FL FL - Yessinia Suarez, 28, & 2 children, Deltona, 22 Oct 2013 #1 *L. Toledo guilty*
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 3h3 hours ago
Investigator Bryan Ford continues testimony this morning in trial against #luistoledo. Ford discussing distances and locations in case
Ford said Toledo's house is 16.3 miles from the Publix in Lake Mary where Suarez's car was found.
Investigator Ford said the gas gauge was at a quarter tank in Toledo's Saturn and no low fuel light was on.
Toledo told deputies that he returned home the morning of Oct. 23, 2013 because he was running out of gas and needed money to gas up car
State now moving Yessenia Suarez's banking records into evidence.
Prosecutor Ryan Will questioning Investigator Ford, who said there were no new cards established or payments by Suarez after Oct. 23, 2013
Oct. 23, 2013 Suarez had an account $2,500 in checking and $3,000 in savings. After Oct. 23, 2013, she had a tax return and a last pay check
After Oct. 23, 2013, the only money deducted from bank account was maintenance and administrative fees by bank
Ford said Suarez & children were listed as missing on nation-wide computer system which would have sent an alert if Suarez or kids turned up
Ford said Suarez and kids have not turned up anywhere or on any computer system, including any passport application
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Investigator Bryan Ford continues testimony this morning in trial against #luistoledo. Ford discussing distances and locations in case
Ford said Toledo's house is 16.3 miles from the Publix in Lake Mary where Suarez's car was found.
Investigator Ford said the gas gauge was at a quarter tank in Toledo's Saturn and no low fuel light was on.
Toledo told deputies that he returned home the morning of Oct. 23, 2013 because he was running out of gas and needed money to gas up car
State now moving Yessenia Suarez's banking records into evidence.
Prosecutor Ryan Will questioning Investigator Ford, who said there were no new cards established or payments by Suarez after Oct. 23, 2013
Oct. 23, 2013 Suarez had an account $2,500 in checking and $3,000 in savings. After Oct. 23, 2013, she had a tax return and a last pay check
After Oct. 23, 2013, the only money deducted from bank account was maintenance and administrative fees by bank
Ford said Suarez & children were listed as missing on nation-wide computer system which would have sent an alert if Suarez or kids turned up
Ford said Suarez and kids have not turned up anywhere or on any computer system, including any passport application
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 3h3 hours ago
Volusia Sheriff's Deputy William Wilson who is now bailiff for Judge Leah Case but was in crime scene investigation in 2013
Wilson was sent to a dumpster behind a Petco store where he foudn at the bottom ma vacuum cleaner, several stuffed animals, a towel, bedding
Deputy Wilson also found an apron put over people who are getting a haircut. Toledo was studying to be a barber until shortly before arrest
Bailiff holding plastic bags full of stuffed animals found in Petco dumpster in front of jurors.
Defense attorney Michael Nappi now questioning the deputy. "It was one of the best smelling dumpster I've ever been in, " Williams said
The dumpster had a lot of boxes from Petco and cedar shavings at bottom
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Volusia Sheriff's Deputy William Wilson who is now bailiff for Judge Leah Case but was in crime scene investigation in 2013
Wilson was sent to a dumpster behind a Petco store where he foudn at the bottom ma vacuum cleaner, several stuffed animals, a towel, bedding
Deputy Wilson also found an apron put over people who are getting a haircut. Toledo was studying to be a barber until shortly before arrest
Bailiff holding plastic bags full of stuffed animals found in Petco dumpster in front of jurors.
Defense attorney Michael Nappi now questioning the deputy. "It was one of the best smelling dumpster I've ever been in, " Williams said
The dumpster had a lot of boxes from Petco and cedar shavings at bottom
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 2h2 hours ago
Anthony Gorgone, who works in biology section at FDLE, is now on stand. He is now one of the supervisors there
DNA expert Gorgone saying it's possible not to find DNA on something, depending on how often you touch something,
Gorgone said picture DNA like a novel about you, says he is only interested in 15 locations to identify people
Gorgone tested three toothbrushes to get DNA profiles on Suarez and her kids, Thalia Otto and Michael Elijah Otto
Court now in recess for 15 minutes
Anthony Gorgone, who works in biology section at FDLE, is now on stand. He is now one of the supervisors there
DNA expert Gorgone saying it's possible not to find DNA on something, depending on how often you touch something,
Gorgone said picture DNA like a novel about you, says he is only interested in 15 locations to identify people
Gorgone tested three toothbrushes to get DNA profiles on Suarez and her kids, Thalia Otto and Michael Elijah Otto
Court now in recess for 15 minutes
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 1h1 hour ago
back in session, Prosecutor Mark Johnson asking Gorgone about swabs from m master closet 1, 2, 3 and 4 in Toledo's house
All four swabs tested positive for blood. master closet 1,2,3 had complete DNA profile for Thalia Otto #luistoledo
On the fourth, master closet four, the blood information was too limited to match to anyone
Johnson now asking about swabs taken from master bathroom
Prosecutor Johnson now questioning Gorgone about 13 swabs found in master bathroom 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,13,14,17,18,19. all positive for blood
DNA expert Gorgone matched Thalia's DNA to 8 swabs in the master bathroom #luistoledo
Another swab also matched Thalia Otto's DNA in the master bathroom. There were also partial matches to her
Gorgone now testifying about two Timberland boots deputies found in dumpster behind apartments.
Investigators say the boots belong to Toledo
The left boot tested positive for blood, DNA expert said Investigators have said that was Thalia's blood #luistoledo
DNA analyst Gorgone said he matched Thalia's DNA to area on the toe of the boot and on the left side of the boot. #luistoledo
He said he also got a complex mixture of DNA on the left boot, which means he could not match that DNA,
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back in session, Prosecutor Mark Johnson asking Gorgone about swabs from m master closet 1, 2, 3 and 4 in Toledo's house
All four swabs tested positive for blood. master closet 1,2,3 had complete DNA profile for Thalia Otto #luistoledo
On the fourth, master closet four, the blood information was too limited to match to anyone
Johnson now asking about swabs taken from master bathroom
Prosecutor Johnson now questioning Gorgone about 13 swabs found in master bathroom 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,13,14,17,18,19. all positive for blood
DNA expert Gorgone matched Thalia's DNA to 8 swabs in the master bathroom #luistoledo
Another swab also matched Thalia Otto's DNA in the master bathroom. There were also partial matches to her
Gorgone now testifying about two Timberland boots deputies found in dumpster behind apartments.
Investigators say the boots belong to Toledo
The left boot tested positive for blood, DNA expert said Investigators have said that was Thalia's blood #luistoledo
DNA analyst Gorgone said he matched Thalia's DNA to area on the toe of the boot and on the left side of the boot. #luistoledo
He said he also got a complex mixture of DNA on the left boot, which means he could not match that DNA,
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 1h1 hour ago
Gorgone now speaking about the trunk mat for the Honda Accord, found six areas that tested postive for blood #luistoledo
For areas A, B, and C, could not generate DNA results too diluted or degraded he said. Area D was too limited DNA results
Area D was from at least one male. For area E he was able to generate a mixture of DNA #luistoledo
But for Area E he was able to match a complete profile to Thalia Otto. The rest of DNA was too limited #luistoledo
Area F results were too limited to get DNA results, he said #luistoledo
Gorgone matched DNA on garage door opener to Luis Toledo #luistoledo
Gorgone now testifying about tests on Toledo's knife which he tossed out his car when he saw a deputy at his house #luistoledo
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Gorgone now speaking about the trunk mat for the Honda Accord, found six areas that tested postive for blood #luistoledo
For areas A, B, and C, could not generate DNA results too diluted or degraded he said. Area D was too limited DNA results
Area D was from at least one male. For area E he was able to generate a mixture of DNA #luistoledo
But for Area E he was able to match a complete profile to Thalia Otto. The rest of DNA was too limited #luistoledo
Area F results were too limited to get DNA results, he said #luistoledo
Gorgone matched DNA on garage door opener to Luis Toledo #luistoledo
Gorgone now testifying about tests on Toledo's knife which he tossed out his car when he saw a deputy at his house #luistoledo
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 49m49 minutes ago
DNA expert was able to exclude everyone but Toledo from a T-shirt. A T shirt was found in the dumpster behind the apartments
He found a mixture of DNA on the sweat pants found in dumspter so he could not match to anyone but determined at least one male contributed
He did not find any blood on vacuum cleaner found in another dumpster. He found dirty water inside canister and was negative for blood
He said the canister water smelled like potential cleaning products. Some jurors taking notes as DNA expert testifies
DNA expert said bleach destroys DNA as would other cleaners with detergent #luistoledo
Now Michael Nappi is going to cross examine Gorgone
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DNA expert was able to exclude everyone but Toledo from a T-shirt. A T shirt was found in the dumpster behind the apartments
He found a mixture of DNA on the sweat pants found in dumspter so he could not match to anyone but determined at least one male contributed
He did not find any blood on vacuum cleaner found in another dumpster. He found dirty water inside canister and was negative for blood
He said the canister water smelled like potential cleaning products. Some jurors taking notes as DNA expert testifies
DNA expert said bleach destroys DNA as would other cleaners with detergent #luistoledo
Now Michael Nappi is going to cross examine Gorgone
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 38m38 minutes ago
In response to Nappi, DNA expert said he did not find any blood on the knife. #luistoledo tossed knife from his car. Neighbors found it
Defense attorney Nappi now reading out the swabs that did not find blood, like a swab from a sink trap #luistoledo
Nappi: you could not conclude that Toledo actually wore these boots? DNA expert Gorgone, "No, I could not." #luistoledo
No blood was found on the black T-shirt. He could exclude Toledo's DNA on the T-shirt but he could not include him either #luistoledo
#luistoledo trial is adjourned for lunch. Back at 1:30
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In response to Nappi, DNA expert said he did not find any blood on the knife. #luistoledo tossed knife from his car. Neighbors found it
Defense attorney Nappi now reading out the swabs that did not find blood, like a swab from a sink trap #luistoledo
Nappi: you could not conclude that Toledo actually wore these boots? DNA expert Gorgone, "No, I could not." #luistoledo
No blood was found on the black T-shirt. He could exclude Toledo's DNA on the T-shirt but he could not include him either #luistoledo
#luistoledo trial is adjourned for lunch. Back at 1:30
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Would that Petco dumpster be near Chris LaSanta's house? Maybe he dropped off stuff on his way there? Or is this stuff even relevent? The tweets don't tell me whether anything was positively linked to this case.
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Yes, Kamille, the Petco is near LaSanta's house. They did show a map that included LaSanta's house, the Petco, the Publix and the dumpster at the apts. But that pic wasn't tweeted.
I think he had to have dropped stuff off on his way to LaSanta's, only because he was at the house at 5:30am and knocked on the neighbor's window at about 6:11am. It takes about 16 minutes to drive from the brother's house to Toledo's house (I think), so assuming he spent a few mins talking to his brother, the timing would be close. Of course, it's possible he dropped things at the Petco dumpster after speaking with the brother but the things were buried, tho it could be that dumpster was empty and Petco placed things on top afterward. I believe the Petco dumpster wasn't checked until after noon sometime. So really, I suppose he could have dumped those either before or after talking with the brother. I don't think he dumped those things when the neighbor was along because Jackson never mentioned that dumpster that I know of.
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 1h1 hour ago
Johnson is on redirect as testimony resumes in #luistoledo case. Nappi now on recross
Nappi asks about the black shirt that Toledo could not be included in DNA from shirt, even though he could not be excluded. Gorgone agrees
Mark Johnson then asks Tyshawn Jackson was excluded from the shirt. Gorgone said yes Jackson's DNA was excluded from shirt
Now another FDLE analyst has taken the stand.
DNA analyst says he found a partial DNA profile to Michael Otto in blood on a gauze #luistoledo
DNA analyst said another swab from master bathroom was a partial match to Thalia Otto #luistoledo
Prosecutor Will said earlier they don't believe Michael's blood which was a small amount on a gauze is related to the crime #luistoledo
DNA expert said Thalia could neither be included or excluded from another swab but everyone else, such as Toledo or Jackson were excluded
FDLE analyst said none of the samples he tested contained blood that even partially matched Tyshawn Jackson #luistoledo
Nappi just named three samples from master bath that did not come back as positive for blood. Nappi focusing on bloodless swabs
Swab under latch area failed to indicate blood, Nappi asked. FDLE analyst said it was not tested for blood.
No blood on handle of shovel in garage, Nappi asked? No blood, analyst said
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Has it been determined how they got the DNA sample for Tyshawn Jackson? Did he give it voluntarily?
Johnson is on redirect as testimony resumes in #luistoledo case. Nappi now on recross
Nappi asks about the black shirt that Toledo could not be included in DNA from shirt, even though he could not be excluded. Gorgone agrees
Mark Johnson then asks Tyshawn Jackson was excluded from the shirt. Gorgone said yes Jackson's DNA was excluded from shirt
Now another FDLE analyst has taken the stand.
DNA analyst says he found a partial DNA profile to Michael Otto in blood on a gauze #luistoledo
DNA analyst said another swab from master bathroom was a partial match to Thalia Otto #luistoledo
Prosecutor Will said earlier they don't believe Michael's blood which was a small amount on a gauze is related to the crime #luistoledo
DNA expert said Thalia could neither be included or excluded from another swab but everyone else, such as Toledo or Jackson were excluded
FDLE analyst said none of the samples he tested contained blood that even partially matched Tyshawn Jackson #luistoledo
Nappi just named three samples from master bath that did not come back as positive for blood. Nappi focusing on bloodless swabs
Swab under latch area failed to indicate blood, Nappi asked. FDLE analyst said it was not tested for blood.
No blood on handle of shovel in garage, Nappi asked? No blood, analyst said
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Has it been determined how they got the DNA sample for Tyshawn Jackson? Did he give it voluntarily?
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 29m29 minutes ago
Next witness is Nicole Daniels, a crime scene analyst with Seminole County Sheriff's Office #luistoledo
Daniels was called to check Suarez's vehicle after it was found in the Lake Mary Publix.
Daniels responds to Will saying she did find Suarez's name on several items throughout the Honda Accord
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Next witness is Nicole Daniels, a crime scene analyst with Seminole County Sheriff's Office #luistoledo
Daniels was called to check Suarez's vehicle after it was found in the Lake Mary Publix.
Daniels responds to Will saying she did find Suarez's name on several items throughout the Honda Accord
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Frank Fernandez‏ @frankfff 12m12 minutes ago
Daniels said there was also a sandy impression of a foot on a back floor mat of Suarez's car. #luistoledo
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Daniels said there was also a sandy impression of a foot on a back floor mat of Suarez's car. #luistoledo
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Yes, Kamille, the Petco is near LaSanta's house. They did show a map that included LaSanta's house, the Petco, the Publix and the dumpster at the apts. But that pic wasn't tweeted.
I think he had to have dropped stuff off on his way to LaSanta's, only because he was at the house at 5:30am and knocked on the neighbor's window at about 6:11am. It takes about 16 minutes to drive from the brother's house to Toledo's house (I think), so assuming he spent a few mins talking to his brother, the timing would be close. Of course, it's possible he dropped things at the Petco dumpster after speaking with the brother but the things were buried, tho it could be that dumpster was empty and Petco placed things on top afterward. I believe the Petco dumpster wasn't checked until after noon sometime. So really, I suppose he could have dumped those either before or after talking with the brother. I don't think he dumped those things when the neighbor was along because Jackson never mentioned that dumpster that I know of.
I'll have to wait for the video to upload and see if I can screen grab that map. I'm very interested in the time line between about 1:30am and 5:30am that includes a drop at the dumpster behind Petco. I'm also interested to know if they definitively determined that those items were dumped by LT? :waitasec:
Is the only proof that LT showed up at his brother's house at 5:30am, his brother's word? :thinking:
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