Florida Association of Private Investigators Deplores Reports of Unlicensed Activity

[ExpectingUnicorns]

You are correct, but what he was doing was in an investigative capacity according to FL Law.

You just can't do it and then say i'm not acting in an investigative capacity.

I understand, I think, what the FAPI is trying to do. Even though JH claimed he was working voluntarily for CA and GA and NOT in an investigative capacity ~ we all still think of him as "one of the Anthonys' PIs" don't we? I think that's what FAPI is trying to clear up and prevent from continuing in the future.

 

[whiteangora]

You are correct, but what he was doing was in an investigative capacity according to FL Law.

You just can't do it and then say i'm not acting in an investigative capacity.

Hoover claims he was not hired or paid for any services, investigative or other. Unless someone can prove differently I am shocked with the wrath that is coming his way.
If anyone needs some deep investigating it is Dominic Casey.
This seems like a smear campaign from DC because he is cornered.

 

[Georgia PI]

I understand, I think, what the FAPI is trying to do. Even though JH claimed he was working voluntarily for CA and GA and NOT in an investigative capacity ~ we all still think of him as "one of the Anthonys' PIs" don't we? I think that's what FAPI is trying to clear up and prevent from continuing in the future.

To put it plain and simple, you can not promote yourself as an "Agency" or "Investigator" without the proper licences issued by the State of FL.

The word "voluntarily" means nothing, he was still working as a Private Investigator according to FL law.

But, If you are an investigator who is an actual employee of an Attorney's office, currently there is no license required.

 

[Marina2]

You are correct, but what he was doing was in an investigative capacity according to FL Law.

You just can't do it and then say i'm not acting in an investigative capacity.

Thank you for clarifying. I didn't know that the work he was doing was investigative in nature.

I've run into this dilemma myself a couple of times with my own business. I'm a registered nurse and work for myself. There have been times when parents want me to sit with their child for the evening but not want to pay me the hourly rate I charge. They explain that they just want a sitter for the night, not a registered nurse. Well, the child is on a ventilator, feeding tube, and such so there is no way that I'll not be working as an RN. My license is on the line and I have to follow nursing protocol. They don't understand that I can't just call myself a sitter for the night.

 

[JTennisonFL]

ok I am a dummy..He is listed as an agency too!

Me too:blushing: Does someone have to have a Class A license to own
a private investigation agency and then everyone person employed (and owner) have to have at least a Class C license to work?
thanks.

 

[Georgia PI]

Hoover claims he was not hired or paid for any services, investigative or other. Unless someone can prove differently I am shocked with the wrath that is coming his way.
If anyone needs some deep investigating it is Dominic Casey.
This seems like a smear campaign from DC because he is cornered.

Payment for services in this case is not the issue, acting in the capacity of an Investigator is one of the issue.


Again I reference Florida Statutes, Chapter 49

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/ind...493/PART01.HTM

 

[Georgia PI]

Me too:blushing: Does someone have to have a Class A license to own
a private investigation agency and then everyone person employed (and owner) have to have at least a Class C license to work?
thanks.

Questions:

Does someone have to have a Class A license to own a private investigation agency? YES

Do you have to have at least a Class C license to work? There are several classes that are allowed to work for an Agency, but Yes is the answer. A "C" license can not work without being employed by an "A" license. Just because you have a "C" license you can not offer your services to the public in a investigative capacity.

 

[Jolynna]

I guess either way this goes, two more can be added to list of victims of this case. Although these two did interject themselves and were not innocently and unawarely dragged in as many others were. moo

Because JH came to LE's attention when he was trying to sell the videos of his trip to suburban (instead of taking his videos to LE), I think his motives for volunteering his services to the Anthony's are suspect.

However for whatever reason he got involved, thank heavens P.I. DC called him and he videotaped it.

If he loses his license or is fined because he called attention to himself by getting involved in a high profile case (while breaking rules) guess you get burned when you stick your hands in fire.

IMO

 

[whiteangora]

Another perfect example of the good guy getting the shaft.
He let Dominic Casey's cat out of the bag, told the truth and
exposed DC's shabby character and he is the one being chastised?
:sick::shakehead:

 

[Mendara]

I don't understand why they were looking for an alive Caylee's dead body in the woods.

I don't understand the PI's roles JH or DC - I also don't understand why they were filming it and why LE was excluded.

 

[songline]

Is Dominic not licensed? Geez I'm behind in the characters of this case. Is that what the article means?

He is licensed but the way I understand it he has a Level "C" license and that means that he must be affiliated with a level "A" meaning he has to work for an agency and not privately on his own.

IT IS THE SAME as Real Estate. First level is sales agent license the next level is broker license and then if you want to hire people to have to be licensed as an agency.

 

[JTennisonFL]

:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

Questions:

Does someone have to have a Class A license to own a private investigation agency? YES

Do you have to have at least a Class C license to work? There are several classes that are allowed to work for an Agency, but Yes is the answer. A "C" license can not work without being employed by an "A" license. Just because you have a "C" license you can not offer your services to the public in a investigative capacity.

Thank you; now I understand. I noticed in JH's deposition he stated many times he was volunteering his services as a "bodyguard", more or less. Did he run afoul of the law when he helped DC in the woods? The reason I asked is because I have a family member who has a black belt in a martial art and has offered his services (free of charge) to protect someone. So where did JH cross the line?

 

[Georgia PI]

Another perfect example of the good guy getting the shaft.
He let Dominic Casey's cat out of the bag, told the truth and
exposed DC's shabby character and he is the one being chastised?
:sick::shakehead:

If he would have just said in the deposition that he was along just as a friend and happened to video it, I don't think it would be much of an issue.

PI's get enough bad press, we don't need things like this to keep happening, he was also a fool for not having an attorney present at the deposition.

 

[Georgia PI]

:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

Thank you; now I understand. I noticed in JH's deposition he stated many times he was volunteering his services as a "bodyguard", more or less. Did he run afoul of the law when he helped DC in the woods? The reason I asked is because I have a family member who has a black belt in a martial art and has offered his services (free of charge) to protect someone. So where did JH cross the line?

That's a good question, I have not lived in FL for a while now. I will have to see if bodyguards fall under the Security licensing laws in fl. If I was him I would check to make sure. The problem is if he hurts someone he could get sued.

 

[songline]

I don't understand why they were looking for an alive Caylee's dead body in the woods.

I don't understand the PI's roles JH or DC - I also don't understand why they were filming it and why LE was excluded.

Th "A" family knew something, or else why did anyone go there in the first place?

 

[songline]

I must admit it did strike me as a bit odd when DCasey told JH we are going to go find Caylee.He knew and he wanted on tape.Payday!This whole thing had just gotten way bigger than any one thought it ever would.We best get our piece of that pie.....

Dont some agencys send investigators out to do some of the work and the agency holds the licence?

That is the operative word, an agency would have had to be holding his license. He worked for GA on his own.
Called himself a body guard but did investigative work.

 

[Georgia PI]

I must admit it did strike me as a bit odd when DCasey told JH we are going to go find Caylee.He knew and he wanted on tape.Payday!This whole thing had just gotten way bigger than any one thought it ever would.We best get our piece of that pie.....

Dont some agencys send investigators out to do some of the work and the agency holds the licence?

Short answer, Basically yes. The agency holder is responsible for the agencies actions and all of it's employees.

 

[whiteangora]

Hopefully in the end, justice will be served and
DOMINIC CASEY will be put behind bars where he belongs.

 

[Georgia PI]

Hopefully in the end, justice will be served and
DOMINIC CASEY will be put behind bars where he belongs.

Some people have too big of an ego and want to make a name for themselves by working on a large profile case and be plastered all over the TV and Newspaper.

I try to stay under the radar, off TV and out of the News papers. It allows me to sit right next to you at your sons baseball game and you have no idea who I really am or what I am doing, but I will know most everything about you when I leave.

 

[Georgia PI]

so if any one can be an investigator but we can all hope that if they are investigating you,so this guy DCasey is now on the Haliegh case will he be
now subjected to a little more scruitiny on this case or is he just another guy with a find so to speak under his belt?

Not sure what your question is, but DC has found nothing in the Caylee Anthony case and after seeing all the bad publicity on him, I for one would not hire him to watch my dog.

Even if I work for someone free of charge I have a contract signed stating free of charge, I bet most of the people saying that they are working for these families free don't have the first piece of paper saying that.