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This dude has a pretty obvious agenda. I hope he doesn’t think that will translate to votes. The mature population saw right thru his words and acted on their own. Businesses saw right thru his words and acted on their own.

Florida's governor is ready to declare victory as state's virus outlook remains unclear
Florida reopening: DeSantis is ready to declare victory but the coronavirus picture is still unclear - CNNPolitics

I wouldn't buy a used car from this guy. Forget about voting for him. And I throw Marco Rubio in the same class, ever since I saw him "buddy buddy" with Carnival cruiseline, and all over the other cruise companies with VP Pence.

Sure, you could say that the meeting was for planning what to do with American Citizens on their ships...but they BOTH went to the cruise line companies in Miami...

Not political. But they just seemed too chummy with a group of companies that don't employ a lot of American citizens or register their ships in the United States. Read what is below, and try not to choke.

Remarks by Vice President Pence in a Coronavirus Briefing with Cruise Line Executives and Port Directors | Ft. Lauderdale, FL | The White House
 
This dude has a pretty obvious agenda. I hope he doesn’t think that will translate to votes. The mature population saw right thru his words and acted on their own. Businesses saw right thru his words and acted on their own.

Florida's governor is ready to declare victory as state's virus outlook remains unclear
Florida reopening: DeSantis is ready to declare victory but the coronavirus picture is still unclear - CNNPolitics
Just keep patting yourself on your back Ronnie...we know better.

Urghh...It’s almost like he’s rubbing that “magic genie” bottle hoping for the best...thing is, this is real life.
 
I think, the game plan is to reopen the counties that have the fewest numbers. We are in phase one, which means the 25% rule for restaurants and retail. We still have the masks and 6ft apart and no bars, gyms, salons, or social gatherings of more than 10. Our county had less than 100 cases, 5 deaths and of the 96 sick, all but 1 is recovered. So we have one person who is still recovering. Not too bad. I know there are most likely people here that have the virus but no symptoms but are passing it, so the mask and gloves and washing and had sanitizer and 6ft distance should be okay. I am back at the office and hoping for the best.
 
I think, the game plan is to reopen the counties that have the fewest numbers. We are in phase one, which means the 25% rule for restaurants and retail. We still have the masks and 6ft apart and no bars, gyms, salons, or social gatherings of more than 10. Our county had less than 100 cases, 5 deaths and of the 96 sick, all but 1 is recovered. So we have one person who is still recovering. Not too bad. I know there are most likely people here that have the virus but no symptoms but are passing it, so the mask and gloves and washing and had sanitizer and 6ft distance should be okay. I am back at the office and hoping for the best.
Good luck back at the office, hope all goes well.

We are also in phase one, same as you with over 1,400 cases and counting. Sounds like salons may be opening this week, maybe other places too.
 
Florida has a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 67 per 1 million people and New York has a per capita death rate from Covid-19 of 1,256 per 1 million people.

I know which state I would feel safer living in.
One major reason is the living environment in these states. In FL people are much more spread out. Although there are apartments/condos, it is nothing like the environment in NY where there are literally large high rise apartments one after another closely together. I am very aware of these living arrangements as I lived many years like that in NY and now in Fl. It’s like comparing apples to a piece of cardboard....totally different.

NY depends on mass transit, FL has none really...we use cars here with the exception of some buses.

There are others.
 
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I don't claim to know much about politics or politicians, but I know which state I would feel safer living in — by a ratio of 18 to 1.
 
Sure, small shop, but she may see 10 people a day, 50 people a week. If she became infected by one person, how many could she infect?

I have decided to cut my own hair. I used to do that years ago. Lots of YouTube videos.

I also cut my gym membership. I can ride my bike.
Interesting - United Healthcare offers a $20/month reimbursement if you check in to an approved gym, yoga, swim facility etc. I've had my gym membership paid for with this for many years until April. You couldn't really check in as gyms were closed. I checked the Rally app on May 1 and they changed it to include housework, yardwork, playing with your kids/dog, online workouts, etc. I'm glad they recognized that we still are working on our fitness despite places being closed and we will get our reimbursement. I'm undecided about my gym membership - I like the AC when I work out. and if I go 12 times in a month, it's paid for. still deciding. they aren't charging me btw.
JMO
 
One major reason is the living environment in these states. In FL people are much more spread out. Although there are apartments/condos, it is nothing like the environment in NY where there are literally large high rise apartments one after another closely together. I am very aware of these living arrangements as I lived many years like that in NY and now in Fl. It’s like comparing apples to a piece of cardboard....totally different.

NY depends on mass transit, FL has none really...we use cars here with the exception of some buses.

There are others.

When I lived in Florida, I took Amtrak every single day to get to work, and transferred to the Metro station.

So, it depends on where you live. It makes sense that Southern Florida has more cases, since Dade county is where the Metro is.
 
Interactive map shows Florida coronavirus cases

ORLANDO, Fla. – An interactive dashboard from the Florida Department of Health shows the growing number of coronavirus, or COVID-19, cases as the state confirms each one.

According to the Department of Health, as of early May 4, there were more than 36,000 confirmed Florida-related cases of COVID-19. The dashboard shows which county has reported cases of COVID-19 and how many test results are pending, as well as how many people have been tested overall for the illness.

Of the Florida cases, 1,379 people have died from the virus, according to health officials.

A heat map shows southeast Florida has the most confirmed cases, according to the Department of Health.

Stay Safe
Phase 1. 5/4/2020
 
We all knew Lawsuites were coming.
Here's one.
Palm Beach bartender sues DeSantis over reopening measure that excludes South Florida

Restaurants and retailers across the state received the governor’s blessing to reopen Monday, as long as they operate at 25% capacity and keep tables six feet apart.

That is, restaurants and retailers outside of South Florida, according to Gov. Ron DeSantis’ executive order, released last Wednesday.

DeSantis’ mandate does not apply to Palm Beach, Broward or Miami-Dade counties, all of which the governor says “have seen the lion’s share of the epidemic.” The three counties make up 60% of the state’s more than 36,000 cases of COVID-19, the highly infectious disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

Debra Henry, a 40-year South Florida restaurant industry veteran, is suing DeSantis over the order, which she calls an unfair attempt to reopen some businesses in the state but not others.

The complaint, filed in federal district court the day the order was released, says the order violates Henry’s constitutional rights, as it “arbitrarily” allows some businesses to remain open. It says the order is “unconstitutional on its face” and will disparately affect some businesses but not others.

Henry’s attorney Cory Strolla said the decision is arbitrary because the county has a high mortality rate but not as high of an infection rate. The county cases make up 9% of cases statewide, while Broward and Miami-Dade make up more than half. However, Palm Beach has 14% of Florida’s COVID-19 deaths.
Strolla said the higher mortality rate exists because the county has a population that skews elderly.

“To pick an imaginary line based on a number of infections is arbitrary. People aren’t dying at a catastrophic rate,” he said. “Yes this is a pandemic, but it’s not the bubonic plague.”

More @link
Stay wise Stay Safe
 
One major reason is the living environment in these states. In FL people are much more spread out. Although there are apartments/condos, it is nothing like the environment in NY where there are literally large high rise apartments one after another closely together. I am very aware of these living arrangements as I lived many years like that in NY and now in Fl. It’s like comparing apples to a piece of cardboard....totally different.

NY depends on mass transit, FL has none really...we use cars here with the exception of some buses.

There are others.


I'm guessing you mean NYC?

I was watching a video of upstate NY last night - and just as a comparison, Clinton County (by Lake Champlain) has a total of 71 lab-confirmed positive COVID-19 cases with 53 recovered and 3 deaths:

http://www.clintonhealth.org/BulletinsPress/PR05042020.pdf

Which is comparable to Highlands County, FL, 87 confirmed cases, 7 deaths:

Florida coronavirus map: Latest COVID-19 cases by county

So I've had the Adirondacks on my mind since last night...
 
We all knew Lawsuites were coming.
Here's one.
Palm Beach bartender sues DeSantis over reopening measure that excludes South Florida

Restaurants and retailers across the state received the governor’s blessing to reopen Monday, as long as they operate at 25% capacity and keep tables six feet apart.

That is, restaurants and retailers outside of South Florida, according to Gov. Ron DeSantis’ executive order, released last Wednesday.

DeSantis’ mandate does not apply to Palm Beach, Broward or Miami-Dade counties, all of which the governor says “have seen the lion’s share of the epidemic.” The three counties make up 60% of the state’s more than 36,000 cases of COVID-19, the highly infectious disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

Debra Henry, a 40-year South Florida restaurant industry veteran, is suing DeSantis over the order, which she calls an unfair attempt to reopen some businesses in the state but not others.

The complaint, filed in federal district court the day the order was released, says the order violates Henry’s constitutional rights, as it “arbitrarily” allows some businesses to remain open. It says the order is “unconstitutional on its face” and will disparately affect some businesses but not others.

Henry’s attorney Cory Strolla said the decision is arbitrary because the county has a high mortality rate but not as high of an infection rate. The county cases make up 9% of cases statewide, while Broward and Miami-Dade make up more than half. However, Palm Beach has 14% of Florida’s COVID-19 deaths.
Strolla said the higher mortality rate exists because the county has a population that skews elderly.

“To pick an imaginary line based on a number of infections is arbitrary. People aren’t dying at a catastrophic rate,” he said. “Yes this is a pandemic, but it’s not the bubonic plague.”

More @link
Stay wise Stay Safe


In a state this size with 21 million people? Where I live, we have over 2,000 people per square mile.

By the time you exclude state and county and city park areas, there is not going to be enough room for everyone to keep that six-foot distance, there just isn't.
 
In a state this size with 21 million people? Where I live, we have over 2,000 people per square mile.

By the time you exclude state and county and city park areas, there is not going to be enough room for everyone to keep that six-foot distance, there just isn't.
I agree. I went to Publix and, not realizing there were directional arrows on the floor, I know I walked too close to a few people. I backed off when I realized it. A grocery store aisle can only have 4-5 people in it at a time with 6’ between them. There was too many people in some aisles to do that. No one was policing that plus there were stock people filling the shelves.
 
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