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ETA: 3pm 10/23/2009 The body of Elizabeth Olten has been recovered. LE has a juvenile ' POI ' in custody.


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Another little girl missing. Elizabeth Olten 9 years old.
Last seen leaving a friend's house 1/2 mile from home @ 6:15 pm on 10/21/0 Missing from St. Martins Missouri. Mom called police @ 7:00pm

http://www.kmiz.com/news/story.php?id=15293

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569073,00.html

http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/827875.html



ETA/Fifth
NEED DATE OF BIRTH
 

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ETA: 3pm 10/23/2009 The body of Elizabeth Olten has been recovered. LE has a juvenile ' POI ' in custody.


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Elizabeth is nine years old. She went missing from St. Martins, MO last night while walking home ALONE from a friend's house.

She was last seen at 1815 last night (10-21) as she walked home (four houses away but on a very busy rural road)

LE was called/reported missing at 1900

She does not have an amber alert. She does not have an NCMEC poster yet.. so unfortunately I have no dob yet to post with this. The sheriff has been quoted in media as saying an amber alert may be issued this afternoon and I am also SEARCHING for the dob....

LE had a presser at nine am and said that she had a cell phone on her and it last pinged deep in the woods near her home. It has since stopped pinging (they think battery died). Early reports said she was not a runaway and was scared of the woods.

the command center is set up at xtreme body near her home... here is a map of general area...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...598,-92.323415&spn=0.007582,0.019205&t=h&z=16

I will update this with a bdate as soon as possible

http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2009/10/22/breaking_news/doc4ae083b2bc475853940788.txt

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=366189

http://www.helpfindmychild.net/elizabeth-olten
 
This is the place where you request Astrological help regarding a crime you may be investigating.

Remember to include details:

date/time/place of Last Seen, date/time/place of Police Report, birth information on key players in the case including the Victim; etc.
Requests should also include a link if applicable, to the thread where the case is being discussed.


Our House Astrologers will review the Forensic Astrology Request Thread at regular intervals and, time permitting, respond to Reader requests.

THANKYOU~

How far back can you go and research a crime? I have worked on the murders of Michael, Mary and Jennifer Short since it happened in 2002. It still remains unsolved. I have tried to keep the thread on WS updated frequently, but unfortunately, lots of the links no longer work. To read about the case on WS, you probaby should start at this page: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11660&highlight=jennifer+short&page=6

Also, would you need all of the info above: date/time/place of Last Seen, date/time/place of Police Report, birth information on key players. Some of it might be hard to find now, but I can give it my best shot. I'm new to reading this particular thread, so forgive me if I'm asking old questions :(

TIA!
 
How far back in time does not matter when casting an Event chart based on 'confirmed' dates and times as to when the party(s) were LAST SEEN, LAST COMMUNICATED with, date & time of Police report or 911 call.
We also need the birhtdates of all missing persons as well.


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All these cases are IMPORTANT and worthy of attention. Our hearts go out to the families of the missing persons and victims.

As you (anyone reading this) may have noticed, our energy goes first to the most current crimes in an effort to provide forensic clues in resolving the mystery as quickly as possible. When we have breathing room, we then look at the older cases and place those charts in our Case Briefings thread. A notice regarding Chart findings will be added to the respective inquiring post at that time.

Currently, we are SWAMPED with requests therefore we cannot promise if and when we can approach the multitude of inquiries brought to us.

We're doing the best we can with the available free time we have from our own family and job responsibilities.

We thank you for understanding.

FifthEssence
 

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ETA: 3pm 10/23/2009 The body of Elizabeth Olten has been recovered. LE has a juvenile ' POI ' in custody.


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Elizabeth is nine years old. She went missing from St. Martins, MO last night while walking home ALONE from a friend's house.

She was last seen at 1815 last night (10-21) as she walked home (four houses away but on a very busy rural road)

LE was called/reported missing at 1900

She does not have an amber alert. She does not have an NCMEC poster yet.. so unfortunately I have no dob yet to post with this. The sheriff has been quoted in media as saying an amber alert may be issued this afternoon and I am also SEARCHING for the dob....

LE had a presser at nine am and said that she had a cell phone on her and it last pinged deep in the woods near her home. It has since stopped pinging (they think battery died). Early reports said she was not a runaway and was scared of the woods.

the command center is set up at xtreme body near her home... here is a map of general area...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...598,-92.323415&spn=0.007582,0.019205&t=h&z=16

I will update this with a bdate as soon as possible

http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2009/10/22/breaking_news/doc4ae083b2bc475853940788.txt

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=366189

http://www.helpfindmychild.net/elizabeth-olten

NCMEC poster DOB: 12/15/1999

http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/se...en_US&orgPrefix=NCMC&caseNum=1133894&seqNum=1
 

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ETA: 3pm 10/23/2009 The body of Elizabeth Olten has been recovered. LE has a juvenile ' POI ' in custody.


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jnTexas found the NCMEC link.Thank you. I've taken a screen shot of the poster and resized it...posting to see it without having to go to the link...makes it easier on our Astros. Again, thank you. :blowkiss:

eoncmec.jpg
 

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ETA: 3pm 10/23/2009 The body of Elizabeth Olten has been recovered. LE has a juvenile ' POI ' in custody.


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Elizabeth is nine years old. She went missing from St. Martins, MO last night while walking home ALONE from a friend's house.

She was last seen at 1815 last night (10-21) as she walked home (four houses away but on a very busy rural road)

LE was called/reported missing at 1900

She does not have an amber alert. She does not have an NCMEC poster yet.. so unfortunately I have no dob yet to post with this. The sheriff has been quoted in media as saying an amber alert may be issued this afternoon and I am also SEARCHING for the dob....

LE had a presser at nine am and said that she had a cell phone on her and it last pinged deep in the woods near her home. It has since stopped pinging (they think battery died). Early reports said she was not a runaway and was scared of the woods.

the command center is set up at xtreme body near her home... here is a map of general area...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...598,-92.323415&spn=0.007582,0.019205&t=h&z=16

I will update this with a bdate as soon as possible

http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2009/10/22/breaking_news/doc4ae083b2bc475853940788.txt

http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=366189

http://www.helpfindmychild.net/elizabeth-olten
They are back out searching this morning. They have a chopper in the air and specific ground searches. I am very worried about this little girl.
 
They are back out searching this morning. They have a chopper in the air and specific ground searches. I am very worried about this little girl.

Me too Nurse. Someone posted in the thread there is a frost warning tonight. This baby needs to be found.


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ETA: 3pm 10/23/2009 The body of Elizabeth Olten has been recovered. LE has a juvenile ' POI ' in custody.


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Go away Wobble MOON!!
 
Respectfully requesting a chart for Misty Carter.

Misty Lynn Carter; DOB 11-9-87; Place of Birth - Hendersonville, NC


The body of the 21-year-old North Henderson High School graduate was found near mile post 395 by Glenn Gap at 6:30 a.m. Monday (10/19/09), said Lt. Ross Dillingham of the Buncombe County Sheriff's Office. Police are investigating her death as a homicide, the first of the year for the county. Carter was six weeks pregnant and was unclothed when a driver saw her on the side of the Parkway.
http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/...uns-loved-ones

The death of a woman whose body was found along the Blue Ridge Parkway on Monday in Buncombe County is being investigated as a homicide, and detectives are trying to piece together how a 21-year-old pregnant woman from Henderson County ended up on the scenic roadway. Jerry Knaus, of Fairview, discovered Carter on Monday as he drove along the Parkway headed for a hike. "I was driving to Mount Pisgah," he said. "About a mile or two from Brevard Road, I saw a body lying off the road near a pull-off." Knaus said the woman was visible from his car. "It was still dark outside, but the closer I got, I realized it was a person. She was dead and naked." Knaus said he ran to find another car because he didn't have a cell phone. "I called 911 and then headed back to the site where the body was until the police arrived," he said. After his discovery, Knaus said he was treated like a suspect for hours.
http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/...d-as-homicide#

Misty Carter's boyfriend, Jermaine Glover, said Wednesday the two had been dating about five months. He said the last time he saw her was Friday night, when she left the house. Carter often spent weekends hanging out with her sister, Crystal Branson, Glover said. Glover said Carter told him last week she was pregnant. He said he learned Tuesday night from Branson that he was not the father; she identified the father as a former boyfriend. Glover said he was interviewed Tuesday by detectives who acted “like I knew that wasn't my baby and she was cheating on me, but I didn't know. “It was a shocker. I don't know what to think.”
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pb...WS01/910220317

A murder victim's mother and sister say they don't know why anyone would kill their loved one and her unborn baby. Crystal Branson says she heard from her sister, Misty Carter last around 11 Sunday (10/18/09) night after spending the weekend together. Crystal says Misty had just found out she was going to have a baby. She said, "Everything was coming together, she had her boyfriend back, she found out she was pregnant, she got a car, everything in her life was turning around and somebody stole it from her." Crystal called the Buncombe County Sheriff's Office Monday night after hearing a description of the victim found on the Blue Ridge Parkway on the news. She was able to identify her sister by her blue fingernails and tatoo. The sheriff's office is following leads on possible suspects. Misty's autopsy was pushed back to Wednesday morning in Winston Salem. Her cause of death is still unknown.
http://www.wlos.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/wlos_vid_1084.shtml

Link to Misty's thread in Crimes in the News;
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90616"]NC~Misty Carter 21 found Oct 19th roadside on the Blue Ridge Parkway - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


Note to Tuba; The location where Misty's body was discovered was interesting in relation to the possible coordinates for KC. Not related but interesting nevertheless.
Misty Lynn Carter

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Asheville - Misty Lynn Carter, 21, of Mountain Home, went to be with the Lord, Monday, October 19, 2009.
She was preceded in death by her paternal grandparents, Joe and Robenia Carter and her maternal grandfather, Ray Samuel Pace.
She is survived by her father, Bill Carter of Cherokee and her mother, Tammy Rene Pace of Hendersonville; her sister, Crystal Branson of Hendersonville; her brother, Joshua Pace of Inman, S.C.; two nieces, Brianna Rene Carter and Aubrey Faith Barnett; her maternal grandmother and step grandfather, Grace and Jack Williams of Rossville, Georgia.
A memorial service will be held at 12:30 p.m. Saturday, October 24, 2009, at the Chapel In The Pines of Jackson Funeral Service.
The family will receive friends from 11 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. in the chapel.
Condolence cards may be sent to the family at www.jacksonfuneralser vice.com or to P.O. Box 945, Hendersonville, NC 28793.
Published: 2009-10-23
http://obituaries.citizen-times.com...78&PHPSESSID=32457c03da64245177ef3c0bf1f81ac5
 

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LeoMoon has posted a chart in the CASE BRIEFINGS thread.

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~ Jessica Edith Louise Foster: Born at the Foothills Hospital in Calgary, AB Canada on May 27, 1984 at 11:43 a.m. (7lbs, 14oz, 21")

~ Last spoke to her older sister, Crystal on March 28, 2006 by phone, Jessie was at her house at 1009 Cornerstone Place, North Las Vegas, NV USA 89031 & Crystal was at her work, she worked for a camp in the kitchen for an oil rig and was gone weeks at a time, they were planning a trip in the next few days where they were going to meet here at my home in Kamloops and drive together in Jessie's car (still parked in my backyard to this day) to Calgary for their stepsister's wedding reception - Jessie's insurance card even came to my home in the postal mail a few days after that. The last call was placed at about 11:00 p.m. (the message left on her dad & stepmom's voicemail was March 27, the day before - and I would have to check the time).

~ Peter Bertrand Todd (has a twin brother, James Andrew Todd - father: Bertrand Todd, son: Seth) ~ birthday: June 30, 1966
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There have been thoughts that perhaps Jessie was the victim of the truck driver / highway / serial killer scenarios that the FBI is working on, but there is one huge point that was overlooked when this was discussed: "If Jessie was kidnapped and murdered by a truck driver, where did her belongings go? Jessie had all her things packed because she was planning on coming home to Canada when she mysteriously vanished - all of her belongings went missing with Jessie, except her hairdryer and makeup, which was left in the bathroom of her home. Did the truck driver go to Jessie's house in North Las Vegas and take her things (not likely)? Or did the actual person who kidnapped her (possibly her 'fiance' Peter Todd, who she was living with at the time of her disappearance) take her PACKED belongings with her...because everything was packed and easy to take – but forgetting she had a few personal belongings in the bathroom?" Jessie has been missing from Las Vegas, NV for over 3-½ years (since March 29, 2006).
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REWARD: $50,000 to the person who helps us find Jessie
WEBSITE: http://jessiefoster.ca
FORUM: http://findjessie.com
BLOG: http://jessiefoster.blogspot.com
TWITTER: http://twitter.com/MissingJessie
AMERICA'S MOST WANTED: http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/brief.cfm?id=60803
ABC NIGHTLINE: Hunting Humans on the Highways: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=7582591
2009 TRAFFICKING IN PERSONS REPORT: http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2009/index.htm
JESSIE’S POSTERS in 12 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7986&id=1643822787&l=e0786b6f4b
 
Before I bring something "insignificant" here, I want to ask a question. I have a case where a child with a very troubled past and history of telling untruths is claiming someone sexually abused her at the age of 2. The POI denies it, and the child changes her story. Is there any way to do a chart on these two people to see if any of the "signs" are there? It is not a websleuths case.
I apologize if this is considered a personal request and will consult someone on the internet somewhere.
Thanks for letting me know when you can...love what all of you do.
 
Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: February 10, 1981 from Cedaredge, Colorado
Classification: Non-Family Abduction
Date Of Birth: March 11, 1963
Age: 17 years old
Height and Weight: 5'11 - 6'0, 145 - 150 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian male. Dark blond hair, blue eyes. Ellison wears size 13 shoes.
Clothing/Jewelry Description: A blue t-shirt, jeans, white socks, brown shoes and a blue parka

Details of Disappearance - Last seen 8:30 a.m February 10, 1981

Ellison was a student at Cedaredge High School, south of Cedaredge, Colorado on Highway 65, on February 10, 1981. He rode the bus to school as usual that day and the boy who shared his locker saw him place his books inside it at 8:30 a.m. Ellison did not attend classes that day and has not been heard from again. His mother told investigators her son carried only a backpack of school books and his wallet, with his driver's license and three dollars in cash, when he was last seen. He left behind all his clothing, his car, his motorcycle, his skis, and money in his bank account.
Authorities suspect foul play was involved in Ellison's disappearance; they believe he was killed shortly after he vanished, probably by someone he knew. He was a popular straight-A student, and he had already been accepted at Western State College in Gunnison, Colorado and had selected a dormitory room. He was also an avid skier who was looking forward to an upcoming ski race scheduled for the weekend after he vanished. His family reported he had been acting oddly in the month prior to his disappearance and appeared to be preoccupied, but he has no history of runaway behavior and his parents never believed he ran away from home.

One of Ellison's teachers, John Pash, is considered a person of interest in his disappearance. He taught social studies and coached wrestling at Cedaredge High School. After Ellison's disappearance, Pash went to Ellison's mother and told her son had a lot of personal problems and was suicidal. None of Ellison's loved ones believe this; his coach said he was in good spirits before he disappeared and would never have taken his own life. Ellison did visit Pash's home on a regular basis to turn in his homework. It was right next to Cedaredge High School. In 1994, a former classmate of Ellison's said his body might be buried at the house where Pash lived in 1981. Pash had sold it in 1984 and moved away. Authorities searched the house with ground-penetrating radar and saw some anomalies, including two under the concrete garage floor, but they decided not to dig.

Ellison's case remains unsolved. Both of his parents are now deceased.




[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69489"]CO-Roger Ellison 1981 VANISHED FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND POSSIBLE MATCH - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

http://findrogerellison.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/more-from-john-pash/
 
Before I bring something "insignificant" here, I want to ask a question. I have a case where a child with a very troubled past and history of telling untruths is claiming someone sexually abused her at the age of 2. The POI denies it, and the child changes her story. Is there any way to do a chart on these two people to see if any of the "signs" are there? It is not a websleuths case.
I apologize if this is considered a personal request and will consult someone on the internet somewhere.
Thanks for letting me know when you can...love what all of you do.

Your concern for this troubled child is understandable.

Unfortunately, we are overwhelmed w/case requests regarding both current and older crimes/missing persons. I'm so sorry to say, we do not have the free time necessary to take a look at her chart.

You might go to this link where qualified 'professional' astrologers can be found.
The American Federation of Astrologers
http://www.astrologers.com/



I trust her family and those concerned have seeked the help of professionals who deal with these issues.

Thank you for your understanding.
 
I don't know if charts have ever been done on any of these girls.

Teresa Melissa Dean. Sept. 20, 1987 dob. Missing Aug. 15, 1999 from Twiggs County, Macon, Georgia.

Shannon Nicole Paulk. May 8, 1990 dob. Missing August 16, 2001 from Candlestick Trailer Park.

Heaven LaShae Ross. June 11, 1992 dob. Missing August 19, 2003 from Northport, Alabama.

Late 2006 a body was found in an abandoned house in Alabama. Evidence points to Heaven Ross. Shannon Paulk's body was found in the woods a few months after she disappeared.

All the girls were 11, from trailer parks, youngest daughters, outgoing and social. Wilderness refuges and construction sites near them. Disappeared within days of each other exactly 2 years apart. Anniversary killer? No missing girls in August of 2005.

Are these 3 girls connected?
 
Hi Everyone and To our wonderful Astros here.

Could someone direct me to the link for Elizabeth Olten's chart if one has been done. I can't seem to find it. Also, as I am sure all of you know she has been found murdered and 15 y/o female in custody. According to some of the reports/posts by those close by this was a savage and brutal act. Some are even saying a "thrill kill" so I am wondering if we need to do a chart on the suspect as well.

I just want to tell all of you astros and fellow posters and angel how very much you all are appreciated in the work you do here. Everytime I read here (which is the first place I read) I continue to be amazed and in awe of all hard work, talent, knowledge, and true compassion that each of you have for all the missing as well as humankind in general. Much kudos ,love, praise and thank you to all...jmo

sweets
 
Hi Again All. I am looking for the suspects DOB SS but I also found this and thought it and the link might be helpful info when you all get time to check on the charts in this case. I know all of you are swamped right now. It seems like we have "Open Season"on hunting and harming our kids instead of the routine wildlife Hunting Seasons.
(*** Note*** I am not saying I agree with the hunting of animals/wildlife but some do and it is done legally at least). Any way this is JMO..sweets

[ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4361377#post4361377"]MO-Elizabeth Olten - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
Name: Elizabeth Olten
Case Type: Endangered Missing
Missing Date: Wednesday 21st October 2009
Missing From: St Martins Missouri
Missing Country: USA
Sex: Female
DOB: Currently unknown Elizabeth Olten
Specific Details:
Hair: Long Brown Eye Color: Brown
Height: 5'2" Weight: 108lbs
Race: n/a language: n/a
 
OK not sure if this is the place to post this but this info could also be r/t Elizabeth O.'s murder. The suspect A.B. teacher committed sucide after E.O.'s body was found. I think around Monday AM. Anyway the link might be that The teacher Bill C. was a journalism teacher and I am wondering if it may have been some of AB's writings that BC turned over to the sheriff that may have led them to AB in the beginning. I hope I am making sense. JMO. sweets
http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2009/10/29/news_local/063local11currie09.txt

As far as publishing her thoughts and compulsions, it is odd that her high school journalism teacher committed suicide on Monday. According to the local paper Sherriff Greg White was the last person to talk to him?
the full story is in the e-Edition (paid subscription)

Cole County Sheriff Greg While once was a school resource officer at the high school - and was the last person to talk with Currie before he died Monday.

maybe the teacher was the one who turned in some pieces of writing the suspect wrote? are we sure that the written evidence came from a diary?
 
OK not sure if this is the place to post this but this info could also be r/t Elizabeth O.'s murder. The suspect A.B. teacher committed sucide after E.O.'s body was found. I think around Monday AM. Anyway the link might be that The teacher Bill C. was a journalism teacher and I am wondering if it may have been some of AB's writings that BC turned over to the sheriff that may have led them to AB in the beginning. I hope I am making sense. JMO. sweets
http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2009/10/29/news_local/063local11currie09.txt
As far as publishing her thoughts and compulsions, it is odd that her high school
journalism teacher committed suicide on Monday. According to the local paper Sherriff Greg White was the last person to talk to him?
the full story is in the e-Edition (paid subscription)
Cole County Sheriff Greg While once was a school resource officer at the high school - and was the last person to talk with Currie before he died Monday.

maybe the teacher was the one who turned in some pieces of writing the suspect wrote? are we sure that the written evidence came from a diary?



Our prayers go out to the family of the Teacher as well. At this point, him being so upset about the crime resulting in a suicide, is something only LE can confirm. For the time being, it is speculation.

ETA:10/31/09: LE has the party responsible for this crime. We will move on to other UNSOLVED cases.
 
OK not sure if this is the place to post this but this info could also be r/t Elizabeth O.'s murder. The suspect A.B. teacher committed sucide after E.O.'s body was found. I think around Monday AM. Anyway the link might be that The teacher Bill C. was a journalism teacher and I am wondering if it may have been some of AB's writings that BC turned over to the sheriff that may have led them to AB in the beginning. I hope I am making sense. JMO. sweets

http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2009/10/29/news_local/063local11currie09.txt

As far as publishing her thoughts and compulsions, it is odd that her high school journalism teacher committed suicide on Monday. According to the local paper Sherriff Greg White was the last person to talk to him?

the full story is in the e-Edition (paid subscription)

Cole County Sheriff Greg While once was a school resource officer at the high school - and was the last person to talk with Currie before he died Monday.

maybe the teacher was the one who turned in some pieces of writing the suspect wrote? are we sure that the written evidence came from a diary?
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Whatever the reason was for 'allegedly' ending his own life,
I am sure he will be missed.
The article seems to portray that, that he was a gifted teacher.
We do not know what factors may have come into play.
 
I'd recently provided Billy Smolinski's information as his mother had requested a chart on his disappearance. I'm asking for your help in getting a bill passed that's in the house of representatives right now that she's worked tirelessly on and that, if enough people don't enter their info on the page for it...it will not get passed. It's to close gaps in the systems that help to investigate and find missing and unidentifieds. Please take a look and enter your support. It takes less than a minute. Thank you in advance.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4367422&postcount=1"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Families of the Missing Need Ur Help Now: Support HR 3695![/ame]
 
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