Hi Lovejac,
The concept of Natal Promise is just that -- promise, or potential. No one really knows how it may manifest, only that particular events/ circumstances/ conditions cannot manifest if there is no natal promise. In Caylee's chart, there is the POTENTIAL (natal promise) of harm through, from or by the Mother. Something triggered or set off that natal configuration -- progressions, transits, lunations --- something. Maybe Neptunian can comment on what she sees.
It doesn't help that there are several very troubling interaspects between Caylee's chart and Casey's chart. Even without having a timed birth chart for Casey, there are contacts between the two charts that would be there no matter what time of day Casey was born and they appear sinister, to say the least.
IF Caylee is found alive --- and nothing would make me happier for her to be found alive and well --- any trauma she may have suffered from the person/people who would have had her would be shown in her chart somewhat differently. For example, if a FRIEND of Casey's had her, we would have to determine which planet rules the mother and count 11 houses to find the planet that would signify the friend of the mother, and then look at those aspects.
One thing is for certain in my mind: IF Caylee were to be found alive and well and returned to the mother, and IF the State deemed that Caylee should go back to her mother --- well, I shudder to think what might eventually happen to the poor child, based on the disturbing interaspects between Casey's and Caylee's natal charts....
Thanks,
Soulscape
Hi,
Sorry I haven't been here more - school is starting. Even for me! (Lots of science this semester, yay
Soulscape, I noticed at the beginning that Casey and Caylee have discord in their relationship. Besides hard angles between their planets, basic sign energy is off. Caylee: Leo Sun, Libra Moon, Leo rise. Fire and Air. Casey: Pisces Sun, Cancer Moon. Lots of Water. I read last night that when pregnant, Casey did not want to keep Caylee. Also, she allegedly denied the pregnancy for a long time -according to her uncle. I haven't looked closely at their synastry chart, but did note the closest aspects between the two were harsh. For those who are new to astrology, most families share compatible signs and aspects. It's almost uncanny to see how these repeat throughout generations in families.
Anyway, what Soulscape has written about natal promise is VERY important. No event unless it is promised. The combination of Venus Mars and Pluto in Caylee's horoscope, all in hard angles is a serious one. Mars and Venus are the essence of male and female - so we have these combining in a harsh way. Add Pluto's force to it, and I would watch carefully for (I hate to say it) - sexual assault. I haven't been able, really, to bring myself to write about it, as this is a worst case scenario. Caylee's Mars(Taurus) and Venus(Virgo) by sign are debilitated. Which means that the planets are uneasy - have difficulty expressing themselves properly or in a healthy way. Mars is in Venus's sign. Venus is in Mercury's. This weakens them, and is yet another testimony of this energy manifesting in a difficult way. Another thing I noticed is that 12 HS Saturn (debilitated in Leo) is square Mars in this chart, so is connected to this planetary combination. More bad news. I have seen this (Mars, Saturn, Pluto - 12th house connections) in at least three physical abuse situations. The cases I am talking about involved blunt trauma, bruises. Anyway, I don't want to frighten anyone with all of this. Many, many people have these combinations in their charts - and things don't work out badly. This energy gets used in different ways - one way could be employment a sex crime investigator, etc.. SO MUCH depends on what the environment is, and how the person chooses to use the energy. With children - they depend on us to keep them safe - there isn't choice yet
Moon (mother) is connected as well to Caylee's Ven-Mar-Pluto configuration. Moon is in quincunx aspect to Mars in her chart. Quincunx is a difficult aspect, it means that something must be adjusted - but it is difficult to put your finger on this. Crisis and transformation is also connected with the quincunx. Perhaps the other astrologers can explain it better - I have trouble with this aspect, personally.
Around the time of Caylee's disappearance, this natal promise was "activated" by transitting Uranus (sudden events). Uranus moves slowly, and was squaring (challenging) Pluto (force), also was semisquare Mars(violence). Transitting Uranus was also quincunx prog. Asc., from Caylee's 8th house. Also, transitting Mars, the trigger, moved to conjunct Caylee's progressed Sun (life force) and Ascendant (body, immediate environment) and to trine natal Pluto - which, again is activating that natal promise. I fear there might have been a sudden struggle, and if so, Caylee fought. I have seen hard Venus - Pluto connections in the charts of very strong women, the sad thing is, usually bad circumstances are what brings out this strenght. Last thing I see is transitting Neptune opposite Caylee's progressed Asc. which is clouding this situation.
All of these hard transits occurred against the backdrop of uneasy progressions in Caylee's chart that I already described
It was an extremely difficult time for Caylee, and the transits didn't help.
Well, Ive gone on and on again - repeating myself and what the others have written, so I'll stop. I just keep looking and looking for something that is more positive, more helpful than this, but cannot find it. The washed knife (Mars Neptune) in the car is alarming.
