thank you DreamWeaver .. thought I did that map right. orlando ex. airport is right. now to find my map. dont know if i saved that one. after she told me I did it wrong. o well do another one. lol
MommaD and Dreamweaver, the pings came from the Orlando INTERNATIONAL Airport, not the Orlando EX Airport (see below link). The direction of the OIA is WEST SOUTH WEST of the Hopespring address.
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Soulscape and MommaD,
I am so sorry.
I too checked and found that channel 9, WFTV, Aug. 14, 2008, said that the pings came from the Orlando INTERNATIONAL airport.
But, Blanchard Park, where the bloggers searched, is 9.8 miles north of the Hopespring address and west of the Orlando Ex. airport.
And, I have a strong feeling about the Orlando Ex. area.
Still, the Orlando INTERNATIONAL airport is 9.6 miles south of Hopespring address.
Thank you both for all the hard work you do,
DreamWeaver
Hi,
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Soulscape, I noticed at the beginning that Casey and Caylee have discord in their relationship. Besides hard angles between their planets, basic sign energy is off. Caylee: Leo Sun, Libra Moon, Leo rise. Fire and Air. Casey: Pisces Sun, Cancer Moon. Lots of Water. I read last night that when pregnant, Casey did not want to keep Caylee. Also, she allegedly denied the pregnancy for a long time -according to her uncle. I haven't looked closely at their synastry chart, but did note the closest aspects between the two were harsh. For those who are new to astrology, most families share compatible signs and aspects. It's almost uncanny to see how these repeat throughout generations in families.
Anyway, what Soulscape has written about natal promise is VERY important. No event unless it is promised. The combination of Venus Mars and Pluto in Caylee's horoscope, all in hard angles is a serious one. Mars and Venus are the essence of male and female - so we have these combining in a harsh way. Add Pluto's force to it, and I would watch carefully for (I hate to say it) - sexual assault. I haven't been able, really, to bring myself to write about it, as this is a worst case scenario. Caylee's Mars(Taurus) and Venus(Virgo) by sign are debilitated. Which means that the planets are uneasy - have difficulty expressing themselves properly or in a healthy way. Mars is in Venus's sign. Venus is in Mercury's. This weakens them, and is yet another testimony of this energy manifesting in a difficult way. Another thing I noticed is that 12 HS Saturn (debilitated in Leo) is square Mars in this chart, so is connected to this planetary combination. More bad news. I have seen this (Mars, Saturn, Pluto - 12th house connections) in at least three physical abuse situations. The cases I am talking about involved blunt trauma, bruises. Anyway, I don't want to frighten anyone with all of this. Many, many people have these combinations in their charts - and things don't work out badly. This energy gets used in different ways - one way could be employment a sex crime investigator, etc.. SO MUCH depends on what the environment is, and how the person chooses to use the energy. With children - they depend on us to keep them safe - there isn't choice yetMoon (mother) is connected as well to Caylee's Ven-Mar-Pluto configuration. Moon is in quincunx aspect to Mars in her chart. Quincunx is a difficult aspect, it means that something must be adjusted - but it is difficult to put your finger on this. Crisis and transformation is also connected with the quincunx.
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Around the time of Caylee's disappearance, this natal promise was "activated" by transitting Uranus (sudden events). Uranus moves slowly, and was squaring (challenging) Pluto (force), also was semisquare Mars(violence). Transitting Uranus was also quincunx prog. Asc., from Caylee's 8th house. Also, transitting Mars, the trigger, moved to conjunct Caylee's progressed Sun (life force) and Ascendant (body, immediate environment) and to trine natal Pluto - which, again is activating that natal promise. I fear there might have been a sudden struggle, and if so, Caylee fought. I have seen hard Venus - Pluto connections in the charts of very strong women, the sad thing is, usually bad circumstances are what brings out this strenght. Last thing I see is transitting Neptune opposite Caylee's progressed Asc. which is clouding this situation.
All of these hard transits occurred against the backdrop of uneasy progressions in Caylee's chart that I already describedIt was an extremely difficult time for Caylee, and the transits didn't help.
... The washed knife (Mars Neptune) in the car is alarming.
Can one of you experts explain to me what something being "promised" means? Thanks!
Neptunian,
I also saw the Venus/Mars/Pluto as possible sexual assault but did not want to mention it. Up to the point of her disappearance, I don't think the child had been assaulted sexually, but in light of the recent revelations of the docdump stating Casey allowed her to be at adult parties where people were drinking/drugging and letting the baby sleep in beds with adults, I could easily see how that aspect might have played out eventually if the poor child hadn't disappeared.
Soulscape
I agree with this, Soulscape, but didn't put it in the description for two reasons.
First was her age. Cindy also seemed to be her primary caregiver, and George has no history.
Second, I assumed it would potentially be a risk factor in her later years, if she didn't find a way to express these energies in a more productive way.
I also worried that it might make folks speculate about things, and we have no concrete proof. But, now? What on earth was Casey thinking, sleeping in bed with her BF and Caylee?
Dear God, I hope not!
Hi Mom of 5, go back & read post #367, The Natal Promise.
thanks,
Soulscape
I am reading the LE interview with Casey at Universal. I am so upset that I think I am going to log for the night, watch Nancy Grace, and cry myself to sleep.
It is so hard to see such evil up close, in writing. It scares me. I can't see for the tears in my eyes. Don't read it if you are sensitive, seriously!
Hi Housemouse,
Well, it certainly looks like you, Nep & me were all on the same page with our hesitation to put our suspicions about the Venus/ Mars/ Pluto hard aspects into print.
I agree with you that it would likely have been a risk factor as she grew up if she was not able to learn how to express those energies in a more productive way. If she hadn't disappeared and Casey would have continued to allow her to sleep in adult beds and attend adult drinking/drugging parties, well, I don't think anyone needs to be an astrologer to see where this might have led....
One thing we'd like to make clear --- and I'm taking the liberty of speaking for Housemouse & Nep as well as myself --- is just because you have a challenging aspect pattern in your chart DOESN'T MEAN it has to manifest in a negative way!!! There are people all over creation with hard aspects and planets in challenging configurations that learn how to apply their energies in healthy, healing, productive, positive ways --- a lot has to do with how you choose to use/ apply the energies. Please don't think if you have a **bad aspects** you are doomed!!
Thanks,
Soulscape
I am so glad you posted this, Soulscape! It needs to be said on every page here, in my opinion.
Everyone has tough aspects, and everyone has these midpoints, sometimes in our natal charts, and sometimes triggered by transits.
Most of us use these in positive ways. I would guess that some reading here have similar aspects, and are using them positively by trying to help find missing people, or those who are unfortunately victims of crime.
Successful surgeons usually have some difficult aspects involving Mars and Saturn, for example. I would assume that those specializing in female surgery also have some Venus and Pluto involvement.
Soulscape or Neptunian if you can my post, I would appreciate it.
Daily I say prayers to give searchers, and LE the knowledge to locate her little body.
Ok, now. Next big question for us to figure out, and I am not sure I know how to do it.
When will Casey be charged?
And when will she actually go to trial for something other than child neglect?
Or, is that just too tough to figure out from her "unknown birth time" natal chart?
I really don't know how to look for this, but will try. When I first posted here, Housemouse told me to be prepared for not ever knowing, (because of Neptune's influence) and I think this is good advice for all of us. I think prayer helps, though.