Forensic Astrology - CAYLEE ANTHONY Reported Missing 7/15/2008: #12

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Tuba -

I have been thinking about the video of Casey's reaction to the remains being found and how the judge will not let it out. I was reading on the RHornsby thread this morning and he mentioned the Billings murder surveillance tapes and how those were not released however the judge allowed the media to view the tapes at the courthouse and then report on what they saw. I wonder if the media would be successful in petitioning the court the same review of the tape in this instance. Not really an astrology question just kind of thinking out loud. Anyone think it has any merit?
 
Tuba did say DC's statements won't be helpful anyway because, well, I guess he's not always forthcoming with facts. I suppose he has his own spin on things, like Cindy. Saw C&G on Today. Poor, poor Caylee. Grandma doesn't seem to remember she was the one who had to call the police when Caylee was missing because the child's mother wouldn't do it! How dare her say there is no evidence against Casey except the 31 days. :eek: Did she forget her own words, "It smells like a dead body has been in the d*mn car"? :furious:
 
I think the idea of news organs gaining access to the tape that was made in the infirmary common room is really good. We the public might have seen that tape by now if the media had submitted the excellent briefs they are capable of. The Sun in II in H. 11 was so powerful and represented their arguments.

I will look into the possibility of that astrologically. Thanks for the suggestion!

Yes, The family version of this crime is warmed over and spoiled cabbage. No MORE!
 
salvarenga said:
Notice of Cancellation of DC's Depo. Timestamped: 12/14, 3:59PM

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/19477476/Notice-of-Cancellation-of-Depo---Dominic-Casey

In case you need the timestamp for a chart.
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It is Linda Drane-Burdick who cancelled the depo. The Notice is dated 12/14/09 following Strickland's suggestion early on in the 12/11/09 hearing last Friday, 'the State can issue an investigative subpoena to question D. Casey and then decide on deposition later.' In a depo, Baez has a right to be present, wherein this subpoena situation, he will not be present and has no say over what questions are asked & what details DC may divulge.
In the end, a depo may not be necessary. Let's wait and see.

B. Hornsby, Defense attny, does an excellent job of explaining how this works, quite informative.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/12/14/casey-anthony-gets-a-reality-check/
Even if Dominic Casey had privileged information that belonged to George and Cindy Anthony, the State could offer use immunity that would allow them to pierce the privilege and ascertain what he knows. If he divulged something that could get him, George, or Cindy into trouble, he (and presumably they, not quite sure) would be immune from prosecution based upon discovery of this information.
 
FifthEssence said:

It is Linda Drane-Burdick who cancelled the depo. The Notice is dated 12/14/09 following Strickland's suggestion early on in the 12/11/09 hearing last Friday, 'the State can issue an investigative subpoena to question D. Casey and then decide on deposition later.' In a depo, Baez has a right to be present, wherein this subpoena situation, he will not be present and has no say over what questions are asked & what details DC may divulge.
In the end, a depo may not be necessary. Let's wait and see.

B. Hornsby, Defense attny, does an excellent job of explaining how this works, quite informative.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/12/14/casey-anthony-gets-a-reality-check/
Even if Dominic Casey had privileged information that belonged to George and Cindy Anthony, the State could offer use immunity that would allow them to pierce the privilege and ascertain what he knows. If he divulged something that could get him, George, or Cindy into trouble, he (and presumably they, not quite sure) would be immune from prosecution based upon discovery of this information.
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Fifth & All,

RH explained the actions made in the court room & now it explains the most likely reason behind LDB's recent motion as well! :winko:

IMO LDB is one smart cookie! :dance: :clap:

Here's the question that was asked & his answer about it from the main forum thread:

Kentjbkent said:
Mr. Hornsby,

I am very confused about the first motion heard this morning concerning Dominic Casey. Can you explain in layman's terms the difference between a deposition and an investigative hearing?

It is my understanding that Baez cannot attend an investigative hearing (if SA serves subpoena), but if Baez places DC on the defense witness list, he will be able to attend??

I am not sure I understand how either scenario will play out?

Thanks
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rhornsby said:
Actually, you have it 100% correct. Even while a criminal prosecution is pending, the State Attorney is free to continue to "investigate" the case just like the defense is.

However, while a defendant cannot compel a "potential" witness to talk to them, the state can. So if the state knows of a "potential" witness, and that witness does not want to voluntarily cooperate, the state can issue an "investigative" subpoena.

If the witness appears pursuant to the investigative subpoena, but knows nothing; the state is not required to list the person as a potential witness. However, if they end up knowing something, then they are required to list the person as a potential witness.

At this point under Florida Rule of Criminal Procedure, the defense is then entitled to question the witness. If the person does not want to "voluntarily cooperate" with the defense, then the defense can subpoena the person for deposition. Because a deposition by definition is an interview by compulsion of court order (subpoena). However, the State has the right to attend the deposition - whereas the defense did not for the investigative subpoena.

On the flip side, if a defendant lists a witness, the State can issue a deposition subpoena, but not an investigative subpoena. The logic being that if the state could subpoena witnesses listed by the defense without the defense present, the State could threaten or intimidate the witness into changing their story - thus the right for the defense to be present.

So if Baez wanted to guaranty his right to be present, he would only need to list DC as a potential witness.
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:angel:
 
Just In!!!

UPDATED: Judge Denies 2 Casey Anthony Defense Motions
Posted: 2:13 pm EST December 16, 2009
Updated: 4:52 pm EST December 16, 2009
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This time, Judge Stan Strickland denied defense motions without any kind of explanation. He refused to drop nine of the charges Casey faces for stealing and cashing her best friend's checks and refused to order the destruction of jail videos, which are public records.

The defense also claims Casey's being treated unfairly, because she faces multiple charges for each check she stole and cashed and wanted the judge to drop nine of them.

&#8220;The less merit a judge finds in a motion, the more likely a judge is just going to deny it without explanation,&#8221; WFTV legal expert Bill Sheaffer said.

&#8220;It's not his job as a trial judge and he's not gonna do it,&#8221; Sheaffer said.

The judge has yet to rule on the death penalty and whether the Anthonys can visit without jail cameras.

JUDGE'S RULING: EquuSearch
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21984253/detail.html

JUDGE'S RULING: Dismiss Counts
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21984251/detail.html

JUDGE'S RULING: Jail Videos
http://www.wftv.com/news/21984353/detail.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21984104/detail.html

:angel:
 
One of the many discomforts we feel with the defense of this prisoner is that the ladder of values is badly constructed, the priorities are askew. What is unimportant is made to seem important and we see reality being distorted. Even in the way Defense sifts discovery, there is no sense of proportion.

I read the entire excerpt from Andrea Lyon's book and the passages about the man wrongfully incarcerated for twenty-six years are a glaring example of distorted values. Lyon held the confession of a client-criminal to her chest while an innocent man languished in jail.

Yes, attorney - client confidentiality is a bond of trust, inviolable unless the lawyer knows a crime will be committed if she does not divulge the private information confided to her. But the State committed crime every day the innocent man was denied the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The State acted unknowingly but an officer of the court, this attorney, did know this offense was perpetrated, hour after hour, day after day, week.....and on for twenty-six years.

Under the 9th Amendment, neither "the Constitution nor the Bill of Rights shall be construed to diminish the just importance of other rights retained by the people" and the right to liberty is pronounced inalienable in our very Declaration of Independence. Confidentiality is a privilege. Liberty is a right. Put privilege up against right in the scales of justice, whose eye is on not only law but principle and guarantees, and right wins every time.

I would argue and would have argued that every day this innocent man suffered confinement was an outrageous offense to the very freedoms upon which the country was founded. Procedure would have required careful observances & navigation but this could have been accomplished as it is everyday in the service of less worthy objectives.

There is a New Moon today in the Sign of jurisprudence and it reminds us of the rights, privileges and values we need to cherish in order to preserve the precious guarantees of citizenry. We must rest on them in every act we perform in the name of law.
 
RH explained today's motions for us in the main forum...bumped it here for reference for everyone!

rhornsby said:
  • The Judge denied the Motion to Dismiss on Double Jeopardy Grounds and the Motion for a Protective Order to Destroy Video of Family Visits.
  • The Judge Granted the State's Motion for a Protective Order as it relates to the recorded statement of Joe Jordan - considering Baez did not object, nor did anyone else, this should not be a real shocker one way or the other.
  • The Judge has not ruled on the Motion to Remove Death Penalty or the Motion for Protective Order as it Relates to Videotaping Baez's visits. Considering he denied the other two motions with one sentence rulings, it is safe to assume he is issuing longer orders on the other two. This makes sense as they are more substantive and involve areas of law that are not clearly defined. I still think he will deny the Death Penalty motion and would not be surprised if he granted Baez some relief as it relates to attorney-client interviews being videotaped.
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:angel:
 
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/Rulingson3MotionsDecember16001.jpg

The Node of the Moon at 22:26 Capricorn is at solstice point of Prisoner's own Saturn & the Sun is at solstice point of her Neptune. Two accents of defeat and the attendant emotions like despair and gloom. The Moon of the chart is void of course: no more aspects while in the Sign Sagittarius. Venus rules the rising Taurus and is combust the Sun, therefore at a low ebb in ability to succeed, the force behind Defense burned up or greatly reduced.

Saturn intercepted in House 6 means considerable effort and time has been put into this case with minimal compensation but disposited by Venus in Sagittarius, much publicity.

Mercury, day ruler, separates from a Mars bi-quintile of talent as it applies to the quincunx. This refers to last weeks argument by J. Ashton and his written supporting documents.
 
Tuba said:
The chart for yesterday's hearing included (with all those 22's) an exact inconjunct between the Moon in House 9 and Uranus in House 2 of the future. That portended sudden, unexpected changes and we saw emoting from Prisoner who is usually composed or stoic. We also saw and heard Jeff Ashton present State's rebuttal to the motion from Andrea Lyon and that was incisive, with shock value.

Because the House of the future was involved in the aspect, we should brace for another sudden unexpected change near the New Moon, December 16. As you may recall that lunation was characterised as dynamite for the prisoner because it falls on her Mars - Uranus conjunction and is square her Mercury with Uranus atop that Mercury. The jack hammer has finally made it through the concrete. Thoughts and ideations we do not see have altered.
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One year ago, Prisoner's aspects were drastic as Mars and a Full Moon approached but this year, even greater impact comes from the presence of Uranus on her Mercury at the New Moon. Particularly, since her Mercury natal is also exactly afflicted by Uranus (and Mars).
 
UPDATED: Judge Denies Motion To Block Videotaping Of Casey
Posted: 4:43 pm EST December 17, 2009
Updated: 5:16 pm EST December 17, 2009
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Judge Stan Strickland denied another defense motion in the case against Casey Anthony Thursday. Judge Strickland said that Casey should not get special treatment in the jail.

The defense wanted the jail to stop videotaping Casey whenever she was meeting with her lawyers or with her family, but the jail videotapes every inmate in those situations so the judge denied the motion.

JUDGE'S ORDER: Denies Video Motion
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21996157/detail.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21995958/detail.html

:angel:
 
Of course we are still waiting on his decision on the DP motion...IMO it will also be denied & will stay as is! I hope he makes a decision before 12:30PM...I have another eye apt. for my chronic eye infections...of all days. I'm thinking that I might just cancel the apt. if he dosen't rule before I have to leave. LOL

On the other hand I'm glad he is taking all the time he needs esp. since KC has had to sit within her 4 walls in jail waiting & wondering. Each day bringing her another denial from JS, a little each day. let her suffer a little at a time...instead of finding out all at once!!! Each night as the walls keep closing in more & more along with more night sweats too.

If that makes any sense what I'm trying to say!!! :biggrin:

As Tuba's chart says: Saturn intercepted in House 6 means considerable effort and time has been put into this case with minimal compensation but disposited by Venus in Sagittarius, much publicity.

She sure is getting minimal compensation this week Tuba! :wink: :clap:

:angel:
 
I have been wondering for some time if working before a computer screen is aggravating your eye conditions, Angel. Does the doctor ever ask about that or talk about that?
 
Tuba,
I asked if working on a PC, reading, watching Tv etc. has anything to do with my eye infections....they said no. It all stems from me having thyroid eye disease & eyelashes that are growing in crooked! The infections are chronic, but have improved with the anti-biotic eye drops I use. They have me coming in every couple of weeks to check on them & they inserted plugs into my eye ducts to help increase my tears. Sorta like a plug in a sink is how they explained it! LOL With less dry eyes that will also help keep the infections at bay as well!

I do take a lot of breaks from the PC to rest my eyes & my neck from the fibromyalgia. Often I'm here sitting, but in my comfy chair watching TV at the same time going back & forth though.

After they get the tear production corrected they are going to fix my eye lids that have dropped from the thyroid eye disease. It's a cosmetic surgery, but since mine is caused from a disease it's covered by my insurance. :wink:

ETA: To top it off my chronic fatique syndrome has been in over-time....I've been sleeping 12+ hrs a day(broken up though). When it's winter & the weather is unstable my fibro acts up which than = extra fatique from my flares! :banghead:

Thanks Tuba for asking, but I will ask the opthamologist again, if they recommened a limit just the same, if it will help to keep them at bay better! :hug:'s

:angel:
 
Judge: State Can Seek Death For Casey Anthony
Posted: 12:05 pm EST December 18, 2009
Updated: 12:24 pm EST December 18, 2009
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In the case against Casey Anthony, an Orange County judge on Friday denied the defense's request to take the death penalty off the table.

In his ruling, Judge Stan Strickland said the issue of whether to sentence Casey Anthony to death, should she be found guilty, is one best left for a jury to decide.

&#8220;While the quantum of evidence sufficient to seek the death penalty will virtually always be an issue, that matter is generally best left for the jury,&#8221; Judge Strickland wrote in his ruling.

JUDGE'S ORDER: Death Penalty
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22005699/detail.html

Article:
http://www.wftv.com/news/22005565/detail.html

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