I don't know the answer to that question Butterflye as it just occurred to me as I was looking closely and trying to ascertain the Derivative houses of the charts, that Jupiter and Uranus (which always bugged me in the respective signs), seems now to suggest a potential symbol of 2. And the 15 minutes difference, seems to open up that potential symbolically, but I may be on the wrong track too!
It "seems" plausible however. Often these symbols are very subtle and we can miss them.
The fixed Star Scheat is connected
to water and possible drownings.
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Scheat.html
the 24th sieu (Chinese Moon Mansion) was these same stars known as Ying She, or Shih, a House, anciently Sal and Shat; but it also comprised parts of Aquarius and Capricorn.
They also were the Persian Vaht, the Sogdian Iranian and Khorasmian (east of Persia) Farshat Bath, and the Coptic people of Egypt Artulos,
all signifying something pertaining to Water; while in astrology beta (β Scheat) indicated danger to mankind from that element.
With Jupiter: Many voyages, losses through law, friends and relatives,
danger of imprisonment. [Robson*, p.207.]
With Uranus: Deceitful, vacillating, little concentration, psychic, unreliable, involved in difficulties due to own acts, many accidents,
death through drowning or by water especially if in 1st, 6th, 8th or 10th houses. [Robson*, p.207.]
Passionflower:
What are the IIRC women? Not familiar with that term.
