Fox Orlando Mobile Web Cam #6

[Ezryder9]

I didn't read all threads, so you can beat me if this has been asked so far, but anybody know why the camera is on the beach right now?

I'm guessing here...but on our local news on the east coast of FL, they've been showing beach erosion, etc., from tropical storm Fay, and pontificating on what may happen if Hanna comes up the east coast. Again, just guessing, tho.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Unless Erika has some reason to believe that the Anthonys were involved in the disappearance of her daughter, she was way out of line. At least she was ticketed, maybe that will serve as a warning to others who might be planning a similar attack on the Anthonys.

If the webcam were removed, as it should be, I think the "protesters" would lose a lot of their motivation. Protesting wouldn't be nearly as much fun if it didn't get a person's face on the nightly news.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I have to agree with you 100%.

After quietly watching and reading all of the info here and from the news I find it so hard to believe Americans are acting like they have been.

I, as a few have reiterated, find it incredible that the compassion is simply no where to be found.....

I agree. I once made the mistake of watching a video of a young Kurdish girl being stoned to death. Is that were Americans are heading with the Anthonys? I don't think we're that far from it.

 

[Sherbie]

Really, I question their mental stability

How cruel. Maybe someone should call children's services and sign that lady up for a psych eval. Definitely not the place to take your children and cause a spectacle. that they feel the need to bang on the door of a grieving family to tell them what the 'world' thinks of them. Maybe she should worry more about her own children.

She's taking the focus off her own children and putting it on Casey. How sad.

Why doesn't she go join TES and do something productive ? [emphasis added]

I'm behind and apologize if this has already been addressed.

Chicana, take a look at the bolded portions of your quote. Do you realize that if you substitute "grandchild" for "children", everything you said could just as easily be applied to Cindy, and to a far greater degree than the woman you're targeting?

• "I question their mental stability. How cruel. Sign that lady up for a psych eval. Maybe she should worry more about her own [grandchild]. She's taking the focus off her [grandchild] and putting it on Casey. How sad. Why doesn't she go join TES and do something productive?"

I disagree with angry protesters encroaching on the Anthony's property. That said, I respectfully feel that you and others who are judging this woman so harshly should apply an equal measure of judgment toward the Anthonys. I am heartbroken for the family, but they have created this environment of public distrust and frustration.

People expect someone in that family to care enough about Caylee that they step up and tell the truth -- to hell with the consequences. That hasn't happened.

We all feel protective of children -- our own or otherwise -- because we know they are innocent and totally dependent on adults. So it's no wonder that people feel especially protective of a child whose own family won't help her -- a family who distorts, denies and covers the truth, none of which is in Caylee's best interests. These behaviors are far worse in my book than banging on someone's door and letting off steam.

Again, I do NOT condone trespassing on someone's private property; but that woman has got a loooooong way to go to catch up with the Anthonys. I think if we're gonna judge, we have to apply it across the board and in the context of the big picture.

We tend to get what we give in this world and, frankly -- even though I disagree with most of what I've seen with the protesting -- I'm surprised that this sort of public backlash didn't start sooner.

 

[Bully1]

I guess the webcam is frozen???

 

[justbetweenus]

I totally agree. Well said.

Your reply meant a lot to me. Thank-you.

 

[kathyn2]

Yeah the webcam has been frozen all day. Driving me crazy. So is their other webcam. Don't why it is even on??

 

[Bully1]

Grrrrr!

 

[zadari]

you know i will be honest if it were me there is NO way id want to find my daughters body or my granddaughters mabey they are AFRAID to search .. i would be i will admit it .,.id have to be put in a padded cell if that happened to me .. or id be with her soon .. i couldnt handle it no way no how .. not everyone can handle things bravely .. i couldnt

 

[Sherbie]

you know i will be honest if it were me there is NO way id want to find my daughters body or my granddaughters mabey they are AFRAID to search .. i would be i will admit it .,.id have to be put in a padded cell if that happened to me .. or id be with her soon .. i couldnt handle it no way no how .. not everyone can handle things bravely .. i couldnt

I totally understand that, and I really don't think anyone has any sort of issue with their being unable to face that horrid truth -- or even with their wanting to support their daughter. It's the way they've gone about things, putting out false information and possibly even helping Casey tidy up incriminating evidence and such.

I don't expect they will believe Caylee is gone unless/until her little body is found...and maybe I wouldn't either if she were my child/grandchild. I made a post on the Rant thread last night about all this, in response to PotatoHead's excellent post about how difficult it is for a family to lay a child to rest when they DO have a body, and how horrific it is not to EVER have that opportunity. Heartbreaking!

 

[Thrs0806]

you know i will be honest if it were me there is NO way id want to find my daughters body or my granddaughters mabey they are AFRAID to search .. i would be i will admit it .,.id have to be put in a padded cell if that happened to me .. or id be with her soon .. i couldnt handle it no way no how .. not everyone can handle things bravely .. i couldnt

While I certainly can understand this logic, you would then have to look at the flip side with this. Could you live that rest of your life with the NOT knowing where your grandchild is???? I really just don't think that I could - I would rather know so I could grieve, say goddbye and try to get on with putting my life back together somehow..........

 

[Sherbie]

While I certainly can understand this logic, you would then have to look at the flip side with this. Could you live that rest of your life with the NOT knowing where your grandchild is???? I really just don't think that I could - I would rather know so I could grieve, say goddbye and try to get on with putting my life back together somehow..........

I agree, Thrs...I would never rest til I knew for sure. In this case, it's so complicated by the fact that the person who harmed their beloved grandbaby is most likely their own daughter. So as soon as they admit to themselves and the world that Caylee is dead, they have lost both granddaughter AND daughter (and I know they love Casey, regardless the dysfunction in that family and regardless what she's done). So it's a double-edged sword for them, in more ways than one.

I have total compassion for their losses and the unthinkable position they've been put in by Casey. But they HAVE to put Caylee first, even if she's gone. I know they want to hang on to all they have left, but Casey is an adult who, with her lawyer, can certainly fend for herself. For once, she's going to have to face the consequences...her parents can't clean it up for her this time. Caylee, on the other hand, has no voice except for Cindy and George. It's not fair or right that they will not speak up for her. She deserves their undivided loyalty, hard as it may be for them to do that.

Oh dear...I just saw that clip again on NG where George yells that the body in the trunk of Casey's car was not his granddaughter. That particular scene ripped my heart out. It feels like to me that he knows, but doesn't want to know and just isn't gonna hear it from anyone else because it's just too much to face. I get so frustrated with them, but that one moment of tape with George tells me just what kind of agony they must be going through.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I agree, Thrs...I would never rest til I knew for sure. In this case, it's so complicated by the fact that the person who harmed their beloved grandbaby is most likely their own daughter. So as soon as they admit to themselves and the world that Caylee is dead, they have lost both granddaughter AND daughter (and I know they love Casey, regardless the dysfunction in that family). So it's a double-edged sword for them, in more ways than one.

I have total compassion for their losses and the unthinkable position they've been put in by Casey. But they HAVE to put Caylee first, even if she's gone. I know they want to hang on to all they have left, but Casey is an adult who, with her lawyer, can certainly fend for herself. Caylee has no voice except for Cindy and George...they need to help HER.

Oh dear...I just saw that clip again on NG where George yells that the body in the trunk of Casey's car was not his granddaughter. That particular scene ripped my heart out. It feels like to me that he knows, but doesn't want to know and just isn't gonna hear it from anyone else because it's just too much to face. I get so frustrated with them, but that one moment of tape with George tells me just what kind of agony they must be going through.

That's exactly what I heard in George's voice. He simply can't face the truth.

 

[DazzlinDebSD]

That NUTCASE woman who brought her children with her to protest does not deserve to have ANY children. So glad the baby's father took her child away from her six years ago. She is mentally unstable, and went to the Anthony's house for media attention, and to start trouble. Let's not forget her throwing out the "race card." I'm black..... if I did this I'd be in jail for murder crap. She rambles on, and on, and on, and the media gave her the 15 minutes of fame she so desperately needed. Those reporters must be really bored.


Casey's in jail, and this uneducated lady running her mouth needs to get her facts strait and let LE do their job. She should have been arrested, and those kids shoud be taken away from her. She inserted herself into a dangerous situation with her children. What if Cindy or George snapped on her? For a change Cindy did the right thing and didn't get into a confrontation with this nut.:furious:

 

[Sherbie]

That's exactly what I heard in George's voice. He simply can't face the truth.

I think he was seconds away from breaking down sobbing, "She's not dead....she's not....she's not...she can't be....." Genuinely heartbreaking. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it that way.

You know, if that family would just have refrained from putting all those wacky stories and outright fibs out there through the media...if they'd just kept with a simple "no comment" or "we love our daughter and granddaughter and are cooperating with authorities" policy, they would have been so much better off. Things they are saying are not helping Caylee OR Casey. In fact, they have hurt Casey's defense, IMO.

It's better to just leave people to wonder about things than to put implausible and just utterly ridiculous statements in the public domain. When they do that, it makes Casey look all the more guilty. Cindy seems to think every little thing that might point towards Casey has to be immediately and publicly refuted, even if her explanation is downright ludicrous. Bad, bad way to go about things.

 

[Sherbie]

That NUTCASE woman who brought her children with her to protest does not deserve to have ANY children. So glad the baby's father took her child away from her six years ago. She is mentally unstable, and went to the Anthony's house for media attention, and to start trouble. Let's not forget her throwing out the "race card." I'm black..... if I did this I'd be in jail for murder crap. She rambles on, and on, and on, and the media gave her the 15 minutes of fame she so desperately needed. Those reporters must be really bored.


Casey's in jail, and this uneducated lady running her mouth needs to get her facts strait and let LE do their job. She should have been arrested, and those kids shoud be taken away from her. She inserted herself into a dangerous situation with her children. What if Cindy or George snapped on her? For a change Cindy did the right thing and didn't get into a confrontation with this nut.:furious:

Very good point, Deb. She definitely had no business being there and even less dragging her kids into it (like the guy in the arrest mob the other night with his little girl). The thing is, there are sooooo many people out there who for whatever reasons will come out of the woordwork in a high profile situation. I think the Anthonys have practically invited the people who would do such things to bring it on.

I think there would have been a big backlash had they arrested that woman when most of the public believe there may be evidence sufficient to arrest Cindy and George for obstruction/lying to LE/tampering with evidence, and they're still walking around. Trespassing/bad parental judgment vs. breaking the law to help a child escape murder/manslaughter charges. See what I mean? I don't think it would've gone over real well at all to have dragged that gal off in handcuffs, even if she deserved it.

Unfortunately, I think we're gonna see more and more of this type of thing. Those people who are mentally ill, or who want their 15 mins or who simply despise the family -- they're out there watching like the rest of us, and a lot of them don't have good (or any) judgment, to put it kindly. I hope we don't see worse, but I fear that we may.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I think he was seconds away from breaking down sobbing, "She's not dead....she's not....she's not...she can't be....." Genuinely heartbreaking. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw it that way.

You know, if that family would just have refrained from putting all those wacky stories and outright fibs out there through the media...if they'd just kept with a simple "no comment" or "we love our daughter and granddaughter and are cooperating with authorities" policy, they would have been so much better off. Things they are saying are not helping Caylee OR Casey. In fact, they have hurt Casey's defense, IMO.

It's better to just leave people to wonder about things than to put implausible and just utterly ridiculous statements in the public domain. When they do that, it makes Casey look all the more guilty. Cindy seems to think every little thing that might point towards Casey has to be immediately and publicly refuted, even if her explanation is downright ludicrous. Bad, bad way to go about things.

Cindy and George would certainly do themselves a favor by not talking but ultimately I don't think it will make a difference in Casey's defense. What the GPs say to the media can't change the facts or the evidence against her. The case will be tried in the courtroom.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Yeah the webcam has been frozen all day. Driving me crazy. So is their other webcam. Don't why it is even on??

Maybe Cindy found it in the tree....:crazy:

 

[zadari]

While I certainly can understand this logic, you would then have to look at the flip side with this. Could you live that rest of your life with the NOT knowing where your grandchild is???? I really just don't think that I could - I would rather know so I could grieve, say goddbye and try to get on with putting my life back together somehow..........

if it were my kika i really just dont know if i could face it .. id want to be with her .. she is the one thing in my life that is like a ray of sunshine everyday .. her smile lights up the room .it lifts me up and i just dont know if i could be without her .

 

[Sherbie]

Have to disagree a little, Chilly. I think it's never a good idea from a defendant's perspective for their own family to help make them look guilty or more guilty. Jurors should walk into a trial without bias and put aside all they've heard, and I believe that almost always happens. But on the small chance you might influence a potential juror in a very negative way and they consciously or subconsciously bring that with them when deciding you child's fate...why risk it?