France, Dominique Pélicot, drugged wife of 50 years nightly, filmed rape by at least 51 men, 2011-2020

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1841769055742546229

 

[dotr]

rbbm Oct 3 '24

Not All Men, but Any Man

The mass-rape trial in France exposes a case that’s both wholly unprecedented and dully familiar.

www.theatlantic.com

''He kept detailed records, saving videos and photographs of each man in file folders categorized by their first name—“part pleasure,” he later explained in court, “but also, part insurance.” With regard to his wife’s safety, however, he was strikingly nonchalant. He didn’t require that any of the men accused of raping his wife use condoms. Some are accused of choking her while Dominique watched; others, of assaulting her with objects. One man, who was HIV-positive, allegedly raped Gisèle on six separate occasions, telling Dominique that he couldn’t maintain an erection if he wore protection''

 

[Dotta]

rbbm Oct 3 '24

Not All Men, but Any Man

The mass-rape trial in France exposes a case that’s both wholly unprecedented and dully familiar.

www.theatlantic.com

''He kept detailed records, saving videos and photographs of each man in file folders categorized by their first name—“part pleasure,” he later explained in court, “but also, part insurance.” With regard to his wife’s safety, however, he was strikingly nonchalant. He didn’t require that any of the men accused of raping his wife use condoms. Some are accused of choking her while Dominique watched; others, of assaulting her with objects. One man, who was HIV-positive, allegedly raped Gisèle on six separate occasions, telling Dominique that he couldn’t maintain an erection if he wore protection''

Choking???

The poor woman could be struggling with brain damage due to oxygen deprivation.

Not to mention all these drugs he was pumping her with

Honestly,
this is all too much

Throw away the key!!!!!!

JMO

 

[Brightchaser47]

rbbm Oct 3 '24

Not All Men, but Any Man

The mass-rape trial in France exposes a case that’s both wholly unprecedented and dully familiar.

www.theatlantic.com

''He kept detailed records, saving videos and photographs of each man in file folders categorized by their first name—“part pleasure,” he later explained in court, “but also, part insurance.” With regard to his wife’s safety, however, he was strikingly nonchalant. He didn’t require that any of the men accused of raping his wife use condoms. Some are accused of choking her while Dominique watched; others, of assaulting her with objects. One man, who was HIV-positive, allegedly raped Gisèle on six separate occasions, telling Dominique that he couldn’t maintain an erection if he wore protection''

This was all very calculated on Dominique's part. He must've felt he had power and control over not only his wife, but the men he "recruited". There are no excuses for any of them. jmo

 

[LadyL]

Dominique Pelicot : le monstre de Mazan avait déjà sévi

Il a livré sa femme en pâture à des inconnus. Mais Dominique P. pourrait également être un tueur. Nos révélations.<br /> <br />

www.parismatch.com

Dominique Pelicot : le monstre de Mazan avait déjà sévi

Il a livré sa femme en pâture à des inconnus. Mais Dominique P. pourrait également être un tueur. Nos révélations.<br /> <br />

www-parismatch-com.translate.goog

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''On the left, the face of the attacker, according to the testimony of Marion, a real estate agent trapped in Villeparisis in 1999. On the right, the photo of Dominique P. on his passport, renewed in 2015, two years after he moved to Mazan, in Vaucluse. © DR''

eyes are spot on
nose very similar
bags under eyes and face shape also close

 

[LadyL]

... but in what condition? She looks fine, but can't feel fine.

yes this will be a long road for her
I can't imagine ever completely healing from something like this
thank goodness she has her adult children around for support

 

[LadyL]

Each man has a different story. The one who met both Mr. and Mrs. Pelicot at a bar on New Year's Eve was told by Mr. Pelicot that his wife is attracted to him and wants to sleep with him. Then he was invited back to their house for sex. He didn't think she would be drugged. It was only after he got there that she appeared drunk or asleep, but he was urged on by Mr. Pelicot saying it was okay and that she wanted it. These 50 men should be put in different categories. They are all going to jail. The ones who knew about the drugs should get more jail time.

oh ok well since he was urged on by the rapist/possible murderer, we'll forgive the man

 

[LadyL]

rbbm Oct 3 '24

Not All Men, but Any Man

The mass-rape trial in France exposes a case that’s both wholly unprecedented and dully familiar.

www.theatlantic.com

''He kept detailed records, saving videos and photographs of each man in file folders categorized by their first name—“part pleasure,” he later explained in court, “but also, part insurance.” With regard to his wife’s safety, however, he was strikingly nonchalant. He didn’t require that any of the men accused of raping his wife use condoms. Some are accused of choking her while Dominique watched; others, of assaulting her with objects. One man, who was HIV-positive, allegedly raped Gisèle on six separate occasions, telling Dominique that he couldn’t maintain an erection if he wore protection''

I feel like I've said this before in this case but it just keeps getting worse ...

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Just wanted to give a thank you too all reporting in this thread with updates. This case is so horrid and deplorable. And somewhat difficult to even try to read and follow. Bless the dear victim. Only her! And no others. Not a single one of them.

And from reading, IMO all those that partook with the disgusting ‘husband’ in the offenses deserve equal measure and punishment. Swift, just, full, and lasting. The victim was not a willing or consenting participant! And IIRC even some of the early comments from the mayor were despicable and so out of touch.

I also found it interesting in the post up thread # 321 that the ‘husband’ or ‘ring leader’ (my words) chose to shield or hide his face in the police van from press reporter cameras. IIUC he was quite proud to ‘share’ his experience and warped twisted desires earlier. IMO all of his conduct and actions seem those of an absolute coward. SMH. /rant MOO

 

[dotr]

Lengthy, Oct 3 '24

"Monster of Avignon" rape scandal: Is it France's #MeToo moment?

Dominique Pélicot, a retired electrician, has admitted drugging his wife and allowing the alleged rape of his wife in a case that has shocked France.

www.newsweek.com

"Sometimes it is really unbearable, so I cannot go every day," said Deverlanges, founder of Les Amazones d'Avignon, a group whose members have protested outside Vaucluse criminal court since the case against Pélicot's husband Dominique and 50 other men started on September 2.

"I felt sick," Deverlanges told Newsweek in describing the first time she heard details of how the retired electrician allegedly drugged his wife and recruited accomplices in an online chatroom to sexually violate her while it was being filmed.

"During the hearing I cry and the women around me, you see tears on their faces—it is so inhuman. This woman has been a victim of such monstrosity that we feel compassion and anger and everything is mixed," she said. "You feel so disgusted."

 

[vls12345]

Also, can you imagine being LE who investigated this & then had to go share these findings with Gisèle Pelicot? Wth type of conversation was that, kwim?

Everything in this case is jaw-dropping. Depraved. Heartbreaking.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1842336456095776971

"It comes after a two-week legal battle
in which journalists following the trial argued
that the videos were crucial for a full understanding of the extraordinary case.

The videos, the lawyers say, speak for themselves.

With Friday's decision,
Judge Arata reversed his earlier 20 September ruling
that the videos would be shown only on a case-by-case basis,
and behind closed doors.

At the time,
he had argued that they undermined the
'dignity' of the hearings.

A day later,
France's Judicial Press Association filed a request against the decision,
backed by Ms Pelicot's lawyers.

Until now,
each time a video was shown,
journalists and members of the public had to leave the courtroom.

his opinion, Mr Deniau said the video appeared to
counter claims by the defendants of a consensual 'game'."

 

[FromGermany1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1842336456095776971

"It comes after a two-week legal battle
in which journalists following the trial argued
that the videos were crucial for a full understanding of the extraordinary case.

The videos, the lawyers say, speak for themselves.

With Friday's decision,
Judge Arata reversed his earlier 20 September ruling
that the videos would be shown only on a case-by-case basis,
and behind closed doors.

At the time,
he had argued that they undermined the
'dignity' of the hearings.

A day later,
France's Judicial Press Association filed a request against the decision,
backed by Ms Pelicot's lawyers.

Until now,
each time a video was shown,
journalists and members of the public had to leave the courtroom.

his opinion, Mr Deniau said the video appeared to
counter claims by the defendants of a consensual 'game'."

Isn't that too much for the victim?? And for their child/children?? Idk, if it is really neccessary for the trial/s and conviction/s of the husband and his accomplices. Maybe, at one point it will get too much for the poor victim, and then it will be too late perhaps?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

French judge in Pelicot mass rape trial to allow public to see video evidence

A French judge in the trial of dozens of men accused of raping an unconscious woman decided to allow the public to see some video recordings of the alleged rapes.

www.cbsnews.com

Since the hearings started on Sept. 2, Pelicot has come face-to-face almost daily with her ex-husband, Dominique Pelicot, and 49 other alleged rapists. She has been praised for her courage and composure, admired for speaking in a calm and clear voice, and allowing that her full name be published —uncommon under French law for victims in rape trials.

Her insistence that the videos, recorded by her ex-husband and submitted as evidence in the trial —in which men can be seen sexually abusing her apparently inert body— be shown to the public speak to her wish that trial serve as a national
example, one of her lawyers told The Associated Press.

"It's a unique case: we don't have one representation of rape. We have dozens, hundreds of videos of a rape," said the attorney, Stéphane Babonneau. "Gisèle Pelicot thinks that this shock wave is necessary, so that no one can say after this: 'I didn't know this was rape'."

 

[Kemug]

This is just so awful. The less civilised side of me wants to say bring back public hangings (and I'll sell the peanuts), bring back hanging, drawing and quartering, bring back the most ghoulish punishments imaginable. Of course you can't say those things nowadays. Some of you may reprimand me, so I hasten to add I don't really mean it.

 

[FansBlowing]

I don't think Mr. Pelicot has any remorse for the things that he has done to his wife. He is proud of his actions and filmed everything so he could relive those moments over and over again. Again, lock him up and throw away the key please.

 

[Dotta]

I don't think Mr. Pelicot has any remorse for the things that he has done to his wife. He is proud of his actions and filmed everything so he could relive those moments over and over again. Again, lock him up and throw away the key please.

I'm not sure he is proud.
He is a sexual deviant, seemingly a voyeur,
that is why he filmed everything.

JMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think he had a seething hatred for his wife and it was his way of getting back at her.

I think he took it as an insult that she refused to have a threesome.
After all he was head of the family and he could do what he liked with her, because he owned her.

He'd show her...

 

[LadyL]

these sickos all have much more criminal activity in their pasts IMO, esp. DP who I think will be proven to be a murderer at some point JMO

 

[Dotta]

" 'We are all Gisèle': ​

French women rise up against 'rape culture' during the trial.​

'French society,
like all patriarchal society,
doesn't like women
and doesn't defend them',
said Anissa Rami, a 28-year-old freelance journalist from Paris.

On September 14, feminist organizations organized rallies in at least 30 cities in response to the case.



Out of almost 35,000 rapes recorded that year,
just over 10% were prosecuted,
and fewer than 5% resulted in a conviction.

And the vast majority of rape or attempted rape victims − nine out of ten − never even file a complaint, the report found.

To the women demonstrating in support of Gisèle Pelicot,
it represents a cultural shift in how rape cases are perceived
– shame belongs to the perpetrators, not the victim.

'It's a long fight.'



And for many, it is embodied in Gisele Pelicot's fearlessness and nonchalant attitude
when confronting her accused rapists in the courtroom."

'We are all Gisèle': French women rise up against 'rape culture' during Gisèle Pelicot trial

French women are protesting in the thousands to support Gisèle Pelicot, whose husband is on trial for inviting more than 50 men to rape her.

eu.usatoday.com