Found Deceased France - Maëlys De Araujo, 9, Pont-de-Beauvoisin, 27 Aug 2017

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I find it odd that in his story, he says he went and drank beer for an hour with his friends, then vomited, and had to go throw away his shorts and shower and change.

What grown man drinks beer for an hour and then pukes? There must be something missing from that story that actually brought that on. If it was even his ....

It's also interesting that he says he was so drunk he vomited on himself, but somehow managed to drive back to his house and whatnot without incident?


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NORDAHL LELANDAIS ALLEGEDLY TOOK OVER TWO HOURS TO WASH HIS CAR

Internaute.com
http://www.linternaute.com/actualit...lys-la-faille-qui-pourrait-sauver-le-suspect/


According to the Dauphine Libéré, Nordahl Lelandeis has washed his car for more than two hours after Maëlys's disappearance. The newspaper quotes "a source close to the investigation" who describes a sequence of 2hours and 15 minutes, extracted from the video surveillance camera of the car wash. The Dauphiné indicates that in addition to the trunk of the car, washed with a rim stripper, images show how Nordahl Lelandeis repeatedly cleans "the exterior and interior door handles on the passenger side, the floor mat, the seat, always on the passenger side".


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Wondering what he did with the cloth or whatever apparatus he may have used to wash the car ?
 
Wondering what he did with the cloth or whatever apparatus he may have used to wash the car ?

Very good question dotr. What about a vacuum,did he vacuum out the car?
 
Wondering what he did with the cloth or whatever apparatus he may have used to wash the car ?


CCTV FOOTAGE SHOWS THAT THE SUSPECT SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME ON SPECIFIC PARTS OF HIS VEHICLE


Le Parisien
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...e-du-lavage-de-voiture-27-09-2017-7291539.php

Barely had he been heard on Sunday 27 August as a simple witness by the gendarmes, when Nordhal Lelandais, 34, the suspect imprisoned in the investigation into the disappearance of Maëlys, 9 years old, in Pont-de-Beauvoisin (Isère) rushed to the car wash to clean up his Audi A 3. A car at the centre of the investigations, of which the entire cleaning was filmed by two video surveillance cameras. Two devices that cross each other and film in sequences. The clean-up lasted a little more than 2 hours and 17 minutes, according to the time code retrieved by the investigators.


The videos show the ex-dog-handler working on "a real obsessive cleaning" of his vehicle, which was always considered very clean anyway. During these sequences, he is filmed taking the car's floor mats out one by one and vacuuming them. He is also seen pulling out the front passenger seat. A proper cleaning with a detergent. The suspect takes a particularly long time to work on the right side of the vehicle. He uses for more than 41 minutes the vacuum cleaners and methodically recharges the timer with coins.

He cleans the interior and trunk, using a particularly degreasing and deoxidizing product for wheels. A solution so powerful that it disturbs the sense of smell of the gendarmerie's track dogs. Another eye-catching detail is Nordhal Lelandais's patience to polish the interior and exterior handles of the passenger side door. He puts a lot of effort on these handles and on the door controls. The Audi driver leaves the premises around 7:45 pm. It is only the next day that investigators will learn of this total clean-up.


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I've seen the reports that he threw away his soiled shorts but has there been any mention of his undershorts?

Also, early on LE said they found traces of Maëlys' DNA on the dashboard passenger side of his car. Is that still correct?

And has anyone found the (probably fictitious) little boy that NL claimed was with Maëlys in his car?

Jim_M, I'm with you - lemme at him! :whip: :trout:
 
PARENTS OF MAËLYS TO SPEAK AT PRESS CONFERENCE

BFMTVcom
http://www.bfmtv.com/police-justice...-ont-choisi-de-sortir-du-silence-1266027.html

More than a month after Maëlys' disappearance, her parents will hold a press conference in Lyon on Thursday evening.
For a month now, the parents of Maëlys, who disappeared at a wedding, have only spoken through their lawyer. This Thursday, they decided to break their silence," their counsel Rajon said. They will speak at the end of the day at a press conference to be held in Lyon, the precise details of which are not known at this time.


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ANOTHER CONTRADICTION IN THE STATEMENT OF THE SUSPECT

Le Dauphine
http://www.ledauphine.com//isere-no...cherches-pont-de-beauvoisin-isere-disparition

A further inconsistency would have arisen in the statements of the 30-something year old under investigation and imprisoned for kidnapping and sequestration of a minor under 15 years of age.

According to the Dauphiné Libéré, the DNA trace of the 9-year-old girl, mixed with the suspect's, was found on the light switch on his Audi A3. This button is located on the left side of the steering wheel.

However, the ex-serviceman of Domessin ended up admitting to having "opened the front passenger door and lowered the seat. The children got into the backseat, looked into the trunk to checked if the dogs were not in the trunk. Then they came out and everyone went back into the party hall again.

According to him, the girl entered the seat through the right door while the famous button is between the steering wheel and the driver's side of the left door.

Behavioural gendarmes have also been contributing to the investigation unit that has been mobilised day and night since Maëlys' disappearance. According to our information, these specialists intervened in particular during the suspect's arrest.

"Their mission is to decipher, to analyze the logic of certain suspects with complex psychological profiles, to detect certain loopholes", according to a source of the gendarmerie.

The search for Maëlys has entered its twelfth day. This morning, the nautical brigade divers of Aix-les-Bains continue exploring the gorges de Chailles (Savoie). The exploration started yesterday afternoon.

In order to facilitate these searches in a steep environment, a helicopter of the gendarmerie allows the air-lifting of divers.
The helicopter flies over the gorges area near the Savoyard commune of Saint-Béron, on the banks of the river Guiers.


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This could be the famous button, le commutateur d’éclairage de son Audi A3 except that we do not know the year of the car. I took a look at the inside of various Audi A3 and to my pagan eyes (since I never had an Audi) the dashboard and the switch look rather complicated.

If this is indeed the light switch, it is more like a unit with various buttons and this unit is integrated into the dashboard. IMHO there would be no particular reason not to clean this area while you were at it, or to overlook it.

Also, I cannot think of any reason why Maëlys would be behind the steering wheel (driving the car?) or needing the headlights ~ all while no DNA of hers was found on his shirt or shoes.

The only possible red flag might be that the DNA could have been on the suspect's left hand, since that is the hand used to activate the switch. If they shook hands - most innocent explanation - her DNA would be on his right hand. How did her DNA get on his left hand and - possibly - index finger?

His best answer would be that he does not know. Transfers happen.

I've seen the reports that he threw away his soiled shorts but has there been any mention of his undershorts?

Also, early on LE said they found traces of Maëlys' DNA on the dashboard passenger side of his car. Is that still correct?

And has anyone found the (probably fictitious) little boy that NL claimed was with Maëlys in his car?

Jim_M, I'm with you - lemme at him! :whip: :trout:

From this translation of the article by ZaZara,
According to the Dauphiné Libéré, the DNA trace of the 9-year-old girl, mixed with the suspect's, was found on the light switch on his Audi A3. This button is located on the left side of the steering wheel.

A mix might mean that he touched Maëlys, in some manner, and then touched his light switch. Or, if the vomit was NOT his, perhaps some of the spray got on him, and then he touched the light switch. In either manner, Maëlys' DNA was on that light switch. This is all IMO as we really do not know how he obtained this innocent child's DNA.

ETA. We might need to print up some tickets, and form a line, to have a 'go' at him.
 
Presser.

Lawyer: parents will speak but not answer questions.



Father:
we want to speak today. we thank all journalists. we will read a text that we prepared.
we want to explain why we did not speak before - wanting to protect private life and not disturb investigations
thanks all those who searched, thanking all who sent messages of support
and the Gendarmerie and the investigators
and we thank our lawyer
and we thank the authorities

Mother:
today a man is in custody. we do not seach a culprit. due results of investigation and to his behaviour we want to ask him to tell what he knows. he may have important info.
our sole wish is to find our daughter
she is joyuful, energetic and ... generous, I miss her so much.


Heartbreaking her voice.
 
PARENTS BREAK THEIR SILENCE

BFMTV.com
http://www.bfmtv.com/police-justice...-une-conference-de-presse-a-lyon-1266216.html


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Their lives have obviously been turned upside down since their child's disappearance," Sarah-Lou Cohen, head of the police justice service, explained tp our journalist before the press conference:" They have been living with friends since the disappearance. They live in private with their other little girl, Maëlys's older sister, 12 years old, who has not been back in school since the drama."
Fabien Rajon, the lawyer for the relatives of the disappeared girl, underlined the reasons for this press conference: "Pressuring the suspect is not at all the state of mind. (...) The parents' attitude is to say that today is a race against the clock and that we cannot afford to wait. They also want to say that there were serious and consistent clues which could justify an indictment and that this individual obviously has interesting things to say to investigators in order, on the one hand, to move the investigation forward and, on the other hand, perhaps, to enable us to find the child.

It was in the midst of these expectations that Maëlys' parents spoke on Wednesday at 6:35 p. m., after an opening statement by their lawyer. "We are asking him to tell us everything he did that night and to cooperate with the investigators," Jennifer de Araujo said about the suspect.

"We're not saying we're looking for someone guilty at all costs. But we are asking him to reveal what he knows," she said.

"His behavior is not convincing of his good faith. We are certain that he has important information. He must undoubtedly think a lot from inside his cell," Jennifer De Araujo said, before whispering: "This waiting time is unbearable."


Before his wife spoke, Joachim De Araujo also made his voice heard. Maëlys' father wanted to explain the reasons for their couple's prolonged silence:"First of all, we want to explain to you why we did not communicate in the media after the disappearance. We wanted to protect our privacy as well as the privacy of our eldest daughter and our loved ones. The respect for the work of investigators and judges is also an issue."
 
FIRE IN GRENOBLE: HAS EVIDENCE OF MAËLYS' CASE BEEN DESTROYED IN THE FLAMES?

BFMTV.com
http://www.bfmtv.com/police-justice...aire-maelys-ont-ils-ete-detruits-1266352.html

During his brief press conference on Thursday, Maëlys's father was outraged: "We want to denounce the fire at the Grenoble gendarmerie, which almost destroyed important evidence for investigators."


During the fire at part of the Grenoble gendarmerie's technical premises on 21 September, investigative equipment, vehicles and numerous exhibits were destroyed. Among them, evidence in the Maëlys case, the 9-year-old girl who disappeared at the end of August in Pont-de-Beauvoisin, in Isère, during a wedding party.

Quoted by government spokesman Christophe Castaner, [ French President ] Emmanuel Macron denounced in the Council of Ministers "the radical discourses that make it banal that in a fire of the seriousness of the one we experienced in Grenoble, clues and elements of the case get lost concerning the search for a young girl, little Maëlys." The fire was claimed by an anarchist-libertarian site.

"This is indeed the case,", the prosecutor of Grenoble, Jean-Yves Coquillat, confirmed the day after the fire to France 3 Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes. "But it is a very small number of evidences of this investigation entrusted to the Grenoble investigative section," he said. "These evidences were quite secondary and of no major interest. In this kind of investigation, we seize almost everything," according to the prosecutor's office.

Maëlys's father was outraged at his brief press conference on Thursday. "We want to denounce the fire at the Grenoble gendarmerie, which almost destroyed important evidence for investigators."

According to Le Dauphiné, this concerns a pair of socks "brought by a clairvoyant who thinks they may belong to the victim and a rim cleaning product taken from the gas station where the suspect washed his car and that can therefore be replaced."

The justice system had initially announced that none of the evidence in the Maëlys case had been destroyed. The suspect's vehicle was not in the warehouse that burned down and the most important pieces of evidence had been handed over to laboratories for analysis.



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FYI The French justice system does not believe in psychics, nor do they work with them as such. The reason they do pay attention to their messages is that among them someone may be hiding who shares his or her factual knowledge under the guise of clairvoyance.
 
Looking at the grieving parents is just heartbreaking. Their daughter was just stunningly beautiful and looked so intelligent and sweet. It is just hard to accept that someone could grab her and do such cruel things to her and her family. :cry:
 
Lorsqu’on demande à la mère de Nordahl Lelandais, qui clame son innocence, si elle pense que son fils est maintenant susceptible de parler, la réponse fuse : « Peut-être, oui, je pense. Ce n’est pas quelqu’un sans sensibilité, au contraire. Nordahl a un cœur. »

After seeing Maelys' parents' pleas, NL's mother was asked if her son might now speak. She says maybe, yes, she thinks so. He is not insensitive, quite the contrary. Nordahl has a heart.

She says she will try to visit with him and tell him that if he saw something, he must speak.

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...t-va-parler-a-son-fils-28-09-2017-7294140.php
 
DOGS BECAME INTOXICATED WHILE SEARCHING THE SUSPECT'S AUDI

LeParisien
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...lant-l-audi-du-suspect-28-09-2017-7294080.php

Shortly after their intervention, the Malinois shepherds, intoxicated, started to vomit. The powerful detergent Nordahl Lelandeis used to scrub his trunk had made them sick.

The two Malinois shepherds from the national police odorology service who were involved in the Maëlys affair became intoxicated. Odorology, used since 2003 in France, makes it possible to highlight and identify the detectable odours of a victim or perpetrator.

The two dogs belong to the central identification service of Ecully (Rhône). They had been used by the gendarmes to detect odours in the suspect's car in order to determine whether or not the girl had been in the car. Shortly after their intervention, the Malinois shepherds became sick and vomited.

The cause: the powerful detergent used by Nordahl Lelandais to scrub the trunk of his Audi A3.
As we revealed yesterday, the suspect was filmed cleaning his car at a gas station for two hours and fifteen minutes the day after the evening the girl disappeared in Pont-de-Beauvoisin (Isère). A wash he carried out with a view to selling his vehicle on Tuesday, the suspect said.


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True dog lover he is......
 
I'm confused by his story of the kids entering his car to check for the dogs in the trunk?? Why didn't they go through the outside? This perv is guilty, and I have no idea why it's taking them so long to charge him. Also, I'm having a hard time understanding how the parents found it weird that he was talking to the little girl, but they didn't take her away from him. A strange man following your child around and no one thinks it's weird and creepy???
 
I'm confused by his story of the kids entering his car to check for the dogs in the trunk?? Why didn't they go through the outside? This perv is guilty, and I have no idea why it's taking them so long to charge him. Also, I'm having a hard time understanding how the parents found it weird that he was talking to the little girl, but they didn't take her away from him. A strange man following your child around and no one thinks it's weird and creepy???
This is what I don't understand. And he was hanging around the kids room and the babysitter didn't say anything. Nobody thought this was weird???
 
DOGS BECAME INTOXICATED WHILE SEARCHING THE SUSPECT'S AUDI

LeParisien
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...lant-l-audi-du-suspect-28-09-2017-7294080.php

Shortly after their intervention, the Malinois shepherds, intoxicated, started to vomit. The powerful detergent Nordahl Lelandeis used to scrub his trunk had made them sick.

The two Malinois shepherds from the national police odorology service who were involved in the Maëlys affair became intoxicated. Odorology, used since 2003 in France, makes it possible to highlight and identify the detectable odours of a victim or perpetrator.

The two dogs belong to the central identification service of Ecully (Rhône). They had been used by the gendarmes to detect odours in the suspect's car in order to determine whether or not the girl had been in the car. Shortly after their intervention, the Malinois shepherds became sick and vomited.

The cause: the powerful detergent used by Nordahl Lelandais to scrub the trunk of his Audi A3.
As we revealed yesterday, the suspect was filmed cleaning his car at a gas station for two hours and fifteen minutes the day after the evening the girl disappeared in Pont-de-Beauvoisin (Isère). A wash he carried out with a view to selling his vehicle on Tuesday, the suspect said.


BBM


True dog lover he is......
He really knew what he was doing.
 
PARENTS OF MISSING CHILDREN: THE WORST IS NOT KNOWING

LeParisien
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...e-est-de-ne-pas-savoir-30-09-2017-7296945.php

The pain of Maëlys's parents is the same as that of the parents who have lived or are still living through the tragedy of the unbearable wait. They agreed to tell us about it.

She was also in front of her television on Thursday evening, when the parents of Maëlys, who has been missing for over a month from a wedding in Isère, urged the principal suspect in a poignant appeal to "reveal what he knows".

The endless waiting, the doubt about her child's destiny... Tears that Valérie Lance knows only too well. In June 2011, her son Alexandre, 13 years old, disappeared in Pau (Pyrénées-Orientales). For three weeks, she stirred heaven and earth to find him, clung to the craziest clues, until horror reduced her hopes to nothing: the femur of Alexander, murdered and dismembered, had just been found in the river Gave de Pau...

Six years and two trials later, this hurting mother cannot help but follow the developments of the Maëlys case, which echoes her pain. "I have a lot of compassion for these parents," she says, "I wish them all the best in finding their daughter, but I also wish that they may know...."

"The worst of it all," admits the one who was confronted with a horrifying truth, "the worst is not knowing." This" unbearable waiting " that Maëlys' mother, her voice shattered by emotion, spoke of on Thursday, is an unfathomable chasm in which every parent of a missing child tries, in his or her own way, not to disappear in. "Relatives hold on by keeping active. Nothing is more insurmountable for a father or mother than to feel helpless," according to Hélène Romano, a doctor in psychopathology and author of the book "Accompanying the child victim to justice" (Ed. Dunod).

Valérie Lance, too, has known the sleepless nights, the life that goes by "like in a parallel world", her eyes fixed on the Internet in search of the slightest clue, telephone at hand night and day..."I had a notebook in which I wrote down everything as soon as someone called me, including some crazy trails. I even called on psychics, one of whom assured me to the very end that Alexander was alive... Because that's what I wanted to hear,"she says.

Hope feeds on everything, including a "form of rationalization at all costs that makes it possible to dispel the anguish of death," says Hélène Romano. Alain Boulay, president of the Association of Parents of Child Victims (Apev), recalls the incredible impact of Natascha Kampusch's release in 2006, who spent eight years in a cellar in Austria. It has given back hope to the relatives of the missing, who now say that nothing is impossible," he says. "They consider their child to be alive until proven otherwise..." An unquestionable fact for Valérie Lance, who remembers registering Alexandre at the summer recreation centre, renewing his bus pass for the school year, "all those things we did as a ritual in June," she says.

In cases of disappearance, grief - not in the sense of death, but in the sense of loss - is impossible," Hélène Romano says. "We are talking about suspended mourning, like the families of victims of aerial crashes who, without bodies, keep up the crazy hope that their loved one may be alive somewhere..."
But time is a poison that erodes hope. That of Annie Audoye, after 26 years of "absence" from her daughter Marie-Hélène, who disappeared in May 1991 near Monaco, is still there... but it is tiny and so sad. "I have long wished for a confession because, by denying her death, the person who hurt my daughter also denies her life. Today, I am reduced to hoping that one day we will find a body, by chance," the mother of a family sobs. She fears, after her husband's death, that she may pass away without knowing the truth. For a month now, she too has identified with Maëlys' parents and, like them, is waiting for only one thing:
"Let him say what he knows."


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PONT-DE-BEAUVOISIN: VEHICLES CIRCULATING AT NIGHT CHECKED BY GENDARMERIE


Le Dauphine.com
http://www.ledauphine.com/isere-nord/2017/10/01/les-vehicules-circulant-de-nuit-controles

On Saturday night, one month after Maëlys' disappearance, the police officers of the La Tour-du-Pin unit carried out an operation to control vehicles circulating in the area. Three posts were set up: in Pont-de-Beauvoisin, Abrets and Saint-Geoire-en-Valdaine.

From 2 a. m. to 5 a. m., in the same time slot as the disappearance of the little girl, they recorded the license plates of the vehicles and the identities of the drivers. The same operation had been carried out a week after the mysterious disappearance. The goal is to check whether people use these roads regularly at that time.

Some fifteen gendarmes were mobilized, with the support of the Chambéry unit for the Savoie side of Pont-de-Beauvoisin and the Abrets motorcyclists.

Motorists were also questioned about the case, as constables attempted to obtain additional information. The operation revealed nothing new and the identities and registration plates of the vehicles checked were transmitted to the investigation cell.


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From 2 a. m. to 5 a. m., in the same time slot as the disappearance
.... :thinking:
 
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