Resolved GA - Butts Co, Human Remains in Suitcase along I-75, Dec 2017 - Name withheld

[Bit of hope]

Still no news on this human remains....male or female.....

 

[The British Empire]

No NamUs page. Do we know the race of this doe?

 

[Gardener1850]

No NamUs page. Do we know the race of this doe?

No, not yet.

 

[Stanly]

Still no news.... [emoji19]

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[Al Ka]

Janell is missing from Augusta, GA but her step-father who kidnapped her was found alone in Atlanta. Here is a map-- first address is block of Janell's home, Second is the intersection close to where the remains were found and last address is a gas station in Atlanta where Leon Tripp was spotted alone right before the warrant for his arrest was issued: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/310...9b1a92f94673!2m2!1d-84.414489!2d33.733578!3e0

http://www.wrdw.com/content/news/In...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Location is close enough to Atlanta I think Leon could have hidden Janell there before going up to Atlanta. JMO.
Still waiting on more details on these remains. Hopefully LE can solve this one easily. With the location being off a main interstate, the UID could theoretically be from anywhere.

Latania Janell Carwell can be now excluded. Her remains were just found in shallow grave on Thursday, March 8 on Golden Camp Road. Stepdad and mother were arrested.

http://www.11alive.com/article/news...ow-grave-identified-as-missing-teen/527900965

 

[margarita25]

(Following. I wish Foxfire could contribute because I bet he he would have some great input, with him being from Georgia.)

These remains might not necessarily be from someone missing in that state. It really could be anyone at this point, but for some reason I thought of Heather Elvis.)

 

[Bit of hope]

(Following. I wish Foxfire could contribute because I bet he he would have some great input, with him being from Georgia.)

These remains might not necessarily be from someone missing in that state. It really could be anyone at this point, but for some reason I thought of Heather Elvis.)

Like to think with you...any motivation, links, thoughts?

 

[Gardener1850]

Has been entered into NAMUS now but oddly no mention of the suitcase: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/17583

Details from case file: Partial skeletal remains of a Black female, 19-45 with a gap in her front teeth

 

[Gardener1850]

Wondering if this could be Rosselys Felix Hernandez: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...lys-Felix-Hernandez-31-Jupiter-Nov-2016/page2

(Someone please submit if it seems possible, I'm only suggesting here, thanks)

 

[cybervampira]

Adding Fox 5 news video:
https://youtu.be/u1R3MdEuXEc

 

[Bit of hope]

To start somewhere....realizing this UID could come from anywhere.....

From Namus Black/African American females missingfrom Georgia between 01/01/1973 (2018 minus 45) to 12/28/2017, age between 19 to 45. With gap betweenteeth first, then some potentials, left out the females who would be to old.

GillespieDennaia K. 10/10/2017 Marietta, GA 38 Gab between teeth/ No DNA or dentals/missing and found period to shortto be completely skeleton? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/42035/0/
Cox,Kimberly M. 08/15/2014 Suwanee, GA 41 last seen at the Motel 6 in Suwanee, Georgia. Her vehicle was left inthe parking lot. Gap in front teeth/ Tattoo “heart” left breast/DNA tests notcomplete, no dentals https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/38040/3?current_page=physical_characteristics
Mcleod,Shawndell E. 09/24/2011 Dekalb County, GA 35 went missing while leaving her home for work/No DNAsample, no dentals/might have a slight gab, not enough visible on picture, notmentioned. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14921/5?current_page=physical_characteristics
Carr,Stephanie E. 01/28/2015 Jonesboro, GA 36 has small children, she said she was going to take a plain to CA, teethnot shown on photo no gap mentioned/ lip & ear piercings/ DNA available, nodentals/ Tattoo on leftarm believed to say "PEARL and an unknown one on back. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/32144/1?current_page=case_information
Curry,Athena J. 05/27/2011 Atlanta, GA 20 Athena was last seen with her sons father who claims she left walking inthe middle of the night after a heated argument; leaving her son behind/photo’sshow no teeth but photo’s dental records in Namus file (I’m not good in this), piercingsnose and right side lower lip and tattoos/DNA on file https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12522/6?current_page=case_information
Rogers,Tamikqra S. 07/22/1999 East Point, GA 24 was last seen at her residence in the vicinity of the 2700 block ofBlount St. in Eastpoint, GA. Her mother stated that she left at approximately5:30am to catch the bus to go to work. However, she never made it to work thatday/pierced ears and two freckles directly above right eye. Single dark frecklebelow left eye/no DNA or dentals/photo shows she could have a small some kindof gap, none mentioned in file. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/479/17?current_page=photos
Jones,Tequila N. 02/01/2004 Carrollton, GA 26 was last seen at her residence in the vicinity of Boykin Dr. and WhoopingCreek Rd. in Carrollton, GA/Tattoo of the words "Lady Dread" on leftbicep and pierced navel/no DNA, no dentals/teeth are shown but from aside, nogap mentioned.
Hammonds,Dianna A. 09/04/2010 Atlanta, GA 38 to old 46 but leaving her in/last known to be at her residence on orabout September 04, 2010/has tattoo on the back of her neck (KeKe), and atattoo on her right leg (Paul and Marquis)/DNA available/photo shows teeth butis blurred/no gap mentioned.
Shaw-Gibson,Da' Wan J. 09/13/2004 Hinesville, GA 20 was last seen at approximately 10:30pm at her residence in the vicinityof the 1100 block of Rally Dr. in Hinesville, GA/Pierced ears and tattoo ofthree "footprints" on right thigh, DNA is available, dentals arenot/teeth show no obvious gab, not mentioned in file.
Peterson,Marcie T. 10/30/2003 Marietta, GA 28 Marcie was last seen atapproximately 11:00am in the vicinity of the 2400 block of Cumberland Pkwy. inMarietta, GA. She may be in the New York area. Foul play is suspected/Tattooapproximately 1" to 2" in height of a Chinese "symbol" onback of neck, tattoo of a Chinese "symbol" on mid to lower back,tattoo of the name "Carl" on upper left breast area/no DNA ordentals/photo shows no obvious gap, not mentioned either.
Bowie,Monica R. 07/05/2007 Atlanta, GA 34 was kidnapped from her parking deck on July 5, 2007 at approximately11:14pm at the Berkshire at Lenox Apartments at 2124 Gables Dr. NE, Atlanta,Georgia. A maroon 2002 Mercury Sable seen leaving the scene was located inAtlanta, abandoned and burned/DNA available/photos shows no gap but braces, notmentioned in casefile/pierced ears
Hobbs,Artdrunetta 8/10/2006 Atlanta, GA 23 was last seen at approximately4:00pm at her residence in the 2600 block of Butner Rd. in Atlanta, GA. Hervehicle is also missing/pierced tongue, tattoo AH/DNA and dentals available/photoshows no teeth, no gap mentioned.
Kelley,Newanna C. 06/08/2012 Atlanta, GA 41 to old 47/leaving her in/ Namus states age now 57 which is wrong/photoshows no teeth, not mentioning gap/DNA tests complete, no dentals

 

[Gardener1850]

Wondering if this could be Rosselys Felix Hernandez: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...lys-Felix-Hernandez-31-Jupiter-Nov-2016/page2

(Someone please submit if it seems possible, I'm only suggesting here, thanks)

To update my post above-- Cybervampira sent in the tip about Rosselys and has had good responses from authorities. I just realized the update was posted in Rosselys' thread but not here:

Originally Posted by cybervampira

Sheriff Gary Long from Butts County e-mailed me to say they are processing the lead regarding human remains found in the suitcase (which he calls promising).

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...z-31-Jupiter-Nov-2016&p=14065107#post14065107

 

[Bit of hope]

To update my post above-- Cybervampira sent in the tip about Rosselys and has had good responses from authorities. I just realized the update was posted in Rosselys' thread but not here:


https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...z-31-Jupiter-Nov-2016&p=14065107#post14065107

Not to go back and forth to other threads...this is Rosselys Facebookpage with her picture. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008256422474 She has clearly a gab between her front teeth. She is definitely not black African American, the least a mix.

 

[Gardener1850]

Not to go back and forth to other threads...this is Rosselys Facebookpage with her picture. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008256422474 She has clearly a gab between her front teeth. She is definitely not black African American, the least a mix.

No, not African American but she is from the Dominican Republic/Haiti -- her heritage could possibly be African and Hispanic. Her hair would be textured similar to African American hair, IMO. I believe she straightens her hair and colors it. Look at the texture of her daughter's hair from news stories: http://wgxa.tv/news/local/missing-t...e-pd-show-may-have-ties-to-georgia-04-17-2018
These remains were skeletal so they are only guessing at race. JMO.

 

[cybervampira]

Not to go back and forth to other threads...this is Rosselys Facebookpage with her picture. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008256422474 She has clearly a gab between her front teeth. She is definitely not black African American, the least a mix.

I think the race of a UID is not determined by the obvious appearance such as skin color but features such as mastoid process, teeth, hair (if there is any left), etc. Correct me if I‘m wrong, but I don‘t think NamUS has a „mixed race“ category. Either a UID is Caucasian, Black/African American, Asian, Native American, Other or Unsure. If they found features that pertain to African Americans only, wouldn‘t the person then be classified as such?

Maybe someone can answer this who is acquainted with forensic anthropology. AFAIK, most anthropologists recognize 3-4 basic races only.

 

[Bit of hope]

I think the race of a UID is not determined by the obvious appearance such as skin color but features such as mastoid process, teeth, hair (if there is any left), etc. Correct me if I‘m wrong, but I don‘t think NamUS has a „mixed race“ category. Either a UID is Caucasian, Black/African American, Asian, Native American, Other or Unsure. If they found features that pertain to African Americans only, wouldn‘t the person then be classified as such?

Maybe someone can answer this who is acquainted with forensic anthropology. AFAIK, most anthropologists recognize 3-4 basic races only.

Don't get me wrong...Off course Namus doesn't have a mixed race category, they have race and ethnicity or race only and ethnicity not filled in and unsure etc. I know how it works/know a lot about this. I meant to say I think MP is not solely Black/African American, this UID is stated like that.

 

[Bit of hope]

No, not African American but she is from the Dominican Republic/Haiti -- her heritage could possibly be African and Hispanic. Her hair would be textured similar to African American hair, IMO. I believe she straightens her hair and colors it. Look at the texture of her daughter's hair from news stories: http://wgxa.tv/news/local/missing-t...e-pd-show-may-have-ties-to-georgia-04-17-2018
These remains were skeletal so they are only guessing at race. JMO.

Thanks Gardener...if they don't know wouldn't they have said unsure, instead of Black African/American?

 

[cybervampira]

Don't get me wrong...Off course Namus doesn't have a mixed race category, they have race and ethnicity or race only and ethnicity not filled in and unsure etc. I know how it works/know a lot about this. I meant to say I think MP is not solely Black/African American, this UID is stated like that.

Yes. All I’m saying is I wouldn‘t rule her out, even if she isn‘t 100% African-American heritage. We don‘t know which features were examined to determine the race. If there were only bones and hair left (due to the fact that the body was in a suitcase for quite some time), they could easily classify the UID as African American.

 

[Gardener1850]

Thanks Gardener...if they don't know wouldn't they have said unsure, instead of Black African/American?

In my opinion they are always making an educated guess-- they cannot be 100% sure but they will put what race most appears to be to try to help get an ID. This is just my opinion, but based on her country's history Rosselys would have similar physical/skeletal make up to most African Americans. Most black people/African Americans are a mixture of Black and White peoples genetically, due to the history of slavery in this country. In the US the more likely guess if someone appears to be a mixture is going to be black/African American. Just my opinion. I have seen them make errors in this even when there is an intact body-- if the person has a medium skin tone the ME may guess Hispanic when the person was African American. Or they may guess AA when the person was Hispanic. Also, as you know BOH the skin color begins to change when someone dies. I think this also plays a part in making it hard to guess race when someone has a medium complexion. But these remains in the suitcase were skeletal so they may only have hair and shape of nose, teeth, jaw, etc to go by. JMO. I try to look at the teeth shape if we have a picture (these have a noticeable gap), the shape of the face/jaw and hair texture/original hair color more than going by the race identifier.

I hope they are able to get Rosselys' DNA for testing from her children that are still in foster care in Kentucky or from her family members in the Domincan Republic. Otherwise it may be a long wait to get these remains ID'd if this is her.

 

[Bit of hope]

Yes. All I’m saying is I wouldn‘t rule her out, even if she isn‘t 100% African-American heritage. We don‘t know which features were examined to determine the race. If there were only bones and hair left (due to the fact that the body was in a suitcase for quite some time), they could easily classify the UID as African American.

Hi, looking into other info you provided, yes this could be a possibility. Hopes up DNA can bet gathered.