GUILTY GA - Eight family members brutally murdered in Brunswick home, 29 Aug 2009

[oceanblueeyes]

But this juror voiced an opinion on this case before the trial was finished!

I am hoping he will be picked as an alternate.

This loose cannon doesn't need to serve on this case or any case.

They are clearly told NO ONE is to discuss the case nor come to any opinion before the entire case is heard.

And the thing is the DA cant appeal this if this loo-loo hangs the case like the defense can.

 

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12:25 p.m.

Judge Stephen Scarlett completed his charge to the 8-woman, 4-man jury about 12:45 p.m. and they left the courtroom for the jury room. Both the defense and prosecution approved the evidence about 2:15 p.m.

 

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You should email and ask the reporter if this guy ended up an alternate, OBE.

o/t I was stationed at New River while in the Marines.

 

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I'm hoping the bloody palm/fingerprint convinces them.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I'm hoping the bloody palm/fingerprint convinces them.

That plus combined with all of his bald face lies, biefuscu.

What innocent man lies about a dead man like he did West? I really feel sorry for this man and his family. I no more believe he sold GHJ crack than I believe he smoked pot with him like he said when no pot at all was found in West's system. That is reprehensible within itself when someone tries to smear a victim they viscously murdered. And then tries to lie his way out of why the bloody gun was in the vehicle he was driving that night.

It makes logical sense GHJ changed his clothing all except the black underwear and I agree with the ADA.........wherever the gun barrel is .......is where he threw away the clothing. There are countless places on St. Simons Island to ditch things where they are never found.

 

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Savannah Daily News ‏@SavDailyNews 3m In Guy Heinze murder trial, jury has asked to listen to the 911 call made by neighbor and watch the video of his interview at police dept.

 

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Tim Pulliam ‏@WJXTPulliam 1m Jury is back in courtroom. They requested to hear the 911 tapes again in #heinze trial. @wjxt4

 

[oceanblueeyes]

You should email and ask the reporter if this guy ended up an alternate, OBE.

o/t I was stationed at New River while in the Marines.

Wow ......that is so cool. Thank you for your service to our/your country.

I am not going to pester him anymore than I already have. I guess we will find out anyway eventually.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

By Terry Dickson





6:08 p.m.

About 5:40 p.m., the jury in Guy Heinze Jr.’s death penalty murder trial came back to the courtroom to review some evidence.

They saw a surveillance video from inside what was then the Bonaventure golf store on St. Simons Island that is now an Edwin Watts. A man walked up to the closed store, looked inside the front door and then left walking to the south. Another walked by from north to south but neither was clearly identifiable.

A coworker who lives to the north said Heinze told him he was going to walk the short distance to the Bonaventure to buy some clothes to wear when they went out that night. He said Heinze left in the afternoon and never came back.

Then the jury heard the 911 emergency call that Margaret Orlinski made to report the deaths. Orlinski was the closest neighbor of the mobile home where Heinze’s father, Guy Heinze Sr. and seven others were killed.

The call started about 8:15 a.m. with Orlinski telling the 911 operator of Heinze, “He just came screaming over.’’

“He said his dad is dead, Rusty’s dead, everybody’s dead,’’ Orlinski said.

Then Heinze got on the phone and said in slurred speech, “My whole family’s dead. It looks like they been beat, but I don’t know man,’’ Heinze said.

The jury then began watching Heinze’s long interview with Glynn County investigator Len Davis about 6 p.m.


Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...-heinze-jr-death-penalty-murder#ixzz2iaTP7FMX

 

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Savannah Daily News ‏@SavDailyNews 5m
Defense gets last word in Heinze murder trial. Jury asks to hear 911 call & interview. Defense has maintained both show Guy's innocence.

I don't like that.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Savannah Daily News ‏@SavDailyNews 5m
Defense gets last word in Heinze murder trial. Jury asks to hear 911 call & interview. Defense has maintained both show Guy's innocence.

I don't like that.

It depends. It seems someone wants to see what he said again and we know he says many lies in his interview.

It seems normal to ask for the 911 call and his interview.

So I am not worried............yet.

I wonder how long the Judge will let them go tonight?

I just saw a tweet that said everyone...including the families, are still in the courtroom watching the interview.

I hope after this they go to their rooms for the night and start again fresh in the morning.

I don't consider the suspect's interview as the last word for the defense. Interviews most often help the state and lets hope it does here.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

In his interview he lies about the gun that the state has proven beyond all doubt wasn't stolen.
In his interview he lies about smoking pot with Joe West.
In his interview he lies about purchasing crack from Joe West the first time because Joe West was found with no money on him.
In his interview he says he smokes a joint before calling 911.

So he tells LE before he even called for help he was busy stealing a gun out of the master bedroom closet and smoking a joint behind the car.

I hope they listen closely.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

http://members.jacksonville.com/new...-heinze-jr-death-penalty-murder#ixzz2iaTP7FMX

8 p.m.

The jurors finished viewing the longer of the two videotapes at 7:58 p.m. Judge Stephen Scarlett recessed court for dinner.

The longer videotape covered a lot of time and a lot of ground. As it played, Heinze sat looking down.

On it, investigator Len Davis asked Heinze about his whereabouts the night before and morning that his father and seven others were beaten to death at New Hope Mobile Home Park north of Brunswick.

Davis asked Heinze how blood got on the gym shorts he was found to be wearing under khaki shorts the morning the deaths were discovered.

Heinze said the only possibility he could think of was when he sat on a bed with Michael Toler, who was still alive.

Davis repeatedly asked Heinze about the 16 gauge shotgun that Heinze said he took out of the house and another shotgun in the house.

“There was supposed to be a 20 gauge in there but I don’t remember seeing it,’’ Heinze said.

The butt of the 20 gauge was lying in the floor with blood on it, but the barrel was never found.

Jurors heard Heinze say again he smoked “at least $100 worth of crack that night,’’ deny killing anyone and not knowing who could have killed his father and the seven others.

“No, no. … That was my family. It’s not possible,’’ he said, denying killing anyone.

 

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Glynn County District Attorney John Johnson points to blood on reversible shorts Heinze Jr. was wearing on the night of the slayings, fingerprints on a document inside a drawer, pills found in the car he was driving, and drugs in his system.

"It's not the perfect investigation according to Mr. Knox, who was paid to say that," Johnson said. "They have the gall to come in and say we won't beat up on law enforcement and then turn around and accuse the police of a criminal conspiracy against the defendant because they can't beat the evidence."

He stressed that their responsibility is to present evidence to prove within reasonable doubt a felony was committed.

"This evidence puts the defendant at the crime scene and there when it occurred," Johnson said. "The defense wants you to believe we rushed to judgement in this case. "That's not the case."

http://www.wtoc.com/story/23769008/state-gives-closing-arguments-in-ga-mobile-home-slayings-case

He pointed out Heinze Jr.'s palm print and fingerprint on a document in a drawer.

"Picture of a drawer pulled out and piece of paper in the drawer after the crime. How is the defendant's palm print and victims blood in the drawer if he wasn't there?" He asked.

Johnson said that wasn't discussed by crime scene analyst Michael Knox during testimony because they can't explain it away. Knox testified on Tuesday that the handling of the crime scene by police was botched.

Johnson said Heinze Jr. was looking for the drugs that wound up in the car he was driving and that no one really knows where he was from midnight to 5 a.m. on the night of the slayings.

"He is specific about what he does until 12:30 a.m. Then he doesn't get specific because he was drugged up. But at 5:30 he is specific about where he is again," Johnson said.

He pointed out that a drug dealer in the house who paid $65 for cocaine, but had no money in his pocket. He added that there was no cocaine marijuana in the house, and Heinze Jr. had it all in his system.

Johnson asked: "Why would a gang come in and attack nine people and kill eight of them and then search just one drawer?"

Johnson then ran through the events after the bodies were discovered that night and Heinze's actions thereafter.

He pointed out that if Heinze Jr. was so traumatized, yet he was still able to go into the house and get a shotgun out of the closet, which had blood spatter on it, and had enough common sense to get the gun and put it in the trunk of his car.

"The defendant is so traumatized he gets a gun out of the house because it is stolen?" he said. "Everybody thinks these people were shot, until the defendant tells us on a 911 call made by the neighbor."

Johnson said that in that call Heinze said his whole family is dead, but it looked as if they had been beaten to death.

"He knew they were beaten because he did it," Johnson said. "Before the police officers process anything, they find a cell phone with blood on the face of it - in the car Heinze is driving."

He continued to press that it was Heinze Jr. because he was familiar with the mobile home and not strangers who committed the crime.

Johnson said Heinze Jr. knew that mobile home and how to get around without turning lights on unlike gangsters, who wouldn't know.

"Is there any other evidence to go to any other person? Out of 60,000 people in Glynn - the only person wearing these clothes is the defendant. The only person with the phone; the only person who said my family was beat to death, the only person is that person right there," he said. "That is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That rules out everybody."

He told the jury: "Do your duty. Do justice. Do the right thing."

 

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Savannah Daily News ‏@SavDailyNews 14m
8:40 p.m. and jury is still out, still deliberating in the Guy Heinze Jr, murder trial in Brunswick. Guy's grandmothers & family still here.

 

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Savannah Daily News ‏@SavDailyNews 41s Jury quits for the night at 9 p.m. in Guy Heinze Jr, murder trial. Will resume at 9:00 a.m. in Brunswick.

 

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Savannah Daily News ‏@SavDailyNews 3m
Jury quits for the night at 9 p.m. in Guy Heinze Jr, murder trial. Will resume at 9:00 a.m. in Brunswick.

 

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9:05 p.m.

The jurors in Guy Heinze Jr.'s death penalty murder trial asked to stop deliberations at 9 p.m. Judge Stephen Scarlett said he would instruct the jurors to not discuss the case until they resume deliberations Thursday at 9 a.m.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

9:05 p.m.

The jurors in Guy Heinze Jr.'s death penalty murder trial asked to stop deliberations at 9 p.m. Judge Stephen Scarlett said he would instruct the jurors to not discuss the case until they resume deliberations Thursday at 9 a.m.

Goodnight everyone!:seeya:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Good morning everyone!:seeya:

I pray that today the Toler and Heinz family gets justice that has been a long time coming. I hope there are critical thinkers on this jury and those filled with common sense. The one kooky juror still bothers me. I would hate to see this case be hung because of one loose cannon who has refused to uphold his oath.

The evidence that has been entered cant be explained away as being benign. If he really did go in and sit on Michael's bloody bed then there is no reason his bloody palm and pinkie finger bloody print would be found inside of a drawer, imo. Imo, after murdering them all he was rummaging through the drawer to look for MTs painkillers.

He has the victims blood on the cell phone he took and found inside of the vehicle he was driving.
He has the gun that has blood spatter of a victim on it found in that same car.
He has spots of blood on the gray side of the underwear consisting of multiple victims.
The floor in Rusty and Michael's room was covered in blood yet he had no blood on the soles of his sandals and only on the top.
He lied about the gun being stolen.
He lied when he said he smoked pot with Joe West.
He said he gave West money for crack earlier in the day yet West had no money.
He told his coworker he was going to buy some new clothes to wear.
He is in a vehicle that no one had ever seen him drive by himself.
He is the one that had pot, Michael's drugs, and crack when he was drug tested.
That trailer was filled and a confusing maize from where everyone slept. No 'drug dealer" would know where everyone was and which ones to attack first. Only the man that lived there would know the sleeping habits of the victims. GHJ slept on the floor in Rusty and Michael's room. He knew exactly where everyone slept.

LE certainly has but him at the scene of the crime as it was happening now I hope the jurors do the right thing and give justice to all of these people who were killed by this raging crackhead monster.