GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #2

[noseynellie]

I've been following here but haven't commented yet.
The place she inquired about on that Friday. The 18th? What if that was what she was trying to map on her phone? Maybe she went to check out an apartment and that's where something went wrong? Maybe she had an appointment to see it early Saturday morning?
I know that doesn't explain that tapestry thing, but the time frame might line up.



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It was for a 3/2 in Virginia Highlands/Morningside area. The post was made on the 17th and Jenna responded on the 18th that she was very interested.

She has also responded to another post on there a few days earlier (on the 14th) telling others to message her and that she was looking for a room.

Guessing Subie has seen these since he has access to her Facebook and he can see if the people ever responded and set anything up for a meeting.

I'm wondering if her desire to move was caused by anything specific at that apartment. I know we've been told it was only supposed to be temporary but yet also she was on the lease. I wonder if the other person there would've been inconvenienced by her moving out or if there was any disagreement over it.


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[codesleuth]

There's also a park near where her car was found with a wildlife area no one goes in and some back fields that are basically never used. There is also some construction going on with some houses in the surrounding streets and such and an abandoned building or two on defoor. Lots of places to search in the area.

Also (I would encourage no one to act in any way on this information but subie if he feels so lead), only one of the young women Jenna messaged on the atlanta housing group is now her friend. Quick search of the group for Jenna's name yields 3 posts by her, each to a different woman looking for a roommate. One is now her friend. Just curious as to what that exchange was like or what Jenna shared with her.
Hoping she's found quickly.

 

[kdhith]

Hey guys has anyone on here organized a search party before? I've had a few requests to get one going.

Some areas we can check
1) Area where car was found
2) Around her apartment
3) Around parents neighborhood

The area around the car might be more important,
I think we still need to figure out if this was her destination or if someone had found her car, went for a joy ride and left it there

I would definitely be interested/willing, if you were to arrange this. FB messaged you, re: Lenox Mall.

 

[sugarbritches]

I am a local as well. I am very familiar with the area. Please count me in on any future searches!

 

[PigPong]

Hey guys has anyone on here organized a search party before? I've had a few requests to get one going.

Some areas we can check
1) Area where car was found
2) Around her apartment
3) Around parents neighborhood

The area around the car might be more important,
I think we still need to figure out if this was her destination or if someone had found her car, went for a joy ride and left it there

My wife typically works weekends and I have our daughters but I'd be willing to help. I would just need to shuffle things around.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

A 5 mile radius is a huge area! I didn't realize.
This should show the map, I may not be linking it correctly.

https://earth.google.com/web/@33.79882731,-84.42730816,267.71193224a,61310.13640984d,35y,0h,0t,0r


I can't figure out how to share the radius.
http://obeattie.github.io/gmaps-radius/?lat=33.857629&lng=-84.464206&z=10&u=mi&r=5

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[Shiressleuth]

Okay I get what you're saying, but then why was her car found... but not her???

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She may have met with someone intending harm while looking for a new place. The other inquiries that have just been found seem to indicate that she was actively looking.
Great sleuthing Nellie BTW and welcome to all new posters.
It is really encouraging to see this new lead on an apartment and the interest in searching.

 

[Shiressleuth]

It was for a 3/2 in Virginia Highlands/Morningside area. The post was made on the 17th and Jenna responded on the 18th that she was very interested.

She has also responded to another post on there a few days earlier (on the 14th) telling others to message her and that she was looking for a room.

Guessing Subie has seen these since he has access to her Facebook and he can see if the people ever responded and set anything up for a meeting.

I'm wondering if her desire to move was caused by anything specific at that apartment. I know we've been told it was only supposed to be temporary but yet also she was on the lease. I wonder if the other person there would've been inconvenienced by her moving out or if there was any disagreement over it.


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Morningside area doesn't seem too far from some of the gas station stops. Perhaps she was checking out the area?

 

[Bit of hope]

New info added in red text/former time-line incorporated, including info from thread 1 & 2 so far.

Help FindJenna Van Gelderen Facebook page – https://www.facebook.com/HelpFindJennaVG/

Jenna, 25years old, 4”11’, 140 lbs, long dark hair, pierced ears. Address; 2255 LenoxRoad. Atlanta PD Zone 2 DeKalb county. ‘Lenox Woods apartments’, living right betweenthe areas Buckhead and Midtown. She didn’t have contact lenses. She only woreglasses and didn't need them all the time. Per VI - Thread #1, post #115
Missingfrom Parents house; address; (per Help Find Jenna FB page - link)1289, Oakdaleroad, Atlanta. Druid Hills home, GA. DeKalb county, GA. Near Emory UniversityIn fact it is not sure if she went missing from her parents’ house. added byme.
About herliving space/apartment ‘She would never tell us this address, we only found outthrough the P.I and the police. According to them she is on the lease. Prior wedidn't know this and though she was just staying on a friend's couch accordingto what she had told us. Per VI - Thread #1, post #316. She had a maleroommate, per VI - Thread #1, post #150. At what moment in time she signed thelease contract for this apartment? Is the roommate just staying/living there orwas he also on the lease?
How long has she been gone from home? (before she wentmissing) If Irecall it was around april or may she moved out of parents house, living onppls couches. Per VI - Thread #1, post #996 Jenna moved out to live on her ownin March, family members say. A Gwinnett Tech graduate, Jenna is usually indaily contact with her parents or brother according to. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/missing-in-america/missing-georgia-woman-jenna-van-gelderen-s-vehicle-found-she-n802306
Distancebetween her apartment and parents address: 3 miles
She hadbeen seeing a career coach / counselor every week as well to help get her ontrack to finding a new job and working with her mental illness /minor autism tohelp with work skills. Per VI - Thread #1, post #160 J Thelast time she talked to the counselor was that Monday <before she went missing> she couldn't recall anything strange. T2, # 96,VI. Not awareof <Jenna wasusing> any meds T2 # 15 VI Jenna is inthe autism spectrum; has a form of high-functioning autism. Can easily bemanipulated and doesn't realize what she is doing is bad. However she alwaysalways said that she would never do drugs and would say it in a pretty bigtone. Per VI - Thread #1, post #166
Jennahas one bank account. A credit report was done, no other bank accounts or newcredit cards had been opened in her name as of now T2 # 110 VI
Parentsaddress on the drivers license. Per VI - Thread #1, post #321. Jenna&#8217;s passportkept by parents at the bank. Per VI - Thread #1, post #307
Jenna usedtwo phones; Iphone/T-mobile (in a family plan,parents account, she used this phone to call family and friends) and another(unknown by family but later found out (foundMetro-account info at parents house), per VI - Thread #1, post #51) aMetro pcs number/Android phone. (her own plan,family is not sure where she used it for, per VI - Thread #1, post #96)registered under another name Ruth Jenna, per VI - Thread #1, post #988 Confusion.middle name Ruth as her first and Jenna as her last. I didn't realize serviceproviders allowed you to do this. Per VI - Thread #1, post #988. According tothis post by another member a Metro phone is prepaid, no contract and no creditcheck needed. Don&#8217;t ask for ID. &#8220;If I'd paid cash I could have given any name&#8221;. T1 #1027 WS member. HeriPhone just had Google Hangouts / Google voice on it (found via itunes store ) Accordingto her friends they mostly used Google Hangouts or Google Voice. Nothingunusual from those that we could tell. Her android phone is the one it seemsshe mostly used for contacting some of these shady people T2 # 105 VI I Overthe course of the past 2 years had downloaded well over 10 different textingapps. I'm not talking about the obvious ones most of the ones she downloadedwere small unknown ones like TextmeUP. I&#8217;ve tried getting into each one, butthey do not sync messages from each device to the next. So it&#8217;s virtuallyimpossible right now to see which one she had been using recently or if she waseven still using any of them.T2 #88 VI.
Jenna&#8217;s carwas spotted in South Carolina in July 2017. Her ties with that: She frequentlywent up to South Carolina (believed by VI to be in Greenville area - Thread #1,post #353) to babysit for a friend. Have spoken to said friend several timesand she is one of her best friends, per VI - Thread #1, post #326 = Person 5, her good friend from S.C. she babysit for Per VIT2 # 324
Rumorsabout Jenna being a sex worker have never been confirmed, per VI - Thread #1,post #328. According to parents this was said by a disgruntled ex-boyfriend.Per MSM - LINK and VI - Thread #1, post #389 Againbrought up in a tv-interview on with parents on CNN d.d.9-19-2017/9-20-2017 &#8216;They are sayingthat boyfriend told them, I'll quote the police report, advised this officerthe reason he was no longer wanting to associate with her was because he hadrecently found out she was selling her body for money. Now that also soundslike someone who is trying to maybe come up with an excuse as to why hewouldn't want to be around her anymore, but then the police say that herbrother also said something that corroborated that. Still strictly rumours&#8230;media making a story.
Rumorsabout Jenna going missing before are not true according to the parents. &#8220;Never,absolutely never - never disappeared,&#8221; Jenna&#8217;s father said. &#8220;If she ever wentto South Carolina, that&#8217;s the furthest she's ever gone. We knew where she wasgoing, who she was going tobe with and she was always in contact with us.&#8221; PerMSM - LINK. http://www.11alive.com/news/local/missing-in-georgia/family-slams-police-report-allegedly-calling-their-missing-daughter-a-prostitute/469439051
About herpersonal life; stories we have been given by her friends keep changing, but shehid a lot from us and even her friends. Per VI - Thread #1, post #974
August 3, 2016
&#8226; Last public post of Jenna's on her own Facebook account, post is aboutlooking for a job &#8211; LINK https://www.facebook.com/jenna.vangelderen/posts/2793943123765
January &#8211; March 2017
&#8226;We tracked this phone number I found on metro to a number that showedup a lot Jan - March and then died off around when she said it was finished .Was also around the time of the supposed theft. Per VI - Thread #1, post #165
February 2017
&#8226;She had a job back in Feb at the pet store but we found out through afriend she had been fired for theft at the store. Which is really not like her.Per VI - Thread #1, post #160
&#8226;We foundout large sums of money had been taken in total from various times from herregister. She was arrested, and through the court case, we were able to havethe sentence reduced to a misdemeanor. She would not tell us where the moneywent and that she was "framed" by a manager. I am starting to thinkthat maybe she did do this and paid one of these guys with the money. Per VI -Thread #1, post #160 Person 4: Another guy, that wehave discovered that used to come into the store, demanding money and otherthings from Jenna. Found out she had been paying this guy through western unionabout $1100 over the course of 2-3 years, met him in college. However, allphone activity and payments stopped like 4 months ago. I have a feeling thisguy is connected to her store incident Per VI T2, # 324.
&#8226;This kindof behavior was labeled as uncharacteristic for Jenna.
&#8226;The casewas nixed/settled, by negotiation and labeled as &#8216;disorderly conduct&#8217; only.
&#8226;A friendwas able to confirm that she back in Feb was on and off with another guy whowas violent, but again she would not tell us who and that it was done and neverhappening again. Per VI - Thread #1, post #165. Does one of her friends know this person?
&#8226;It appearsin February she switched to a new email for her Apple ID which we do not have.Per VI - Thread #1, post #365
August 14,2017
&#8226;Jennabecame a member of Atlanta Housing group. On August 14, 2017, Jenna reacted onpost of somebody asking for a roommate, planning to move in September 2017.Send me a message <name> ASAP. On questions about the neighborhood thegirl&#8217;s post asking for a roommate; "Jenna was living right between thosetwo areas (Buckhead and Midtown)&#8221; per a local member's post
August 15Tuesday, 16 Wednesday
&#8226;Parentsleft for Canada on Tuesday 15th per VI - Thread #1, post #958. Jenna agreed onhouse sitting. When did Jennaarrive? With her car? Did she meet her parents before they left? Was she ok? Parentsleft for Canada on Tuesday 15[SUP]th[/SUP] T1 #966 VI. Jenna agreed on house sitting and watch over theold dear cat. The cat needs medicine/is ill. Laundry list <of things wrongwith the cat>, but mostly old age (21) and some infections. Per VI - Thread#1, post #971
&#8226;Parentswere planning to stay in Canada until August 26, per VI - Thread #1, post #32
&#8226;Per VI -Thread #1, post #32, Jenna told vet and brother she would be there all weekend.Because she didn&#8217;t dare to give the medicine to the cat she was very attachedto, so vet could help her giving the medicine. Arrangement werebrother helping a.m., vet p.m. ? &#8220;We know she would have worked with meand the vet assistant (who didn't have a key to the house) if she had plannedto leave&#8221; per VI - Thread #1, post #32. Did she plan to leave. Did she had a tendency of doing that?
August 17,Thursday
&#8226;She hadsome friends over for a small get together I believe Thursday night and didn'tclean up the rooms upstairs. This info came out later from a friend that wasover there. Right now we know of Jenna and 2 others that were at the house forsure that night. Trying to find out who else may have been there. Per VI -Thread #1, post #819
August 18,Friday
&#8226;Throughaccess d.d. 8/31 on her e-mail and Facebook on family finds out on whatlocations she was and which locations she searches for on google maps timeline,so the following timeline are bits and peace&#8217;s of information found during thissearch, getting more specific during this thread and put in a logical order:
? a.m.
&#8226;I was atthe house Friday a.m to give the cat her meds, I remember seeing the car<Jenna&#8217;s car> there. Sorry guys I forgot I had muted this for a bit whenI was working on my job hunting. Per VI - Thread #1, post #804. I saw herFriday A.M that was that last time I saw her. Per VI - Thread #1, post #823. Inwhat state she was in? She seemed fine, no indication anything was out of theordinary, per VI - Thread #1, post #973. At what time? Were the friends alreadygone? Was mom&#8217;s car at the house? Didn't notice. My mom's car stays in theexternal garage in the back, where as Jenna's was in a visible parking spot inthe back. Per VI - Thread #1, post #841
2 p.m.
&#8226;Yes, medswere given that <Friday> afternoon. The vet assistant came by around 2 pmI believe. He did not have a key to the house either so Jenna had to be thereto let him in. Per VI -Thread #1, post #808. Has anyone talked to the vet aboutwhat she and the house seemed like?
4/5 p.m.
&#8226;Brother talked with Jenna on thephone that evening to confirm everything was ok for the rest of the weekend T1 #823 VI; At what time was this call made?,Per VI - Thread #1, post #825 Yes, I believe I spoke to her around 4-5 pm(vague memory on that) Brother does not know if she was at home <meaning at the parents&#8217; home> Can&#8217;t you look at your own phone when youmade the call? My phone log on on my phone only goes back to the 25th of Aug ,per VI - Thread #1, post #,so brother can&#8217;t check exactly what time he called.

6 p.m.
Person 6 T2#324 Girlfriend was with Jenna that dayand took an Uber taxi home, before Jenna went out again. T2 #84 #84 VI Uber-girlfriend was with Jenna around 6 p.m. The PI is going to speak againwith this girl friend again tomorrow to see if can nail down when she leftJenna exactly. T2 #540 VI. Whyshe took a taxi, why did Jenna not bring her home? There were two cars available?

8-10 p.m.
&#8226;She was also in contact with oneother guy = person 3 that night on and ofbetween 8 and 10pm. From interviews with him. He advised her not to come to hispart of town (college Park) with my mom's car, and that he would meet her closerto her apartment. According to him she never showed. Per VI - Thread #1, post#823
&#8226;Person 3 T2 # 324 VI Is another guy friend she was supposed tomeet with Friday night in College Park but was told not come down with my Momscar, would meet her around Lindbergh area, but she never showed. This is theguy that I found with the Instagram profile that lead me to believe some kindof pimping or trafficking might be going on. He called twice at 11 and 11. 50that night (pocket dials). From interviews with him, according VI. At what time did they supposed tomeet up and where, around Lindbergh area seem pretty big to find somebody.
&#8226;I was able to access the voice mailearlier on it and found a pocket dial at 11.50 pm Friday. I have given thenumber to our p.i. I have been able to locate that number tied to an Instagramaccount with references to pimping and clubs on Cambelton Rd. Per VI - Thread#1, post #133. The number for the pocket dial was tied to an Instagram accountas well that leads me to believe something more is up. Also metro pcs number aswell. Any follow through? Don't know anymore on that. Who ever it was thatcalled at 11:30 left a 2 min long voice mail and their phone was in theirpocket. The Insta account that I found tied to that number and several ads thatset off an alarm that said person may be a pimp. However have heard nothingmore from police on this. Per VI - Thread #1, post #1102. Metro PCS line,pocket dial so it was just random sounds. Per VI - Thread #1, post #1107 The &#8226;Instagrammentioned above is not Jenna's Instagram. Per VI - Thread #1, post #189
&#8226;The family sent the P.I. to thataddress <townhome> and he talked to the guy there. How did the family know about thisguy in the first place? He said they had plans to meet for food but shenever made it down there. Older info.

? p.m.?
&#8226;Searched for an address on Googlepromptly after. We knowshe specifically searched for that town home address that Wednesday (could this be a typo?) and when Isearch more on her timeline that is the address that shows up (not her aptspecifically). It is a gated community (townhome) but it is literally behindher apt. Is this theex-boyfriends apartment? If she searched for it on Wednesday why search itagain as it was so close. I think she would remembered it where it was. Orcould somebody else have searched for it with her phone?

10 p.m.
&#8226;We know Friday night she had beenin contact with this person of interest = Person 1. T2# 324 = Ex boyfriend, she broke up with in February via texting / calling / and seeinghim. According to him she came to his apartment Approx. 10 pm. Per VI - Thread#1, post #823. Where does thisperson live? Is it in the neighborhood/Area of English Ave? The place Jennastopped at 10 pm does not add up with the statement of the POI&#8217;s that she wasat his address at 10 a.m., because it is in a different area. &#8226;Olderinformation; Friend known now = Person 1. T2 # 324 talkedto her briefly before she left (towhere?) By media &#8230;.he told the police. Friday night she had left afriends place to come home (what is home mean, her parents&#8217; house or her ownapartment) around 11 pm, in mother's car. Why in mother&#8217;s car? (per VI - Thread#1, post #32). He claims she wanted a relationship but he did not knowing thetheft issue. Per VI - Thread #1, post #165.
&#8226;Person 1: POI from lastthread, was her "ex" as mentioned last night. The one we know haddriven her car at one point. Was a security person at her old job Per VI T2 #324

? p.m. ?
&#8226;New info found on 9/1, Thread #1,post #462 VI stated they had found information that she drove from townhomedown to midtown&#8230;Driving from there <town home> Ex-boyfriendsapartment? down to midtown (14th and Crecsent Ave) which is near Operanight club. If she didn&#8217;t goto the Opera night club, where was she going, what could be another destinationin that area? We do not know any more on this, VI.

?
&#8226;This peace of the timeline isunsure; did she or did she notdrive to the Lindbergh area and met up with person 3 for food, as he stated shedidn&#8217;t show up. Reply by VI - Thread #1, post #829: At this pointhonestly I don't know. The police were supposed to check this town home butwon't tell me what they have found. The odd thing is the town home like I saidis behind her apt.
&#8226;The family sent the p.i to thataddress <townhome> and he talked to the guy there. He said they had plansto meet for food but she never made it down there. Per VI - Thread #1, post#408. At what time did theyhad an appointment? What kind of relationship they had? Where is this townhome and isthere in any way to prove that she (didn&#8217;t) went there (by phone signal,witness?)

10 p.m. ?
&#8226;Per Google maps timeline; per VI -Thread #1, post #848, she stopped in the Area of English Avenue (North andNorthside Drive) for about 5-6 minutes around 10 pm. Regarding English Ave stopalso mentioned: No specifics only Google maps Timeline. Google maps timelineshows she drove to Wendy&#8217;s. Inwhich car? The place Jenna stopped at 10 pm does not add up with the statementof the POI that she was at his address at 10 pm., because it is in a differentarea.

10:30 p.m.
&#8226;We believe so as averified friend has spoken to her that night late around 1030 and he recallsher driving my mom's car. Per VI - Thread #1, post #604 Is it possible to pinpoint where he saw her?

11.00 p.m.
&#8226;Pocket Dialfrom Person 3, T2 # 324 VI By voicemail on Metro pcs Jenna. Number (also a metro pcs number) is tied to anInstagram account with references to pimping and clubs on Cambelton Rd .

11.30 p.m.
&#8226;After that noactivity, all activity end on 11.30 p.m. Meaning google maps timeline? This hasto be switched off then. Added by me. Per VI - Thread #1, post #404 &Thread #1, post #406

Ca. 11.45 -12.00 a.m
&#8226;She had also been in contact withher friend in S.C = person 5 T2 # 324 VI around 11:45 pm
&#8226;Another friend = person 5 said she had a conversation with VanGelderen. From media on Saturday <after Friday12 pm> So at present itseems the SC friend was the last to speak to J at 11.45 p.m. /12.00 approx. TheLE has spoken to the S.C. friend, as well as the p.i and my parents. She didnot know where Jenna was. Per VI - Thread #1, post #839 Did she tell what was discussed?

? p.m.?
&#8226;Seen with an unidentified malepassenger in her mother&#8217;s car. Per flyer on Help Find Jenna Van Gelderen FBpage (LINK) https://www.facebook.com/HelpFindJennaVG/posts/114525529221725
and post (LINK) https://www.facebook.com/HelpFindJennaVG/posts/114445735896371
By whom, where and what time?


11:30 p.m. &#8211; 1:30 a.m.
&#8226;We know a littleafter this she has gone to that Wendys then back to either her apartment orthis town home I mentioned earlier. It is right behind her apartment. Could beGoogle error. Per VI - Thread #1, post #823 We assume she made it back toparents house somewhere between 1130 and 130 am. Again I don't know on this asher timeline activity dies around then with her going down to midtown. So we donot know for sure what happened around then. Per VI - Thread #1, post #823 &#8226;Timeline activityoff after going down to midtown. Family does not know if she went back to thehouse and if she did on what time, with or without somebody and if and when sheleft again with her own car and ifsomebody else was with her. Post T2 #53 VI
&#8226;According to everyoneshe had returned to my parents place that night. Per VI - Thread #1, post #308 How do they know that?

11.50 a.m.
&#8226; By voicemail onMetro pcs Jenna: pocket dial fromsomebody. Number (also a metro pcs number) is tied to an Instagram account withreferences to pimping and clubs on Cambelton Rd = Person3

1.30 a.m.
&#8226;IPhone onTmobile going into power saving mode around 1:30 am as all tracking info seemsto stop then. On her iPhone, it appears she had iCloud tracking off as well asGoogle Time Line not enabled from the get go. Post T2 #53 VI

2 a.m.
&#8226;Jenna had sent a textto a friend Person 5 T2 # 324 VI (T-mobile account, to baby-sit friend in South Carolina)saying &#8216;Laying down&#8217; She <the S.C. friend> has not seen her either upthat way. Per VI - Thread #1, post #32 & Thread #1, post #183. Why they hadcontact that late? Per VI - Thread #1,post #186, they were always in contact through texts even late at night , butshe was never informed by Jenna of her whereabouts. It is not a fact that Jennatext this message herself, could have done by somebody else having her phone.Add by me.
&#8226;Troughmedia was said that person 5 was underway to Jenna&#8230;.was said quoted byex-boyfriend. She <person 5> hadnever mentioned to us about coming down to that day and it&#8217;s not in the report,so really not sure where that came from.

Debit card use duringFriday, Aug 18
4 stops atgas stations Is there any info on what she purchased &#8230;info from debit card, howmuch money was taken? Are there CCTV footages? In what car? Per MSM - LINK, afamily-friend posted on the Help Find Jenna Facebook page. The last placesJenna used her debit card on Friday, Aug 18:
- Texaco @ N Decatur Rd
- DeKalb Industrial Chevron @ Cheshire Bridge
- 11.pm. LaVista Wendy's @ 1940 Piedmont Roadshe was at the gas station at Lavista and Cheshire Bridgearound 11PM, info fromFacebooksite. Also mentioned earlier in the thread Cheshire and Lavista road, BP? I guess this is very near to Wendy&#8217;s. Also an exit toLindbergh. Did she might have planned to see person 3 after all? &#8230;arethese names all refer to the same approx. location? Per VI - Thread #1, post#825: with regards to any of the gas stations that were mapped earlier we donot have any more info on those. The only thing really confirmed is thatWendy's based on the straw wrapper in my mom's car / passenger seat pushedback.
- Chevron @ N Decatur Rd & Clairemont
Is there any info on what she persuaded &#8230;info fromdebet card, how much money was taken? Are there CCTV footages? Was there a carseen?
&#8226;GoogleMaps Timeline can be inaccurate, per this member's post. Seems like the area isvery unlikely to loose signals, but&#8230;.also you have to put on &#8216;Location History&#8217;in Google Maps Timeline before it registered your whereabouts through a deviceand you can add/change it yourself. Per another member's post.
&#8226;Per MSM -LINK, Jenna talked to her mother twice a day. Also on august 18th? Or wereparents traveling on that day? How was contact with mother made, by phone,Facebook, did she came to parents house twice a day, other way?
&#8226;According to VI - Thread #1, post #412, theFBI talked to this townhome guy and his story was checked out. I really wonderwhat this story is&#8230;. Open question stays why is FBI involved, does familyknows?
&#8226;The phonenumber of the townhome guy <ex-boyfriend, person 1> seems not the same asthe pocket call number <person 3>. Per VI - Thread #1, post #414
&#8226;She wasdriving in her mums car that evening a dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010). Per VI -Thread #1, post #462: We also know that she was in my mom&#8217;s cars is this a typoor does mum own more than one car? most of that night, so she had to have comeback (with someone we assume) to have the cars switched. What was the reasonshe used mums car? We are still trying to piece together why Jenna was drivingmy mom's car Friday, like if she loaned hers to a friend etc. We still do notknow, however police never finger printed it. Per VI - Thread #1, post #594

 

[Bit of hope]

New info added in red text. This post is including all info from thread 1 and 2 so far


August 19,Saturday

•Brothercalled at around 9:30 am to Jenna. I tried calling her that morning and her phone rang then went tovoice mail. Had assumed she was sleeping in.
•Thevet/assistant came to the house Saturday morning at ? a.m., Jenna not there anddoor was locked. She had told both of us she was going to be around all weekend Per VI - Thread #1, post #815 He <the vet> tried to callJenna and the phone was dead. Alsono voicemail anymore? At what time did the vet arrived at the parent’s house oralarmed brother and parents The door was locked and he <the vet>? I wassupposed to come by only that Saturday a.m, is this a mix up in days ? but not the rest of theweekend due to other plans Per VI - Thread #1, post #1100. We didn't know thatmorning she was missing for sure . My parents and I both got calls from the vetassistant that he wasn't able to get in and her phone was now dead.
•Brothergoes to parents house, arrives there at 10.30 am (Per VI - Thread #1, post#160), to give the cat meds. (from flyer and posts brother) Came by the houseand she was not there and then assumed she may have just run out quickly for anerrand.
•Laterbrother noticing both phones are gone from the parents’ house and off. Going straight to voicemail or completely dead? It wasn't until that night (Saturday)when he was at a wedding that they realized something was wrong, per VI -Thread #1, post #817
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/missing-in-america/missing-georgia-woman-jenna-van-gelderen-s-vehicle-found-she-n802306 According to this article her so called friendshe was going to meet on the 19[SUP]th[/SUP] mentioned in the media is confusing. I think that they mean afamily-friend, namely the vet.
Interviewwith Family http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb-county/missing-dekalb-county-woman-disappeared-while-housesitting/599493475
•Jenna notat the house
•Doorlocked (deadbolt was locked, per VI - Thread #1, post #608)
•No sign offorced entry
•TV-on
•Lights on
•Charger atthe house
•Pair ofshoes at the house
•Jenna’scar gone (2010, Blue Mazda 6 sedan, license plate PWH5029, Noticeable scratcheson driver side, dent on top of the trunk, and missing cross bar on the frontgrille) Is the car listed as stolen by now?
•Jenna’sphone and purse not at the house
•Motherscar at home (dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010)
•House in somedisarray what kind? Jenna had people over Thursday night for a get together androoms upstairs were not cleaned up, per VI - Thread #1, post #819
•Noevidence of struggle
•Tapestry(moreof an Egyptian khayamiya, as a WS member suggested) missing (It was an Egyptiantapestry / buffet cover from around WWII.) Never had been appraised so don'tknow the worth, but it’s a very odd thing to take. Per VI - Thread #1, post #53
•It is frommy Grandfather / WWII era. It’s not something we ever really talked about. ButI do know that it was quite faded, and had a lot of birds on it. Retrieving itisn't so much important, but rather if anyone had tried to sell it to a pawnshop / craigslist in the past few days. Per VI - Thread #1, post #154
•Thetapestry that is missing is part of a set 2x end table covers (what is <thepicture> posted <and shown in this video>) and a buffet cover that wasframed. The buffet cover is what is missing and very similar to this <thepicture posted> Per VI - Thread #1, post #131. Approx. 2 feet by five feet(approx. 61 cm x 152 cm)
•Tapestrywas in a heavy frame, carefully removed by breaking a small piece of the glassand frame hung back on the wall. The frame definitely takes 2 people to putback up. Glass on the frame appears to have been cleaned as well, very odd.Taken from frame, sharper picture available is a same kind of cloth but not theitem itself, per VI - Thread #1, post #53
•I shouldmention on that picture frame, the missing piece of glass was still on theframe when I found it. It fell out when we and the police took the frame downto inspect and due to safety kept it off. Per VI - Thread #1, post #262
•What aboutthe missing suitcase? Suitcase found later in trunk ofJenna’s car, info further on in this post When did the parents noticethat a suitcase was missing? That's so weird because my parents were the onesthat noticed the suit case gone 2 days later from when I gave the statement.I've been a little aggravated today that our statements are not right and thustransferring to the media, per VI - Thread #1, post #279. How big was thesuitcase? Big enough to transfer a person in? What do you think she took in thesuitcase? Do you know the dimensions please? (Height width and length, colour,make, fabric etc) Did she bring the missing suitcase with her or was it in thehouse? What about a suitcase or bag she brought over for her housesitting forthe two week period. Don't have an answer to any of this as stated. My parentsnoticed it <the suitcase> was gone. Per VI - Thread #1, post #1108.Honestly, don't know and my parents were going to check on this. Per VI -Thread #1, post #1092
•AboutJenna’s clothes missing or left at parents’ house; some clothes were at myparents still and some were given back to us from her apartment. No idea whatall she took if anything in that suitcase. Per VI - Thread #1, post #1089
Mostof her clothes, shoes and other stuff was found in the trunk of the car, excepta light green T-Shirt “San Antonio” Jenna was wearing during the day on Friday 9/18. Now next part is thatmy parents bought Jenna a green T shirt from San Antonio on their lastVacation. Jenna had been wearing that shirt that week, and can confirm from hergirlfriend that Jenna was wearing that Friday night before changing to go backout. We do not see this shirt in her stuff in the car, in her room at myparents nor from the stuff at the apartment. So I'm thinking maybe she put thisback on late Friday / early Saturday morning before she disappeared T2 #540 VI.
•Noactivity on social media accounts, bank accounts, phone….. (since the day shedisappeared)……after ? could family, LE established a time?
•Bothphones (T-mobile and Metro pcs) are missing and off.
•Toiletriesand what not were still in the bathroom, per VI - Thread #1, post #53
•WereJenna’s glasses found in parents’ house?
•Throughaccess on her mails and Facebook on 8/31 family finds out that on 8/19 therewas no activity.
August 20,Sunday 2017
•It wasn'tuntil that night <Saturday/Sunday> when I was at a wedding that werealized something was wrong. Per VI - Thread #1, post #817
•Sundaythey helped me (from Canada) to begin the process of the missing personsreport. Per VI - Thread #1, post #817
•It was onSunday also that I had just noticed the tapestry missing. Per VI - Thread #1,post #817
•Reportedmissing by brother
August 21,22, 23, 24
•Family isfinding more out about the apartment /address Jenna lived/stayed through P.I.and LE. Family is trying to find out about roommate….He doesn’t want to workwith family. Says no to parents, per VI - Thread #1, post #193
•Maleroommate says no access to the apartment. Told the family they need a warrant,per VI - Thread #1, post #173. Who is this person and why have difficulties?How did Jenna get acquainted with this person and decide to live with him? Wereally know nothing on this apartment or how she met that guy that lives there.We had asked her several times where she was staying and all she ever mentionedis that a "friend" was letting her crash on the couch. Per VI -Thread #1, post #994
•We justdon't know on this. We tried to have her <Jenna> tell us but she wouldnot. Really starting to wonder about him as well and if he may be tied tosomething in this. Per VI -Thread #1, post #150
•Distancebetween her apartment and the pet store she worked at in February 2017 is a 6minute walk.
Idont know anything about him <roommate>, he wouldn't talk to us much.Just said he told Jenna it was only supposed to be temporary until she found abetter place T2 #299 VI
August 25, Friday
•Brothertalks to police about access to Jenna’s apartment. Her roommate won't allow usto, need the local police to go over there, but it’s been a week now and theystill have not spoken to the roommate (according to them Friday) per VI onSunday - Thread #1, post #147

August 26, Saturday
•Familygets news that she is found that night, but it turned out to be not correct.Per VI - Thread #1, post #32. Parents planned to come home "thisSaturday" but returned earlier.

August 27, Sunday
•We have afew neighbors that have videos from their systems pointed at the street,unfortunately nothing directly on our street. Per VI - Thread #1, post #102

August 28, Monday
•Thismorning with this new info it seems so now they are taking it more seriously<checking apartment Jenna, strange behavior roommate> per VI - Thread #1,post #180
August 29, Tuesday
•CandlelightVigil for Jenna Van Gelderen 7:30 PM ·Congregation Shearith Israel - Atlanta ·Atlanta, GA – http://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrael.com/jewish-atlantan-25-missing-since-aug-19/
•Apartmenthas not been searched as far as I know unless done today. Per VI - Thread #1,post #290
•Apartmentis not in the same LE jurisdiction as the parents’ home (DeKalb and FultonCounty)
August 30,Wednesday
•Believeour LE has made contact with roommate and <we> should be hearing soon ifhe <policeman> is going to visit the apt finally! Per VI - Thread #1,post #349
•I foundher laptop the other day, she stopped using it months ago as It won't turn on.Turned it over to the police to see if they can find anything on the drive thatmay help. Per VI - Thread #1, post #357. Did this bring leads to go on?
•So Idiscovered today that Jenna for sure had iMessage enabled at least I believeso. I tried from my Mac to send her a text via iMessage to her phone number andit was delivered but not read. I have gotten access to 2 icloud accounts nowwith old emails that she had and using the security questions. Per VI - Thread#1, post #360. Did this bring leads to go on?
•Brother istrying to find out more about her e-mail accounts/Apple ID site. I've tried the2 known emails that we have for her and no luck. Per VI - Thread #1, post #365
•Ok I gotin finally. I had been going to iCloud.com. I managed to figure out the rightemail from the Apple ID site and it shows her phone and phone no as a listeddevice. I have an old iPad that I'm restoring with her account info. It lookslike though and this is odd, it says no back ups of apps and data available.All contacts and messages are wiped and photos only show January of this yearand prior. Could this have something to do what happened in February at the Petstore or be related to the supposed violent boyfriend back in February? It'slike she turned off all back-up settings or someone wiped a lot of her phone.Per VI - Thread #1, post #367. Maybe somebody could change this stuff to a morecomprehending text, because this is out of my league.
•About thesupposed violent boyfriend back in February; We have just heard through thegrapevine of this but she would never tell us of this guy, there hasn't beenany contact from him or her in a while that we could find on the phone logsthough. Per VI - Thread #1, post #375
•Police isgoing to interview friend(s) about the possible violent boyfriend she was within February. (my interpretation bases on content of the post) Yup, p.i andpolice are interviewing today. Per VI - Thread #1, post #373
•Policevisited Jenna’s apartment. We got her stuff back yesterday <d.d.8/30> .Doesn't sound like they got anything of interest out of going over there.Posted on 8/31 by VI - Thread #1, post #391. Needless to say that they didn’tfind Jenna at the apartment. Were there only clothes, was there anything elseretrieved from the apartment? Did she really had a room/bed there? What was thestate of this room? Any signs that she had been there/lived there? Did the socalled roommate really lived there? What happened to the rent? Yes, and they brought a small box of clothes back to thehouse, that’s all she has apparently there. The apartment really lacked anymajor furniture other than a couch and a few other things. Which is odd. T2 #294 VI
•Aboutbringing the roommate for questioning and found items: Not aware of it, soundslike she just had some clothes there and that’s it. But again who knows at thispoint. I could speculate that the roommate got rid of stuff. Working to findout more this a.m. Still sounds so fishy to me. Per VI - Thread #1, post #395
August 31,Thursday
•Hey guyssorry for the silence this morning. We have gotten access to her emails andFacebook through some nifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy feature nowcalled time line in Google maps. If anyone has used before it's creepy but veryhandy. Per VI - Thread #1, post #397
•The familyhas finally access to her mails and Facebook. VI writes about this Thread #1,post #401 & Thread #1, post #404. We have gotten access to her emails andFacebook through some nifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy feature nowcalled timeline in Google maps. It shows right now her entire history oflocations and whereabouts for Friday the 18, including locations she search onmaps. Sat 19 no activity
September1, Friday
•Soupdates.. long day yesterday <d.d.9/1> The tricky part right now isfiguring out the last few hours before her activity ends. There is thisapartment / townhome I mentioned. Still figuring out the deal with that andthen I discovered that the timeline goes a bit more and shows driving fromthere down to midtown (14th and Crecsent Ave) which is near Opera night club.We also know that she was in my mom’s car most of that night, so she had tohave come back (with someone we assume) to have the cars switched. Per VI -Thread #1, post #462. <because her mother’s car was at the parents’house>
September2, Saturday, September 3, Sunday
September4, Monday
•There is a$10,000 reward for info leading to her return per Help Find Jenna FB site -LINK
September5, Tuesday
Jenna’sCar found, but not made public (for obvious reasons) Car parked along DefoorPlace off Chattahoochee Avenue in Northwest Atlanta. Tip came through email.
http://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrael.com/car-not-woman-found/
‘Whiledriving to her gym, a Morningside woman who was following the case spotted thecar parked along Defoor Place off Chattahoochee Avenue in NW Atlanta. Jenna’sfather, Leon Van Gelderen, met police at the scene but honored a police requestto keep quiet about the discovery for more than a week’
‘DeKalbpolice are reviewing video footage from the scene. “There’s a video camera onone of the buildings across the street from where the car was, but they haven’ttold us what they found on there.”

September 6, Wednesday

September7, Thursday
•There is aperson of interest (officially?)Persons name known by family. 33 years old andabout 6 feet, working in security, known to Jenna, probably February from Petshop. <I want to be careful about the details>
•Hey guyssorry for the absence this week. Been trying to refocus on my own job search.We have a person of interest. He is the last person to see her that Fridaynight and his stories keep changing on when and where he saw her and haspreviously been at the house and driven Jenna's car according to friends.<modsnip> <I can’t put name up here> We have an email tip line aswell FindJennaNow@gmail.com. Per VI - Thread #1, post #742

September11, Monday
•The familygot a response from the Police Chief and commissioner. Hopefully will bemeeting with him to go over how this case has been handled and where we can gofrom here. Per VI - Thread #1, post #1109. I wish I could give more updates,but I don't have any :/
•The familystill not met up with LE
•About howLE is handling the case: Why is police holding up, do they know more? Whywithhold information? I'm not sure what they think at this point. I mean theydid ask me if she had a box full of money and could have just left to go liveoff the grid. Again this all goes back to the cat, she would have never leftthe cat unattended like she did. Police have been very quiet which is why weare meeting with the Chief. We are so very torn and frustrated about how thiswhole case has been handled. We have given the info to the police, a lot ofinfo, but we don't know what they are doing with it, other than Friday just nowseeing a judge to get a warrant to read emails /facebook / texts etc eventhough we gave them that stuff over a week ago. Per VI - Thread #1, post #1119.We have many times now <asked straight out the police what they thinkhappened> and can’t get a straight answer. I know this department is spreadthin in this county which sucks also. Per VI - Thread #1, post #1134
September,13 Wednesday
•The family still not meet up withLE, per VI - Thread #1, post #1230
We finally spoke with LEagain just a bit ago. All the contacts we have that were with her or had seenher that week are cooperating and not running from the Police, even afterseveral interviews with police. Sounds like they are just as frustrated as weare, but still cannot tell us much more from the investigation T2 #13 VI

September,15 Friday
Bigupdate! Car has been found <actually it was found on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP], butbecause of the ongoing investigation not previously made public> and isbeing processed by Dekalb police. Only thing we know at this point is that nowindows were smashed, but driver's seat was pushed all the way back. Correctand it was my dad who noticed before the car was even opened / picked up thatthe driver seat was all the way back. T2 #446 VI Not reclined all the way backlike for sleeping. Just seat rails all the way back, and the vertical heightpushed all the way down T2 #489 VI.

• Car was found in a parking lot in town off Defoors Ave in Atlanta, forpeople that know the area. Not a sketchy area, very modern and up and comingarea. T2 # 110 VI
  
• I've also asked if any neighbors of the area who may have Street facingcamera check their footage as well. T2#446 VI
  
• Leon Van Gelderen said DeKalb County Police Chief James Conroy has beennice and is actively involved in the case.
  
• But so far with her car. Almost all of her belongings are in the car.After she moved out she had pretty much been keeping everything in the trunk(clothes, shoes, day bags etc) all in the car except her wallet and phones .Did find a digital voice recorder though that she had from school to study anda pocket taser in her day bag. Not sure on those maybe she use the recorderrecently, batteries dead though. T2 #441 VI.
  
• “Thanks to Chief Conroy of Dekalb Pd for spending several hours with ustoday. He assures us they are diligently working the case,” Van Gelderen postedon his personal Facebook page Friday, Sept. 15.
  
• Update 9/15 Facebook: Car has been found! It is being processed byDekalb police, no further information until they finish. Jenna still missing.
  
• At that moment it’s unknown if Jenna was familiar with that area T2 # 128 VI We don't know the connection on that area,. There could be a connectionor none at all or someone who went for a joy ride. I am hoping some neighborscome forward with video footage T2 #465 VI
  
• Closing in on the payment made by Jenna through Western Union; Yes, wehave the names on who she sent the payments to, and its being reviewed as wellT2 #132 VI
  
• The location the car was found is on the other side of town from whereall the gas stations and her apartment are and is even further from her parent’shome. The closest two locations that we were told from google timeline would bethe 14th and crescent stop by Opera and the Northside and North Ave stop nearEnglish Ave. T2 #158 Local WS member.
  
• Hey everyone. I have clarified the car was on Defoor Place right off ofDefoors Ave, on the street. Police initially said a lot, however my dadconfirmed since he also went down there when it was found, it was on thestreet.

http://www.atlanta-detox.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/map-of-the-Bluff.png don’t know how accurate this map is can’t verify.
September19, Tuesday
http://www.11alive.com/news/local/missing-in-georgia/woman-vanishes-car-found-empty/476644040

• Insideher car that was out of gas, yielded zero fingerprints nor clues. Nearby storesecurity camera videos in the area provided police with no further leads.
  
• For the record: media stated door was unlocked…Family corrected thiswith 11alive..door was deadbolt locked.
  
• They checked mom’s car for Fingerprints; Yes for finger prints have notheard yet what they found T2 # 225 VI Finger prints should be in the car.Iagree, but according to what the police said in the news articles there wherenone. If so that means someone wiped it down
  
• CNN TV interview with parents.

September20, Friday

• We have picked up the car today and will need some time to go throughit. Her suit case, with clothes other shoes are in the trunk. I can tell thoughthat the driver seat was pushed all the way back and fully down (not how shewould have driven it). Where side mirrors and mirror up front also changed? Ialso found an iPhone 7 lightning to headphone adapter on the driver seat. Jennahad an iPhone SE which did not need this, im not sure if that is relevant ornot yet. T2 # 354 VI

CNN videotranscript http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...9/ptab.01.html

 

[KelsK]

If I still lived in the area, I would be there to help in a minute! I wonder if the roommate needed Jenna to sign the lease? I'm also wondering if he ever paid rent? I guess at this point, I can't help but think money is a factor in some kind of way,

 

[Shiressleuth]

In the time line it is mentioned J drove to 14th and Crescent ( near Opera). I am wondering if this was something to do with the apartment she was enquiring about in Virginia Highland/Morningside area as it does not seem far from that area.
I also just noticed in the time line that it was a Morningside woman who was following the case and reported the car by email when she spotted it en route to her gym.

 

[Unsub#1]

We have picked up the car today and will need some time to go throughit. Her suit case, with clothes other shoes are in the trunk. I can tell thoughthat the driver seat was pushed all the way back and fully down (not how shewould have driven it). Where side mirrors and mirror up front also changed? Ialso found an iPhone 7 lightning to headphone adapter on the driver seat. Jennahad an iPhone SE which did not need this, im not sure if that is relevant ornot yet. T2 # 354 VI

I find this info is important because Jenna did not own a I phone 7, I believe the phone numbers which have gathered regarding to all persons of interest, should be traced back to there providers and they should know what type of phone is related to each number. LE should be looking into this, because it seems the person who owns that phone potentially may be the last person to see Jenna.

Maybe whoever is involved has finally made a mistake, they probably have realized by now that they have left the head phone adaptor for a I Phone 7 in the car and now have to got rid of the phone. By making arrangements to trade it in for a newer phone plan or conveniently say it was stolen or any other excuse you can think of. I know its a long shot but you never know.

Lets hope they get a break in the case soon.

 

[Shiressleuth]

We have picked up the car today and will need some time to go throughit. Her suit case, with clothes other shoes are in the trunk. I can tell thoughthat the driver seat was pushed all the way back and fully down (not how shewould have driven it). Where side mirrors and mirror up front also changed? Ialso found an iPhone 7 lightning to headphone adapter on the driver seat. Jennahad an iPhone SE which did not need this, im not sure if that is relevant ornot yet. T2 # 354 VI

I find this info is important because Jenna did not own a I phone 7, I believe the phone numbers which you have gathered regarding to all persons of interest, should be traced back to there providers and they should know what type of phone is related to the number. LE should be looking into this, because it seems the person who owns that phone potentially may be the last person to see Jenna.

Maybe whoever is involved has finally made a mistake, they probably have realized by now that they have left the charger in there, and have got rid of the phone by making arrangements to trade it in for a newer phone plan or conveniently say it was stolen or any other excuse you can think of.

Lets hope they get a break in the case soon.

I believe chargers are compatible but this was a headphone adapter so I don't know if they are.

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

We have picked up the car today and will need some time to go throughit. Her suit case, with clothes other shoes are in the trunk. I can tell thoughthat the driver seat was pushed all the way back and fully down (not how shewould have driven it). Where side mirrors and mirror up front also changed? Ialso found an iPhone 7 lightning to headphone adapter on the driver seat. Jennahad an iPhone SE which did not need this, im not sure if that is relevant ornot yet. T2 # 354 VI

I find this info is important because Jenna did not own a I phone 7, I believe the phone numbers which you have gathered regarding to all persons of interest, should be traced back to there providers and they should know what type of phone is related to the number. LE should be looking into this, because it seems the person who owns that phone potentially may be the last person to see Jenna.

Maybe whoever is involved has finally made a mistake, they probably have realized by now that they have left the charger in there, and have got rid of the phone by making arrangements to trade it in for a newer phone plan or conveniently say it was stolen or any other excuse you can think of.

Lets hope they get a break in the case soon.

What is an Alcatel Fierce one touch XL phone? Is it a prepay from Metro PCS?

MOO


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[Pamela_Brewer]

I believe chargers are compatible but this was a headphone adapter so I don't know if they are.

I think they can be modified with an additional add on device. Insert Android to use on i phone or vice versa.
MOO

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[Stanly]

I see that Dekalb Police have put a Missing post up on their Facebook page for Jenna. They have stated she has a Star of David tattoo on her upper thigh. This would have been a good detail to put on the flyers etc.. IMO as trafficking has not been ruled out, and with the rumours of Backpage ads this tattoo might be a good identifier on body photos or anyone involved with her may remember the tattoo and it could jog their memory.

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[Bit of hope]

It may have just been a Facebook group for locals in search of a place to live or a roommate, etc.

I don't think this was a post on the Housing Authority page.
MOO & I could be wrong!

About the membership and post on Atlanta Housing Group
This info is in my casestory in #2 in this thread. I found out through Jenna's own facebook page. There you can go to her groups. Atlanta Housing Group is one of the groups she became member, IIRC on 8/14 2017. There is the post about her reacting on a woman asking for a roommate.

 

[Bit of hope]

Seeing as she was looking to move out of that apartment, I'm wondering if she had the suitcase in her car because she was taking more things out of the apartment and that's why she didn't have as much stuff there. Total guess, of course, but by looking at her posts, it seems like she was eager to get a place.


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It's quit possible that she was busy gathering stuff from different houses where she 'surfed on coaches'; ex, her own apartment (VI is not sure if she went back to her apartment that night or visited the townhouse which was just behind her), parents house, checking out the neighborhood, searching for an address, trying to meet up with somebody offering a place to rent. Could be an explanation for all the movements as preparation for her moving to some place, and almost nothing found in her own apartment. Could indeed be a connection with the Atlanta Housing Group post. I'm just not sure what the story is with her using her mum's car and her stuff found in her own car.

 

[Shiressleuth]

About the membership and post on Atlanta Housing Group
This info is in my casestory in #2 in this thread. I found out through Jenna's own facebook page. There you can go to her groups. Atlanta Housing Group is one of the groups she became member, IIRC on 8/14 2017. There is the post about her reacting on a woman asking for a roommate.

These are two additional Fb posts to that one on the 14th. These are one on the 16th and one (the virginia highland/morningside one ) on the 18th - the day she disappeared. They need to go on the timeline for those dates IMO. (sorry I know you just updated it ) this is a great lead I think.
Eta see post 783 I have the dates mixed up a bit. 17th is the post the J responds to on the 18th.