Found Deceased GA - Kelly Nash, 25, Buford, 5 Jan 2015

[atthelake]

Maybe it's not being released to the public?


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I was told by a local that it was released 2 months ago and is even on the internet. ??? I was told he did drown, and had a gunshot wound and feet were bound. I have not seen the autopsy report and didn't think it had been released. After a month in water how would they even determine if a drowning ? Chalk up to 100% locals rumor ?

 

[Damarna]

http://www.gainesvilletimes.com/m/archives/109025/

FWIW this articles says due to decomp they were unable to determine any trauma to the body. I'm not finding anything else yet. I would think if there had been any evidence of being bound it wouldn't still be kept secret. Wasn't someone posting photos on Instagram when his body had been found? IMO I'd think someone would have noticed. Maybe I'm off base....just a gut feeling.

 

[AngelaH]

I can't find any reference to the autopsy report being released when Googling it. Is this a public record that someone can request?
The other odd thing is if his feet were bound - wouldn't that indicate foul play? It does to me. But this case has been closed. ?? I'm baffled.

 

[somequestions]

I recently saw this on a Disappeared special. I had a story I thought I would relate that I heard about last month.

Over Christmas 2014 a woman bought her child an Xbox One. Over time the child really enjoyed it. One day she got a phone call from someone talking all weird to her. I cannot remember how she determined what she did next, but she eventually figured out the person calling her was someone her child was playing against on the Xbox One. I never knew that the gaming systems these days actually allow you to play against real people. I only remember playing my Nintendo and Sega Genesis. I feel old. Sorry if this info is common knowledge among other people and maybe police took Kelly Nash's Xbox or maybe he did not have this type of system, but when I saw this case I instantly thought of the story of the woman and her child playing Xbox One. What game was Kelly Nash playing when he disappeared?

It certainly is one of the strangest suicides I have ever heard of, if it was a suicide. Even if he goes downstairs to check the door because of an intruder why would he then leave without taking his cell phone? Once the threat of someone being in the house is over, why would he not close the door? If someone had threatened his dad why would he not drive over to his dad's house instead of walking on a cold January morning? So many unanswered questions that this case really is a very strange mystery.

 

[somequestions]

I noticed something on the Disappeared special that was odd. When the editors did the recreation they have one car parked behind Kelly's truck. But if the story is that the last person to go out to get items at the convenience store was Kelly shouldn't they have put his truck behind the car? Maybe it is Kelly's dad's car signifying the dad coming over to look for his son later that morning and the girlfriend's car was in the garage? I just thought it was bad editing.

I liked the old Disappeared series a little better.

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

I can't find any reference to the autopsy report being released when Googling it. Is this a public record that someone can request?
The other odd thing is if his feet were bound - wouldn't that indicate foul play? It does to me. But this case has been closed. ?? I'm baffled.

I spent some time looking this up...I read through loooong documents, in regard to the Freedom of Information Act/public records, re: Georgia (to try to get a concrete answer on autopsy reports), and I just felt like you guys would want to slap me if I posted those links because...well, in order to spare you from all that, I'd have to have say stuff like: "read this page #...then this other page #...but here's the wiggle room on this, if you read this page#...etc." :slap:

So instead...I am linking a 2013 document that I feel is much easier/quicker to get to the main gist. I will be right back to post that link, but it is this * (below) that is included on this (soon-to-to-be-posted) document that sums it up:

* This table does not address states (e.g., Florida and Georgia) that have statutes directly addressing disclosure of autopsy photos, videos, or audio recordings, but not autopsy reports. [the "not" was BBM].

*****ETA: Here is the link (2013): http://www.cga.ct.gov/2013/rpt/2013-R-0364.htm

Okay, so go to AUTOPSY REPORTS and read that section...then look at the state-by-state table. That is when you will NOT see Georgia listed (or Florida), but you will see the * that explains why, at the end of that table. And this is just *my* interpretation, but from what else I read on this topic, in Ga. it is not as clear-cut as in some states/there are possible "exemptions"/"exceptions" on releasing an autopsy report -- and to whom. That is JMO, my interpretation.

 

[Sutton]

I was told by a local that it was released 2 months ago and is even on the internet. ??? I was told he did drown, and had a gunshot wound and feet were bound. I have not seen the autopsy report and didn't think it had been released. After a month in water how would they even determine if a drowning ? Chalk up to 100% locals rumor ?

BBM. What?!?!

Is this true? If his feet were intentionally bound (not tangled on debris or fishing line), this is not a suicide. I won't believe it is unless I see it (like on s security camera recording). I can't believe I'm just now reading this possible rumor.

 

[Sutton]

I can't find any reference to the autopsy report being released when Googling it. Is this a public record that someone can request?
The other odd thing is if his feet were bound - wouldn't that indicate foul play? It does to me. But this case has been closed. ?? I'm baffled.

Some states release autopsy reports, others don't (they release to family if there is not ongoing police investigation).

I believe if this were available to the public (even if a FOIA request was required) we would have seen it. There have been articles stating Kelly's manner of death, but they were written as if the reporter had not seen the autopsy. MOO.

 

[somequestions]

I re-watched this special of Disappeared and it looks like Kelly Nash had both a car and a truck and drove both so nothing was wrong with the program. There is a lot of information in the program that I look for explanations about. For example, did the family contact running clubs to make sure the person walking in the surveillance videos was not just some runner training for a marathon? Did someone determine how fast the person was walking based on the distance and time between the two known surveillance tape sightings? Who does newspaper routes in that area?

Then there is the actual story. For someone who was going to go to bed late, did Kelly Nash have an alarm clock nearby? When his girlfriend described how she found the couch with the game console on one side and the headset on the other with the comforter spread out I thought he was going to bed or planning to go to bed. Then she said that he left in the middle of his game. So what did he do, decide to get ready to go to bed or go to bed in the middle of his game? Did he set his alarm clock? Did his girlfriend have hers set maybe to wake them both up? I know dogs always know when their owners get up to let them outside.

Maybe he had some type of brain health issue that caused him to get up and walk in the cold in his pajamas? That is all I can think of.

 

[EllieBee]

I re-watched this special of Disappeared and it looks like Kelly Nash had both a car and a truck and drove both so nothing was wrong with the program. There is a lot of information in the program that I look for explanations about. For example, did the family contact running clubs to make sure the person walking in the surveillance videos was not just some runner training for a marathon? Did someone determine how fast the person was walking based on the distance and time between the two known surveillance tape sightings? Who does newspaper routes in that area?

Then there is the actual story. For someone who was going to go to bed late, did Kelly Nash have an alarm clock nearby? When his girlfriend described how she found the couch with the game console on one side and the headset on the other with the comforter spread out I thought he was going to bed or planning to go to bed. Then she said that he left in the middle of his game. So what did he do, decide to get ready to go to bed or go to bed in the middle of his game? Did he set his alarm clock? Did his girlfriend have hers set maybe to wake them both up? I know dogs always know when their owners get up to let them outside.

Maybe he had some type of brain health issue that caused him to get up and walk in the cold in his pajamas? That is all I can think of.

FWIW, and JMO, but I am not putting much faith on anything Jessica says.

Until someone shows me proof positive that Kelly was not a victim of foul play, and that his girlfriend isn't privy to more than she lets on, I am never going to believe that Kelly walked two miles in the cold in jammies only to shoot himself right next to his dad's house.

Stinks to high heaven.

And the GF knows more.....

 

[somequestions]

FWIW, and JMO, but I am not putting much faith on anything Jessica says.

Until someone shows me proof positive that Kelly was not a victim of foul play, and that his girlfriend isn't privy to more than she lets on, I am never going to believe that Kelly walked two miles in the cold in jammies only to shoot himself right next to his dad's house.

Stinks to high heaven.

And the GF knows more.....

I do not think the girlfriend has anything to do with it. How do you explain the guy walking down the side of the road? Presumably this is Kelly Nash unless it is another missing person walking down the road in the early morning hours of January 5, 2015. I was surprised none of the dogs followed him out of the house with the door being open but then maybe the dogs were in the bedroom with Jessica? Without knowing the details behind any investigation it is difficult to come to any conclusions. I came to the wrong conclusion before that the couple only had two vehicles when they actually had three. Kelly's two cars were in the driveway and his girlfriend's car was in the garage.

What would be the motive for the girlfriend? She is dating a man about to get his degree, has a good job, and is probably making decent money(if he owns two vehicles). The circumstances surrounding the case are strange, and that is probably what makes this sort of a unique mystery, even if it was suicide.

Why people do what they do will always be a mystery. Maybe he had some kind of seizure and was trying to call his girlfriend for help to take him to the hospital before he walked outside?

I thought it was a bit strange the person seen walking down the road at the gas station never entered the gas station to at least warm up.

The surveillance tape at the gas station the night before he disappeared gave me the impression that he was irritated with whoever he was talking to on the phone at the time. The way he is looking at the products and shaking his head made me think his girlfriend sent him out for something he could not find at the gas station. This is just making guesses again. For all I know he was talking to his dad or a friend on the phone.

It almost seemed like he became a figure in a video game controlled by some outside force to do whatever they asked. It has to be one of the most unique disappearance I have ever heard of.

 

[damitajo1]

Let me start by admitting what we all need to admit: I do NOT know the circumstances of this poor man's death -- other than the public information that he had a gunshot wound and was found in water. Having said that, I have seen so many posts that follow a very similar pattern: He could not have committed suicide. He had so much going for him. He was attractive; had a beautiful girlfriend, [and fill in the blank with other aspects of the American dream]. These posts reflect a lack of knowledge about depression and suicide.

Depressed people can be very skillful in hiding their illness. Why? Well, there's a mental health stigma in this country. Also, a lot of folks do not want to burden others with their problems. Many people who are depressed do not even understand it's an illness; instead, they think they need to just keep fighting. Due to all of these factors, it is very likely that you might not know that someone you love is depressed. How many times have you heard of a suicide, and the family's reaction is: "yes, we knew he would commit suicide anyday. We were just waiting for it"? None!

Most people do not plan suicides. Most people do not tell anyone in advance. Most people do not leave notes. Most men use guns. Women use drugs. Most often, it is a gun the person owns. It can happen suddenly, without much thought. The person can seem normal one day and be dead the next.

For all of these reasons, suicides are more tragic than just the death of the victim. People blame themselves for not seeing anything. They blame the victim for not asking for help. They live in denial, knowing that their loved one "could not have committed suicide." This is especially true among religious people who believe suicide is a sin.

I am only putting this out here because I have read so many posts that say the same thing. The human mind is more complex, vulnerable and resilient that we want to believe. I do not know what killed him, but the facts of his life that are known to the public do not preclude a suicide.

 

[Sweetgrits]

Excellent post!

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[somequestions]

What did the medical examiner determine to be the official cause of death? Did it say suicide. If the medical examiner determined it to be a suicide then it probably was one. I will admit there are certain aspects of it that do make you think.

Kelly's mom said he was on the phone with his girlfriend when he was at the convenience store the night before he disappeared. In the surveillance video he was wearing a North Face jacket. Did police find that jacket back at his house after he disappeared? I disagree with his mother about how he looked. He looked kind of agitated to me like his girlfriend sent him out to get something and he either could not find it or they did not have the brand she wanted and he called her to ask what to do.

The only part about suicide that would make me wonder is the picture of Kelly and a dog in front of the ocean. Was that his dog? With the open door, I did not understand why if a guy is going to go to a lake to commit suicide why he would not close the garage door? Is the area outside the garage fenced in? Is that where the dogs are let out to go? Is the road Kelly lived on busy enough that a dog might get hit and killed by a driver? All of this could be easily explained if the dogs were in the room with his girlfriend at the time. Maybe he did not care if the dogs got loose. Did the previous owners put up the fence on the property?

What is so unique about this case is where the potential suicide took place. I have never heard of someone walking two miles being seen by witnesses to go to a lake to shoot themselves and then having the unfortunate circumstance of being hidden under the water not being able to be found until much later. What a strange mystery.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Did he wade into the water in January and kill himself? Did he stand close enough to the water to fall in and drop the gun to never be found? Those are the questions that steer me from suicide. I know suicide is never logical, so I try to keep an open mind, but the water aspect of this one is especially intriguing. And maybe I'm just lazy but I'd have committed suicide before running another errand for my GF if I was already planning on it.

 

[damitajo1]

A couple of guys (separate cases) committed suicide in my home state last year. They were found in ponds. One of the men had called his father and said: "I am just finishing up my run, and then I'm coming over to see you for dinner." He never made it to dinner. I don't think the ME's report was made public. The family hasn't said much. So, it could be inconclusive, and they do not want to tell the public (for law enforcement purposes) OR it was a suicide, and the family doesn't want to tell the public.

 

[atthelake]

On another thread ! Same street as Kelly was found in cove ! Hmmmmm

" Police serve search warrant in case of missing Lawrenceville dad

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/l...rant-case-missing-lawrenceville-dad/31213709/ "

 

[KristiA]

On another thread ! Same street as Kelly was found in cove ! Hmmmmm

" Police serve search warrant in case of missing Lawrenceville dad

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/l...rant-case-missing-lawrenceville-dad/31213709/ "

Wow! Thank you for posting this Atthelake. I have been following this case as well. Hope there is some resolution to this. So sad.


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[atthelake]

Wow! Thank you for posting this Atthelake. I have been following this case as well. Hope there is some resolution to this. So sad.


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I put a call into the reporter ( left message ) asking him some specific questions. I wish they had taken photographs from the lake side of the house so I would know which house it was.

ETA. If the reporter wasn't aware of the connection between these two cases he certainly does now after my call

ATL

 

[KristiA]

I put a call into the reporter asking him some specific questions. I wish they had taken photographs from the lake side of the house so I would know which house it was.

ETA. If the reporter wasn't aware of the connection between these two cases he certainly does now after my call

ATL

Lol! Nice work [emoji4]. I will be following Samuel's thread for any updates. I hope his family gets some sort of closure. Unlike Kelly's, his family hasn't had any.


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