GA - Kendrick Johnson, 17, Suspicious Death, Jan. 10/11, 2013, #2

[Reader]

Yes I agree - this Is a formal review by the DOJ is not just a formality or lip service . He is reviewing the case he could press all types of very serious Federal charges. Three areas : Including reopening the civil case, charges of tampering with evidence cover up/ conspiracy by official in order to obliterate evidence, and another one usually reserved in GA for organized crimes .
Hmmm

reader, did you hear the Webster / Rosen interview ? What did you think about the possible 5- 7 persons of interest and the other people starting to come forward In time for the DOJ investigation?

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Yes, I did listen to it a few days ago and found it very enlightening. Rosen and Webster have given all the information and evidence they have and are discovering to Mr. Moore the federal prosecutor and are in frequent contact with him. Webster in particular said he was surprised at all the local people, black and white, who have come forward to help get justice for Kendrick. They feel sure that charges will be made. Whether that happens or not we'll have to wait and see from Mr. Moore.

MSM please link to tampering with evidence.

...and likewise, MSM reference to gross incompetence. These are very strong allegations about professionals who likely suffered and lost much sleep over the investigation of the death of a child. These are not trivial accusations.

Not speaking for iSleuth, but I would say just read back on the threads on the case. There have been many previous links about the disappearance of evidence (clothes, organs, mat), possibly tampering of evidence (videos not provided in full and still missing parts), misuse of Kendrick's body (not sending him directly to GBI for autopsy and holding in the county in warm conditions), evidence not collected properly (blood, shoes, hooded jacket), parents not being kept informed of the investigation and their questions not answered by the county/state officials.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/complaint-against-funeral-home-in-kendrick-johnson-case/

Complaint against funeral home in Kendrick Johnson case

The complaint filed Tuesday by Johnson’s parents alleges Harrington, the funeral home owner, “misled us as to the condition of our son’s body, and at worst, is responsible for the removal and destruction of his organs, and, thus, desecration of our son’s body.”

 

[juan]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/complaint-against-funeral-home-in-kendrick-johnson-case/

Complaint against funeral home in Kendrick Johnson case

The complaint filed Tuesday by Johnson’s parents alleges Harrington, the funeral home owner, “misled us as to the condition of our son’s body, and at worst, is responsible for the removal and destruction of his organs, and, thus, desecration of our son’s body.”

So the Johnsons are now of the opinion that Harrington’s Funeral Home is responsible for losing or destroying KJ's internal organs. It doesn't surprise me that the FH would have done this. When the Johnsons say, "Mr. Harrington may have facilitated a cover-up as to the cause of our son’s death to the extent that the missing organs may have deprived our pathologists the means by which to determine how he may have died,” I wonder if they believe the FH was complicit in the cover-up.

 

[Montjoy]

If the Johnsons (condolences to them) believe that the funeral home is culpable for losing or destroying Kendrick's internal organs, would that mean that they do not believe that LE is responsible, and so there cannot be any misconduct or negligence assigned to LE with respect to the organs?

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Even if the internal organs had been left in a bag in the body cavity, due to decomp, how would there be any possibility of gaining any useful information from the remains?

If there is no autopsy performed then the organs would be preserved through embalming. But since there was an autopsy performed and the organs would have been unpreserved, I don't think there would be anything left by the time the body was exhumed.

Does anyone have any knowledge in this area?

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Article about todays rally and a little more info on the complaint that was filed against the funeral home.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/11/us/kendrick-johnson-rally-complaint/

 

[Sherp]

So the Johnsons are now of the opinion that Harrington’s Funeral Home is responsible for losing or destroying KJ's internal organs. It doesn't surprise me that the FH would have done this. When the Johnsons say, "Mr. Harrington may have facilitated a cover-up as to the cause of our son’s death to the extent that the missing organs may have deprived our pathologists the means by which to determine how he may have died,” I wonder if they believe the FH was complicit in the cover-up.

Georgia Bureau of Investigation provided their "pathologist" the slides they took of the organs. Neither they or Anderson were deprived of evidence in the decomposing organs that were discarded.
Of course, only Mr. Johnson notes that the air in the morgue drawer holding Kendrick was warm. The lab states they have safe guards of any warming in the drawers. Now they are after the FH. The supposed cover up includes but is not limited to the School Admin, 3000 students in the school, local LE, School cameras and video techs, and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and now the Funeral Home. WOW!!!

 

[BeginnersLuck]

http://newsone.com/2809048/rally-for-kendrick-johnson-draws-hundreds-to-georgia-state-capitol/

“I got off the plane from Baltimore this morning because I’m a father,” said Jeff Johnson. “So often we have mothers that step up…and just like there are mothers, there are fathers who have had enough, fathers who have had enough of black-on-black crime, of black-on-black brutality. But they have had more than enough of seeing black boys in places where they have been brutalized by people who don’t look like them, who want to shove it under the rug.”
Jeff Johnson also invoked the words of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. that “an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.”

Seriously...SMH...why the insistence on trying to turn something into something it's not.

There was a investigation in KJ's death that lasted for months. There is a 5700 page report by the GBI. To insinuate that KJ was buried and the case was closed in simply not true. There is zero evidence that indicates anything involving KJ was in anyway "racial". I find the implication of a giant, conspiracy coverup ridiculous beyond belief because of the color of KJ's skin. Could they have ruled it a accident in the beginning and closed the book? Yes....but that's not what they did. Now the focus is on missing organs and these attorneys are trying to play ignorant to the fact that these organs were removed and dissected at autopsy. They are insinuating that 5 to 6 months later had these dissected organs been placed in a bag in the body, there would be something left of them that their hired pathologist could possibly analyze and possibly lead to the determination of KJ's COD. This is nothing more than a play on the ignorance of the GP and it serves them no good, because those that are educated on these matters, will be the ones making the final determination.

 

[iSleuth]

http://newsone.com/2809048/rally-for-kendrick-johnson-draws-hundreds-to-georgia-state-capitol/



Seriously...SMH...why the insistence on trying to turn something into something it's not.

There was a investigation in KJ's death that lasted for months. There is a 5700 page report by the GBI. To insinuate that KJ was buried and the case was closed in simply not true. There is zero evidence that indicates anything involving KJ was in anyway "racial". I find the implication of a giant, conspiracy coverup ridiculous beyond belief because of the color of KJ's skin. Could they have ruled it a accident in the beginning and closed the book? Yes....but that's not what they did. Now the focus is on missing organs and these attorneys are trying to play ignorant to the fact that these organs were removed and dissected at autopsy. They are insinuating that 5 to 6 months later had these dissected organs been placed in a bag in the body, there would be something left of them that their hired pathologist could possibly analyze and possibly lead to the determination of KJ's COD. This is nothing more than a play on the ignorance of the GP and it serves them no good, because those that are educated on these matters, will be the ones making the final determination.

The investigation lasted for Months" 4 months ... And there are enough errors that that it is being reviewed by the Federal Government. This means there are many areas where there are discrepancies. This probably is only the beginning. I hope the Johnson's keep seeking answers too.

Ty BeginnersLuck for raising many questions I have about autopsies and funeral homes. I searched around for some info docs and answers. I found this one which helped me understand some of the embalming questions.
If people don't want to read it- skip this post and move on. Tia

American Guidelines for pathologists and funeral homes
http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/committees/autopsy/capnfda_guide.pdf

Btw this is the main reason why I think the coroner was purposely called when he was .


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[Tawny]

There were enough errors or there was enough public outcry?

 

[iSleuth]

There were enough errors or there was enough public outcry?

We know there are errors and --->If <---KJ was murdered - I hope there is enough of an outcry for justice . If there was a cover-up
As citizens we can't just stand by and let abuses and corruption of power ( local +state agencies) go on an on. I feel that the Johnson's are within their rights to seek answers- and well within our rights to examine and discuss action of the case because The case is being actively investigated by the DOJ whether it was public outcry or not it reminds us of our system of checks and balances and the true possibility that there were federal laws breeched by Valdosta Ga, and the school system.
I will be the first one to admit to being wrong . But I feel I. My heart if KJ died in an accident the school and town would have preserved all of it ( his person, clothes, gym mat , sweatshirt, shoe , book , witnesses and videos ( they probably would have cut out the floors and walls ) to the letter of the laws.


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[BeginnersLuck]

The investigation lasted for Months" 4 months ... And there are enough errors that that it is being reviewed by the Federal Government. This means there are many areas where there are discrepancies. This probably is only the beginning. I hope the Johnson's keep seeking answers too.

Ty BeginnersLuck for raising many questions I have about autopsies and funeral homes. I searched around for some info docs and answers. I found this one which helped me understand some of the embalming questions.
If people don't want to read it- skip this post and move on. Tia

American Guidelines for pathologists and funeral homes
http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/committees/autopsy/capnfda_guide.pdf

Btw this is the main reason why I think the coroner was purposely called when he was .


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BBM: Can you be more specific on what you are referring to? Is it something in the linked article? If so can you point me to what it is that relates to your statement about the coroner?

The people involved in this are purposely misleading the general public. The GP is not educated or well informed on this case. I don't buy into conspiracies or believe what I read or hear without doing my research. They are rallying those that will follow, based on what they say or write. It's all political to them, even if it encourages hatred. They lost all credibility with me, when they blindly threw out accusations without facts.

 

[Tawny]

Could you please direct me to something, anything, that even remotely indicates KJ's death was a racially motivated hate crime?

 

[Salem]

This is about KJ. At this point, what happened to KJ is still unknown, but there is no indication it was a racial attack. The Feds declined to bring any civil rights issues, which is an indication that KJ's rights were not violated.

The discussion should remain centered on KJ and the details of his death. Was it an accident, or something else?

Let's stay on topic, please.

Salem

 

[Salem]

I have fixed several messed up quotes. Hopefully I got them all right (I'm still on my first cup of coffee here LOL!). If I did not, please alert and I will fix it. Also, if you see a messed up quote, please alert it so that it can be fixed before it is quoted several times. It's much easier if we can catch it quickly

I'm going to start a new thread here. This one is pretty long.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[Salem]

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