GUILTY GA - Lauren Giddings, 27, Macon, 26 June 2011 # 9

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PsychoMom said:
I heard this on the local news tonight. My first thought - That's the deviant history I have been looking for! Then, I started playing devil's advocate again. Who are the people in these pictures? Who are the adults? There is an adult female mentioned. My mind wandered all over the place with that. Part of me wondered if HE might be the child in some of these pics. And then a light bulb went off.

Is it possible that these are indeed his younger adopted siblings, and the photos are not of him abusing the children, or even related to him being into child *advertiser censored*, but evidence of WHY his sister no longer has custody? Maybe during his time in law school, he found the evidence his mother had denied regarding why his sister lost her children. He held onto it in case she ever considered returning the children, or began talking about how everyone lied about his sister. That is why the pics are stored on a separate flash drive instead of on the hard drive. Easily accessible to show dear old mom if she ever began talking that way.

Not anything I know for sure, but I would like to find out if that is what they found. It would constitute possession of child *advertiser censored*, but the meaning behind it is totally different. Again, until we know what it really is, we don't know what it means. Heck, it could even have been one of those small items he stole from an apartment. I mean a 1gb flash drive is less than $10. If he did steal it from another apartment and it was full of child *advertiser censored*, what a mess! I am leaning towards it being the proof against his sister more than that one.

It could be the deviant history, but there are other possibilities to be considered.
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If what you say was true, IMO, he would not be the only one with a arrest warrant over this right now.
 
There may not be any secret strategic reason behind the timing of the child *advertiser censored* charges. It's just one more straw to throw on the camel's back, leading up to the commitment hearing.

McDaniel is almost certainly never going to be a free man again. And definitely never a young free man. For malice murder (felony or otherwise), he can get the death penalty, life without parole, or life -- that's it, no other sentence is possible. And he is not walking away from these charges, there is no chance under the sun of that.

The most he can hope for is just a life sentence, and the odds of that are already minuscule. Even with a life sentence, Georgia law requires that he serve a minimum of 30 years of that, no matter what. (§ 17-10-6.1(c)(1)).

So 30 years is his best case scenario. The death penalty is the worst. McDaniel's range of options are limited.

On the other hand, given the limited possible outcomes, the LE don't have many bargaining chips left either. They are not going to be particularly worried about getting a conviction, just the sentence, and they don't necessarily need any more evidence from McD. But McDaniel does have at least one thing they don't: the location of the body parts.

The likely trade here would be for McDaniel to give the location of Lauren's body parts in exchange for a life conviction. That hasn't happened yet (although it probably wouldn't until after the commitment hearing anyway), so the next best guess is either (1) the body parts were disposed of in a way that McDaniel really can't give them an accurate location/s, (2) the LE is holding out for both the location of the body parts and a life without parole sentence, or (3) the LE is just going for the death penalty, even if it means McD is taking the location of the rest of Lauren's body with him to the chair.

So I'm probably trying to read too much into too little data here, but if option #2 is what LE are going with, maybe the child *advertiser censored* charges are a way of convincing McDaniel to give up any lingering hope of just a life sentence. With seven charges of child *advertiser censored*, if the sentences are not concurrently imposed, then McDaniel gets a minimum sentence of 35 years in prison, likely more. Already, the potential 30 years are off the table. If McDaniel's shot at a life sentence can be eroded down to nothing, then his options are down to two: life without parole, or death penalty.

I still think the plan is to go for the death penalty, though. In which case, the real reason behind the child *advertiser censored* charges is probably just, "Why not?" Keep throwing stuff at McDaniel, and eventually he will lose any chance of the jury viewing him as an awkward kid that somehow got in way over his head, of someone who made horrible choices, but, prior to this point in his life, was otherwise normal. Instead, the LE can show McDaniel is basically a rabid dog. And there's only one thing you can do with those.
 
PsychoMom said:
I do find it disturbing that police waited until 2 days before the commitment hearing to decide to bring this up. They have had to have known about these images since the beginning. Every time there is a chance he may be released, they come up with something new to charge him with. Is that because they do not have faith in the evidence they have against him?
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Not picking on you, PsychoMom... There have been several posts along these lines.
I just wanted to point out and remind everyone of this:
State investigators examining a computer that belonged to McDaniel have alerted Macon police to an item of interest they found recently, a GBI agent said Tuesday.

“One small thing” is how agent Craig Rotter of the GBI’s Perry field office described the discovery, “one item that had some information on it” that state authorities thought might be useful to Macon detectives and Bibb County prosecutors.

“They are not completely finished with what they are going through,” Rotter said.

McDaniel’s computer was turned over to the GBI on July 25 and taken to Atlanta for analysis.

http://www.macon.com/2011/08/17/1668142/youngest-giddings-sister-is-college.html
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Three things here...

1. MPD most likely got the info for these latest charges on Tuesday, August 16th, or quite possibly that preceding Monday.
(I thought there was some sarcasm from Rotter about that)
So, they've taken 1 week to look that info over and file these charges. Seems reasonable.

2. GBI got the computers on July 25th, so it took them about 3 weeks to find this, investigate it, put the info together and report back to MPD.
Keep in mind they may have tried to identify individuals in the photos and probably worked with FBI and other agencies as well, due to the nature of this.

3. They're not done yet :)
 
HellonHeels said:
Hello all. I have been following this forum and news on LG's murder for several weeks and I have appreciated all of the contributions here. I graduated from ML several years ago, so I did not know LG or McD or any of the major players in this case. But I lived in Macon for several years and I'm still very familiar with the area though I don't live there anymore. I don't practice criminal law so my criminal knowledge is general, especially when it comes to procedural issues. I'm very interested in seeing the perp in this case brought to justice. I think everyone in the Mercer community takes this case very personally.

Based on the recent news of the child exploitation charges, I don't think they have anything to do with the murder case other than the fact that they were discovered while going through McD's things for evidence related to the murder. They do indicate that McD has some serious issues. As far as the new charges reflecting on a weak murder case, I don't think that's a fair assessment. LE can't disregard finding material like that even if the search is for other reasons. I believe they probably have a duty to follow up on evidence of any other crimes committed. They can't just ignore it because there are "bigger fish to fry" so to speak.

Does anybody have any information on whether or not the commitment hearing will be sealed in some way so that the public does not hear the evidence presented?

Glad to be here.
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The commitment hearing is open to the public. Right now it is scheduled for 9:30 a.m. Friday in Judge Bill Shurling's courtroom, #100 Bibb County Courthouse
 
3doglady said:
I understand why you think the *advertiser censored* is related to the murder of LG. My concern is that LE thinks the same way and jumped from child *advertiser censored* to LG's murder without solid evidence. I think he probably did it, but have concerns that the evidence is not there. (I know about the hack saw and accusations of MM, but would those be enough to convict?) Would LE not need time to investigate the *advertiser censored*? Seems to me they may be alerting other locals involved in *advertiser censored* by charging him now.
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I suspect the recent announcement that the GBI had sent in forensic computer evidence that pleased the MPD may have had to do with the child *advertiser censored*, in which case, the murder charges were made prior to that discovery.
 
Lawette32 said:
Another reason that McD might've known Patterson's name so well could be because of McD's internship at the DA's office. It would seem likely that various detective's drop by the DA's office often or are used at witnesses in a DA's cases. Maybe he's came in contact w/ Patterson before and that's why the name came so easily? May be way off base, but just a thought.
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Also, SM and the other friends had just spent the morning being interviewed before SM gave that interview. Patternson was most like the lead detective. He and his car would have been quite familiar, as he probably escorted them to the dept for this questioning. For all we know, SM may have rode in his car that morning.
 
Hyrax said:
There may not be any secret strategic reason behind the timing of the child *advertiser censored* charges. It's just one more straw to throw on the camel's back, leading up to the commitment hearing.

McDaniel is almost certainly never going to be a free man again. And definitely never a young free man. For malice murder (felony or otherwise), he can get the death penalty, life without parole, or life -- that's it, no other sentence is possible. And he is not walking away from these charges, there is no chance under the sun of that.

The most he can hope for is just a life sentence, and the odds of that are already minuscule. Even with a life sentence, Georgia law requires that he serve a minimum of 30 years of that, no matter what. (§ 17-10-6.1(c)(1)).

So 30 years is his best case scenario. The death penalty is the worst. McDaniel's range of options are limited.

On the other hand, given the limited possible outcomes, the LE don't have many bargaining chips left either. They are not going to be particularly worried about getting a conviction, just the sentence, and they don't necessarily need any more evidence from McD. But McDaniel does have at least one thing they don't: the location of the body parts.

The likely trade here would be for McDaniel to give the location of Lauren's body parts in exchange for a life conviction. That hasn't happened yet (although it probably wouldn't until after the commitment hearing anyway), so the next best guess is either (1) the body parts were disposed of in a way that McDaniel really can't give them an accurate location/s, (2) the LE is holding out for both the location of the body parts and a life without parole sentence, or (3) the LE is just going for the death penalty, even if it means McD is taking the location of the rest of Lauren's body with him to the chair.

So I'm probably trying to read too much into too little data here, but if option #2 is what LE are going with, maybe the child *advertiser censored* charges are a way of convincing McDaniel to give up any lingering hope of just a life sentence. With seven charges of child *advertiser censored*, if the sentences are not concurrently imposed, then McDaniel gets a minimum sentence of 35 years in prison, likely more. Already, the potential 30 years are off the table. If McDaniel's shot at a life sentence can be eroded down to nothing, then his options are down to two: life without parole, or death penalty.

I still think the plan is to go for the death penalty, though. In which case, the real reason behind the child *advertiser censored* charges is probably just, "Why not?" Keep throwing stuff at McDaniel, and eventually he will lose any chance of the jury viewing him as an awkward kid that somehow got in way over his head, of someone who made horrible choices, but, prior to this point in his life, was otherwise normal. Instead, the LE can show McDaniel is basically a rabid dog. And there's only one thing you can do with those.
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::round of applause::

EXACTLY.
 
Has anyone seen a reference for SM dressing up as an elf for LARP?
 
angelanalyzes said:
Anyone still having realistic doubts that there was a sexual component to Lauren's murder presuming McDaniel is guilty?
Don't mistake his proclivity for child *advertiser censored* for an exclusion of the likelihood that he would offend against adults, plenty of rapists are also fans of CP and are not even gender-specific in terms of the children featured in the disgusting material. The mere nature of the violation and power pedophiles have over their victims in their photos/videos is a turn on for those with violent sexual urges, gender is irrelevant. In many cases sexual predator will possess or produce child *advertiser censored* featuring both boys and girls, it is the powerlessness of the children that is the draw more than it is the gender in their case...also, many rapists who are gender-selective about adults are not exclusively gender-selective about their child victims.
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There's another type of individual, usually one who engages in infantile fantasies and masochistic behavior, who would identify with the children in the images.
 
oldercitizen said:
If what you say was true, IMO, he would not be the only one with a arrest warrant over this right now.
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Common sense can't get any plainer than that, can it? ;)

I'm very disturbed that we are bringing the children into our speculation. I thought it was pretty clear that the children are off limits. Please be careful to word your statements in a way that gets your point across without being specific.
 
The site SMD was posting on is operatorchan.org. To easily find his posts, search for this in Google:

site: operatorchan.org SoL

There's a wealth of disturbing posts from him on this site. Please share what you find.

So far I have determined that his moniker "SoL" stands for Sons of Liberty and is not from a video game like some previously speculated but named for the Revolutionary movement.

http://operatorchan.org/s/arch/src/s15166_Me with the Justice.jpg - photo of SMD with Judge Clarence Thomas
 
MaconMom said:
The site SMD was posting on is operatorchan.org. To easily find his posts, search for this in Google:

site: operatorchan.org SoL

There's a wealth of disturbing posts from him on this site. Please share what you find.

So far I have determined that his moniker "SoL" stands for Sons of Liberty and is not from a video game like some previously speculated but named for the Revolutionary movement.

http://operatorchan.org/s/arch/src/s15166_Me%20with%20the%20Justice.jpg - photo of SMD with Judge Clarence Thomas
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Great find, Macon Mom.

Well, there seems to be no doubt that SoL is SM.

The cache posts are brutal, they go on and on and on, that picture is just omg.

I read one post where he gives a "hypothetical scenario" for killing someone, and it does reference the trash, but, I don't believe that is what LE is referencing.

OMG.
 
MaconMom said:
The site SMD was posting on is operatorchan.org. To easily find his posts, search for this in Google:

site: operatorchan.org SoL

There's a wealth of disturbing posts from him on this site. Please share what you find.

So far I have determined that his moniker "SoL" stands for Sons of Liberty and is not from a video game like some previously speculated but named for the Revolutionary movement.

http://operatorchan.org/s/arch/src/s15166_Me%20with%20the%20Justice.jpg - photo of SMD with Judge Clarence Thomas
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Also appears he was into Christina Hendricks [actress]:
 
Everything he has ever written is horrifying.

Cold, arrogant, judgmental, superior, boastful, and yet he is also just painfully stupid, ignoring all his other rather massive character flaws.
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And cannibalism and killing people are a very frequent topic of conversation for him.
 
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