GUILTY GA - Rusty Sneiderman shot to death at Dunwoody preschool, 18 Nov 2010 #2

[noor]

Here is an interesting recent interview with Hemy's attorneys (post Andrea's bond hearing).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DltfEV5hPw4&feature=player_embedded#!

"We don't believe there was a conspiracy between Andrea and Hemy. We believe Andrea manipulated Hemy to do her bidding unbeknownst to him."

Is a jury really going to convict Andrea for manipulating Hemy?? That would be a tough sell for me if I were a juror.

I'm wondering if Hemy's attorneys even had any contact since he was convicted.
Maybe at the time he wanted to protect Andrea, and now after listening to her lies on the stand, he changed his mind while sitting in jail, thinking WTH, she's not worth it.
Then he started talking to the prosecution.
We don't know if the prosecution contact Hemy in jail, because they want to arrest Andrea, or if Hemy contacted the police/prosecution, and that got the ball rolling.
I don't know if Hemy needed a lawyer on his side, since he was convicted, but I don't know if there will be an appeal.
I doubt that, because he plead guilty by reason on insanity.

ETA, Andrea knew Rusty was shot........how did she know that????

 

[atthelake]

Here is an interesting recent interview with Hemy's attorneys (post Andrea's bond hearing).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DltfEV5hPw4&feature=player_embedded#!

"We don't believe there was a conspiracy between Andrea and Hemy. We believe Andrea manipulated Hemy to do her bidding unbeknownst to him."

Is a jury really going to convict Andrea for manipulating Hemy?? That would be a tough sell for me if I were a juror.

It must be very hard for you as a Rusty friend to doubt the legal process and listening to what Hemys defense lawyer has to say. For thos that follow trials, we know that defense lawyers can say or spin anything as a defense. That is their job. Most of us eve had to last year listen to a defense lawyer in opening statements say that the accused (casey anthony) MAY have had a pe$#s in her mouth.

With that, a grainn of salt to keep in mind as they do spin spin spin and it takes time for those perhaps like you who have not seen this before.



She has multiple charges, and manipulating is a lay term, so no, she will ot be convicted on that. I am seeing abou 110% that believe she will get purjery charges on the affair denial. RICO and others, we are just beginning to see evidence of as this is not the sunshine law state.


Hold out Rustys friend, as Wolfmom says so eloquently in the FCA thread, God is not finished yet......

She willgwt slam dunk convicted on perjury charges, and outcast from her comunity...I am all for that as one of her judgements, yet...

Why are none of her or Rusty friends talking about what she has caused as pain to the family and children!!! I guess like me in that privacy is more impotant?? (Referring to mt attendance at the bond hearing and seven degrees of Kevin Bacon happened...and I did not post what happened)

 

[ChickenPants]

My understanding is that Andrea left her son at the preschool and went home for a short period of time before going to the hospital. I have a vague recollection that the preschool director encouraged Andrea to leave him there because he was safe and unaware that anything was wrong. Does anyone else remember that? I believe it's in the testimony of the preschool director at the HN trial.

AS's family has circled around her from day one. Even if they knew she was involved, they'd never ever sell her out. They're the ones who raised a narcissist, so it's pretty much what I'd expect from them.

I can't by any stretch of the imagination figure out why, if a person was told their spouse had been in an accident and taken to the hospital, that person would go home before going to the hospital. Unless they wanted to hide or cover up something.

I'm thinking if this accident is tragic and may be fatal, ESPECIALLY if you've been told your spouse was shot, wouldn't you immediately rush to the hospital to be by his side?

 

[atthelake]

It is hard to know what one would do as when I found my other half dead, I did not call 911, but called them later to get in touch with the son as I could not even dial the phone when I found him dead. I do give leeway when finding out about tradegy, but I will never believe 31 days....sorry, that one will stick with me forever!



Take care Rustys friend, as it moves slowly! Knowing that you and your friends belifs of what she has done will never make it to trial due to heresay, UNLESS Rusty siad "she did xyz" and not that he heard her say xyz.



As usual. Back on nook with lots of typos!

Hugs and prayers to you and all of the friends who are out ther looking and following tbis but cannot be involved. It must be DEVASTING that you have to watch this and cannot do anything about it for justice. My heart aches for you and others.

 

[atthelake]

I can't by any stretch of the imagination figure out why, if a person was told their spouse had been in an accident and taken to the hospital, that person would go home before going to the hospital. Unless they wanted to hide or cover up something.

I'm thinking if this accident is tragic and may be fatal, ESPECIALLY if you've been told your spouse was shot, wouldn't you immediately rush to the hospital to be by his side?

I will give a bye and understanding on this one as when I had someone die! i O only wanted someone with me immediately to deal with what the outcome I expected. :moo:

 

[ChickenPants]

I will give a bye and understanding on this one as when I had someone die! i O only wanted someone with me immediately to deal with what the outcome I expected. :moo:

That makes sense. Which is why you'd think a person would not return home, but go straight to the side of the loved one. It's not as if she had to go home to use the phone. We see that her cell phone was very busy, and she did NOT call the hospital to inquire about Rusty at any time that I know of. I'm thinking she could have called any number of people and asked them to meet her over there, as well. As it is, Rusty's father took it upon himself to go over there.

Yes, it would make a whole lot more sense if she'd grabbed her cell and called trying to figure out what happened, than to go home (for how long, doing what) and call people announcing he had been shot. Then she goes into what she calls "the death room" and doesn't ask to even see his body to say goodbye? Makes no sense to me at all. It says either she despised this man and/or had some idea (or knew) what had happened, wanted it to happen, and went through the bare minimum of superficial activities as related to the death of a husband. And in the midst of all that, thought it was important to connect with her boss.

 

[ChickenPants]

One more quick thought.

During the HN investigation and trial, it's IMO that LE used AS testimony as peripheral. That evidence together with her own testimony they then used to wrap up their indictment against her.

I think there will be plenty more witnesses and evidence to come in at her own trial. I am hopeful there is more audio of back and forth with detectives, such as when Det. Barnes stated they had found the shooter and she said "are you sure?" instead of saying "who is it?" I think they will re-call the witnesses from HN's trial and especially her friend, whom she grabbed inappropriately and threatened. Let's not forget she went into the witness room and tried to badger others as well before she was thrown off the grounds.

Prosecution may (I hope) show her rush to cover-up as evidence of guilt. The evidence may be in large part circumstantial - that is, without concrete forensics - but it seems overwhelming, IMO. She has denied an affair, so she can't use that as an excuse for deleting those texts and e-mails right after the murder. What other reason could she have to do that except guilt for something else? Since she has out and out denied an affair, what other scenario could a jury come up with for those activities? If I'm a juror even so far, the preponderance of circumstantial evidence outweighs what would be any reasonable doubt, because I can't find any doubts that are reasonable.

 

[rustyfriend]

I can't by any stretch of the imagination figure out why, if a person was told their spouse had been in an accident and taken to the hospital, that person would go home before going to the hospital. Unless they wanted to hide or cover up something.

I'm thinking if this accident is tragic and may be fatal, ESPECIALLY if you've been told your spouse was shot, wouldn't you immediately rush to the hospital to be by his side?

I will try to find where I read this... but she said (I think in her testimony at the HN trial) that Rusty was not at the scene when she arrived and LE instructed her to go home until they contact her and did not tell her what hospital Rusty was being taken to. Then at her home someone phoned the nearest hospital and they told her that they had Rusty there and she went to the hospital immediately. Not what I would have done (I would have insisted on being told where he is and then I would have gone straight there!!).

Is there someplace where the entire HN Trial transcript could be found?? Sorry to be such a newbie!!:blushing:

 

[atthelake]

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That is my recollection which needs refreshing, but I seem to reall that is what she said, but I do not recall other testimony to that other than her words.


Ths SA indeed let her talk onit

I will try to find where I read this... but she said (I think in her testimony at the HN trial) that Rusty was not at the scene when she arrived and LE instructed her to go home until they contact her and did not tell her what hospital Rusty was being taken to. Then at her home someone phoned the nearest hospital and they told her that they had Rusty there and she went to the hospital immediately. Not what I would have done (I would have insisted on being told where he is and then I would have gone straight there!!).

Is there someplace where the entire HN Trial transcript could be found?? Sorry to be such a newbie!!:blushing:

 

[ChickenPants]

I will try to find where I read this... but she said (I think in her testimony at the HN trial) that Rusty was not at the scene when she arrived and LE instructed her to go home until they contact her and did not tell her what hospital Rusty was being taken to. Then at her home someone phoned the nearest hospital and they told her that they had Rusty there and she went to the hospital immediately. Not what I would have done (I would have insisted on being told where he is and then I would have gone straight there!!).

Is there someplace where the entire HN Trial transcript could be found?? Sorry to be such a newbie!!:blushing:

Thanks so much for sharing this information. This would go a long way IF (and I am sorry if I am cynical) - IF her testimony was in any way reliable; unfortunately she has twisted so much information around it's hard to tell. I've searched YouTube for the trial testimony or even snippets of it, with no luck. There are some brief InSession commentaries that show very brief witness statements but nothing of substance. I hope somebody else can point you (us) to more thorough coverage.

As I said earlier, if it was me and even if LE told me to go home I would instead ask them to escort me to the hospital, or in lieu of that if I was ordered to go home I'd be on the phone calling all of the hospitals, not waiting for somebody else to do it....it is HER husband, after all. Also if I was sent home I would want to take my son out of the day care and have my daughter as well unless they were being cared for by family. It sounds hinky that LE would tell a woman whose husband had been shot to go home, alone, with her children scattered in various places....sorry if I am being judgmental, I am just frustrated.

 

[Mama-cita]

I will try to find where I read this... but she said (I think in her testimony at the HN trial) that Rusty was not at the scene when she arrived and LE instructed her to go home until they contact her and did not tell her what hospital Rusty was being taken to. Then at her home someone phoned the nearest hospital and they told her that they had Rusty there and she went to the hospital immediately. Not what I would have done (I would have insisted on being told where he is and then I would have gone straight there!!).

Is there someplace where the entire HN Trial transcript could be found?? Sorry to be such a newbie!!:blushing:

I think she didn't insist on going straight to him (as you and I ad most sane people would do) is because she knew what was going on, was probably freaking out a bit and wanted to regroup and plan her "reaction". IMO

 

[ChickenPants]

Here's a little something for Rusty's friend; this was before Andrea was arrested.

[video=youtube;s9R1tdOqS3o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9R1tdOqS3o[/video]

 

[ChickenPants]

Ariela Neuman's Divorce petition which cited HN for adultery. There is a citation there. There must have been substantial evidence for the grounds, don't you think? Will this be part of discovery in Andrea's trial, I wonder?
http://www.11alive.com/assetpool/documents/120323103117_Neuman vs Neuman.pdf

 

[atthelake]

Sorry I did not address your quaestion. Tnis case is not a "large" case for followers on threads and is not in Florida. Your best bet to get transcripts are pretty much non existant, but this site and one other have In Session snippets for you perhaps if you want to go back through. The ACandyRose site is not tracking this trial,unfortunately.

I will try to find where I read this... but she said (I think in her testimony at the HN trial) that Rusty was not at the scene when she arrived and LE instructed her to go home until they contact her and did not tell her what hospital Rusty was being taken to. Then at her home someone phoned the nearest hospital and they told her that they had Rusty there and she went to the hospital immediately. Not what I would have done (I would have insisted on being told where he is and then I would have gone straight there!!).

Is there someplace where the entire HN Trial transcript could be found?? Sorry to be such a newbie!!:blushing:

 

[panthera]

I can't by any stretch of the imagination figure out why, if a person was told their spouse had been in an accident and taken to the hospital, that person would go home before going to the hospital. Unless they wanted to hide or cover up something.

I'm thinking if this accident is tragic and may be fatal, ESPECIALLY if you've been told your spouse was shot, wouldn't you immediately rush to the hospital to be by his side?

Was she told he had been in an accident or that he had been shot? My memory isn't clear at the moment just exactly what she had been told, however, I cannot see why she didn't go directly to the hospital either. If there was something at home that she needed to get, or whatever, she had family who could do it for her. After seeing that the children were safe, one would think a wife would want to be with their critically injured spouse.

Of course if the wife knew why he was in the hospital without being told, it explains everything.....



MOO

 

[Mama-cita]

Was she told he had been in an accident or that he had been shot? My memory isn't clear at the moment just exactly what she had been told, however, I cannot see why she didn't go directly to the hospital either. If there was something at home that she needed to get, or whatever, she had family who could do it for her. After seeing that the children were safe, one would think a wife would want to be with their critically injured spouse.

Of course if the wife knew why he was in the hospital without being told, it explains everything.....



MOO

She was told only that there had been an accident. IMO that could mean anything from he slipped and fell and broke his arm, to a fender bender to ??? She didn't even know if he'd been critically injured or what the extent of it was. If I was told my spouse had an "accident" I'd be blowing up his cellphone with calls. Andrea didn't do that. To me that in itself is highly suspect. She called Hemy 6 times though so that speaks even more loudly...

 

[panthera]

I will try to find where I read this... but she said (I think in her testimony at the HN trial) that Rusty was not at the scene when she arrived and LE instructed her to go home until they contact her and did not tell her what hospital Rusty was being taken to. Then at her home someone phoned the nearest hospital and they told her that they had Rusty there and she went to the hospital immediately. Not what I would have done (I would have insisted on being told where he is and then I would have gone straight there!!).

Is there someplace where the entire HN Trial transcript could be found?? Sorry to be such a newbie!!:blushing:

Welcome, rustyfriend!

I cannot fathom LE instructing the spouse of a shooting victim to go home and not giving her any information as to which hospital he had been transported to. If anything, they probably would have assisted her in getting there.

MOO

 

[panthera]

She was told only that there had been an accident. IMO that could mean anything from he slipped and fell and broke his arm, to a fender bender to ??? She didn't even know if he'd been critically injured or what the extent of it was. If I was told my spouse had an "accident" I'd be blowing up his cellphone with calls. Andrea didn't do that. To me that in itself is highly suspect. She called Hemy 6 times though so that speaks even more loudly...

Thank you for clarifying. I would be demanding to know what type of accident and how seriously he had been injured.

I wouldn't be calling my boss except to say there had been an "accident" and I would not be coming to work that day. Six times? No way.

MOO

 

[MD MOMMY]

I watched the HN trial and am now having a hard time finding playback anywhere. Does anyone know where I can watch again? IIRC, AS said she was told something happend to RS. I'm not confident the word accident was how she explained it. I could be wrong and would love to check it out. AS testimony was just plain freaky during that trial. I honestly laughed at half her testimony, it was like she was possessed half the time.

 

[MD MOMMY]

Welcome, rustyfriend!

I cannot fathom LE instructing the spouse of a shooting victim to go home and not giving her any information as to which hospital he had been transported to. If anything, they probably would have assisted her in getting there.

MOO

The part that really got me was that she left her son at the daycare because she was told by the daycare person that was the safest place for him...REALLY...your husband was just shot and that was the safest place? I knew right then that she knew for sure who it was.