General theory thread and motives rehashed #6

[Emeralgem]

I have always thought there was something in this theory that beared thought. I don't think Ron killed his daughter on purpose and I think that there would be efforts to treat her body with dignity as well as insuring there would be no evidence. I think IMO that perhaps his dad or some of that side took care of the disposal. I just don't know lately what is going on. I am sure that Haliegh is dead and they ALL know what happened.

All the above is My own opinion.

Wasn't there a report that TN had bought several outfits for Haleigh on the 9th? I will look for a link.

BBM Not that I know of but would be interested in knowing where and what time she made the purchases IF indeed she did...JMHO..

 

[Gwen]

BBM Not that I know of but would be interested in knowing where and what time she made the purchases IF indeed she did...JMHO..

I'm hoping someone here that has kept up on the case has the link handy. If they don't. I will go into the abyss and search it out tonite while I fight insomnia. I remember it being reported. It was early on.

 

[mkay882]

Most of my theories have Misty being 100% aware. If Misty killed Haleigh at or near the MH, and Tommy somehow ended up involved with it where he is the one who carried Haleigh away, then she might not know exactly where Haleigh ended up, but other than that, I think Misty knows everything else.

As far as Tommy, I haven't researched extensively into his background, but my impression is a downward spiral after Haleigh was gone.

MOO, I don't think any of the people in this case are completely 100% selfish and without feelings. I don't think there are very many, if any, people in the world who consider themselves 'the bad guy'. IMO, most people have rationalizations and justifications for their behavior that may not hold up to almost everyone else, but this is the belief system they operate under, and I think understanding that goes a long way towards understanding actions that otherwise seem so inexplicable.

This is why I can see the possibility of Tommy helping his sister because he loves her and wants to protect her, especially in the moment, but after it's all over, struggling with what has happened. If this is the case, it wouldn't surprise me if he talked to reduce his sentence, and it also wouldn't surprise me if he talked because he just couldn't keep quiet about it anymore.

I feel just the opposite!
With Tommy being the perp and Misty covering for her brother.
IMO Tommy spiraled downhill because he is guilty of (probably) the molestation and murder of HaLeigh.

Like I say, MOO though.

 

[Chablis]

I feel just the opposite!
With Tommy being the perp and Misty covering for her brother.
IMO Tommy spiraled downhill because he is guilty of (probably) the molestation and murder of HaLeigh.

Like I say, MOO though.

Why does it have to be molestation? Because its rumored Tommy did something with his sister, was his daughter examined and him charged with child rape? I sometimes think Tommy gets a bad shake because of how he looks. There is nothing on earth to even indicate the child was ever molested, there is only evidence she vanished, or can someone fill me in, maybe I missed Tommy being a rapist?

 

[titanfan62702]

I have always thought there was something in this theory that beared thought. I don't think Ron killed his daughter on purpose and I think that there would be efforts to treat her body with dignity as well as insuring there would be no evidence. I think IMO that perhaps his dad or some of that side took care of the disposal. I just don't know lately what is going on. I am sure that Haliegh is dead and they ALL know what happened.

All the above is My own opinion.

Wasn't there a report that TN had bought several outfits for Haleigh on the 9th? I will look for a link.

I don't remember anything about TN on the 9th. Well, except that she sent a family member over to check on the children -- took awhile to find out who and never heard why she thought it was needed. TN seemed to have distance herself from the MH that day --- where was she?

 

[Lanie]

I feel just the opposite!
With Tommy being the perp and Misty covering for her brother.
IMO Tommy spiraled downhill because he is guilty of (probably) the molestation and murder of HaLeigh.

Like I say, MOO though.

BBM
Cool! Please do share more details of what you think happened. I'm interested in theories other than my own.

 

[Emeralgem]

BBM
Cool! Please do share more details of what you think happened. I'm interested in theories other than my own.

I'm more than willing to share my theory again IF anyone is not aware of my thoughts on what occurred to Haleigh that tragic afternoon/early evening and is interested..JMHO..

 

[Lanie]

I'm more than willing to share my theory again IF anyone is not aware of my thoughts on what occurred to Haleigh that tragic afternoon/early evening and is interested..JMHO..

I'm pretty sure I have the general gist of what your theory is, but I would be interested in seeing it all in one place with more detail, like everyone you think was there when Haleigh was killed (MOO she was killed) and who you think did it, who you think disposed of her, who you think is involved in the cover-up. I'm especially interested in where you think Haleigh might be now.

 

[Chablis]

So anyways, back to Katrina, what is a good reason she did not get any charges for driving Ron while he was instructing Misty to exchange drugs in a bathroom, instead of the car they were both in, why do I feel like I am the only one who thinks this is odd, and also shows how his "dumb" plans work. I mean, he was in the car with Katrina, instructing Misty to go into a public place with cameras (I assume) and do a drug deal, when she was sitting alone with the dude driving, why did there have to be that DRAMATIC element thrown in, why did Ron do that? I think its a fascinating glimpse into his mind, right there I have no doubts the bricked door was his total idea. But as for Katrina, why wouldn't they have charged her, and even though Ron was in the car with Katrina, and Misty in another, Katrina ended up with Mistys purse. How did that happen? Was Ron such a control freak he had her purse with him? If she did not have her purse where was she going to hide those drugs? I guess you could fit 200 pills in your pocket maybe? That whole incident is beyond sketchy, and Katrinas non arrest really makes me think she was working with the LE to save herself and she had knowledge on her daughter and Ron, and probably was carrying the burden of knowing Haleigh was dead, and her being a mother herself, knowing this, and watching Crystal deal with the unknown, and the world having all this hope that she knew was gone. Something isnt right here. jmo

 

[Emeralgem]

I'm pretty sure I have the general gist of what your theory is, but I would be interested in seeing it all in one place with more detail, like everyone you think was there when Haleigh was killed (MOO she was killed) and who you think did it, who you think disposed of her, who you think is involved in the cover-up. I'm especially interested in where you think Haleigh might be now.

How would it be possible for me to give more specific detail as to who was there and who wasn’t there when Haleigh was killed? I wasn’t there.

I do feel for certain both Ron and Misty were present and on the scene when the incident occurred though. I also suspect Ron C is the one who is responsible for Haleigh’s demise. I suspect he shot her, not intentionally, but still, shot her and she is now deceased due to his actions .

IMHO, Ron C putting “Only God Can Judge Me” in the rear window on that truck speaks volumes in regards to him being personally involved in Haleigh’s demise.. He knows he is the one responsible for his daughter’s death. IMHO, his family is also well aware of this being the sad but non the less truthful fact.

As I see it, he and his family possess a pathetically sick mindset. They convinced themselves immediately this tragedy would have never happened IF it weren’t for Misty’s actions. They thought he should not have to be held responsible for something caused by someone else. Seems none of them are capable of taking any responsibility for any of their actions. They ONLY know how to deflect and scapegoat others in order to avoid suffering any consequences for their actions...

To be honest, I suspect every Croslin initially involved that night was conned and manipulated into believing Misty was at fault and it was just an accident... IMHO This is WHY they allowed themselves to become involved with helping out and covering for Ron C instead of immediately reporting the incident to authorities. The Croslins never suspecting they were the ones being set up when... “THE TIME WAS RIGHT” (Ron C’s words, not mine).


In regards to who may have been involved in the hiding and disposal of her body I firmly believe there is a strong possibility Tommy or Ron C may have hidden Haleigh’s remains in or under that trash dumpster (the one close to Tommy’s residence) for some time until other arrangements were put into play.. The more I think about it, I’m NOW more inclined to believe Ron C may have been the one to place Haleigh in or under that dumpster. As I see it, that would definitely give him leverage in getting Tommy to do his bidding…
I also think it is highly possible Tommy and perhaps even Timmy and/or cousin Jo may have taken her to the dock. I have also entertained the thought there is a slight possibility Ron C or a member of his family may have been involved in carrying out that mission too...But since Tommy has admitted to taking her to the dock, I'll just say he is the one who most probably carried out that task...
Do I believe she remained placed at the dock for any significant length of time? No, I do not.. I think Ron C or someone else in his immediate family removed her body almost immediately, IF not sooner and then took her to an undisclosed location…A place where no one would ever know where or how her remains were disposed of…Never to be found..

IMHO… Ron C , Misty, Tommy, Teresa Neves, GGMS are all definitely involved in the cover up. And from Chelsy's actions, and from what she has stated, could very well be she and Timmy are involved too.
Last but not least, I highly suspect there are other members of Ron C’s family who may have/had knowledge of what happened (I stated "had knowledge" due to Katrina B. NOW being deceased) I do suspect some other family members may have been called upon to discreetly organized plans to help out that night so IMHO there are definitely members within the Cummings/Neves/Sykes Clan who are involved in the cover up too.

For certain.. IMHO there isn't any Croslin who knows where Haleigh's remains are or how she was disposed of that night..

In reference to myself I personally believe by hook or crook they may just have managed to have her body cremated. IMHO.. They ALL fully realized they could never allow for her remains to be found..IMHO..They knew IF they ever were, her COD would most definitely implicate Ronald Cummings as being the one responsible..

All the above...JMHOOTS

 

[mkay882]

BBM
Cool! Please do share more details of what you think happened. I'm interested in theories other than my own.

IMO Tommy, when over visiting Misty with his kids after school HaLeigh's last day, left the back door unlocked.
Closed, but unlocked so not to be noticeable.

Since it seems pretty dark back there he may have also 'bricked' the screen/storm door too.
His plan may have been to steal Ron's gun.
... and anything he saw he wanted.

We know he was a petty thief and was often seen roaming the neighborhood at night.
We also know stolen items were found in he and Lindsay's home from these nightly excursions.

IMO, HaLeigh may have woke and he panicked and took her because he was afraid.

Since Misty has made allegations of incest against him, bolstered with Lindsay's 'your incestuous family' remark at visitation and since he (possibly)had HaLeigh anyway he molested her, killed her and dumped her into the St John's river.

What I do know is I highly doubt Ron hurt her in any way, covered for anyone who may have.
I think he then 'lost his way' afterward.

I also doubt any of his family had a hand in anything remotely to do with HaLeigh's disappearance or death.

IMO this is strictly a Croslin crime.
I feel that way more so since Tommy was named a suspect and Misty the key according to LE.

Until Ron (or any of his family members) is arrested for this crime, nothing or no one can ever change my mind.
LE is the only one who could and so far they don't seem to be looking at Ron, or family, for this disappearance.
Ron is locked up for drugs as are thousands of others.
Apples and oranges. IMO

MOO though.

 

[Emeralgem]

IMO Tommy, when over visiting Misty with his kids after school HaLeigh's last day, left the back door unlocked.
Closed, but unlocked so not to be noticeable.

Since it seems pretty dark back there he may have also 'bricked' the screen/storm door too.
His plan may have been to steal Ron's gun.
... and anything he saw he wanted.

We know he was a petty thief and was often seen roaming the neighborhood at night.
We also know stolen items were found in he and Lindsay's home from these nightly excursions.

IMO, HaLeigh may have woke and he panicked and took her because he was afraid.

Since Misty has made allegations of incest against him, bolstered with Lindsay's 'your incestuous family' remark at visitation and since he (possibly)had HaLeigh anyway he molested her, killed her and dumped her into the St John's river.

What I do know is I highly doubt Ron hurt her in any way, covered for anyone who may have.
I think he then 'lost his way' afterward.I also doubt any of his family had a hand in anything remotely to do with HaLeigh's disappearance or death.

IMO this is strictly a Croslin crime.
I feel that way more so since Tommy was named a suspect and Misty the key according to LE.Until Ron (or any of his family members) is arrested for this crime, nothing or no one can ever change my mind.
LE is the only one who could and so far they don't seem to be looking at Ron, or family, for this disappearance.
Ron is locked up for drugs as are thousands of others.
Apples and oranges. IMO

MOO though.

BBM.. The proof is in the pudding IF Ron C's rap sheet is taken into consderation. IMHO Ronald L. Cummings lost his way long before Haleigh was ever falsely reported as being abducted.

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-nashville/don-t-clear-ronald-cummings-yet

Also, PCSO has never named Tommy Croslin as being a suspect..JMHO

 

[Donjeta]

Maybe they got worse but according to this article Ronald and Misty had lost their way long before Haleigh went missing.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...gs_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_l

 

[Levi]

So anyways, back to Katrina, what is a good reason she did not get any charges for driving Ron while he was instructing Misty to exchange drugs in a bathroom, instead of the car they were both in, why do I feel like I am the only one who thinks this is odd, and also shows how his "dumb" plans work. I mean, he was in the car with Katrina, instructing Misty to go into a public place with cameras (I assume) and do a drug deal, when she was sitting alone with the dude driving, why did there have to be that DRAMATIC element thrown in, why did Ron do that? I think its a fascinating glimpse into his mind, right there I have no doubts the bricked door was his total idea. But as for Katrina, why wouldn't they have charged her, and even though Ron was in the car with Katrina, and Misty in another, Katrina ended up with Mistys purse. How did that happen? Was Ron such a control freak he had her purse with him? If she did not have her purse where was she going to hide those drugs? I guess you could fit 200 pills in your pocket maybe? That whole incident is beyond sketchy, and Katrinas non arrest really makes me think she was working with the LE to save herself and she had knowledge on her daughter and Ron, and probably was carrying the burden of knowing Haleigh was dead, and her being a mother herself, knowing this, and watching Crystal deal with the unknown, and the world having all this hope that she knew was gone. Something isnt right here. jmo

I think Hope, much like Tommy... fried her brains on drugs. IMO it is POSSIBLE Hope may know something. Listen to her phone calls with her mom Katrina, she TURNED DOWN a plea deal. She would have gotten boot camp, but turned it down. Now why on earth would she turn that down, unless LE was trying to sweat her and wanted to get her to rat someone out in the Haleigh case and she refused to play ball?

Hope has gone under the radar...

 

[Emeralgem]

I think Hope, much like Tommy... fried her brains on drugs. IMO it is POSSIBLE Hope may know something. Listen to her phone calls with her mom Katrina, she TURNED DOWN a plea deal. She would have gotten boot camp, but turned it down. Now why on earth would she turn that down, unless LE was trying to sweat her and wanted to get her to rat someone out in the Haleigh case and she refused to play ball?

Hope has gone under the radar...

IMHO.. The ONLY person Hope wouldn't rat out would be Ronald Cummings.JMHO

 

[Chablis]

I think Hope, much like Tommy... fried her brains on drugs. IMO it is POSSIBLE Hope may know something. Listen to her phone calls with her mom Katrina, she TURNED DOWN a plea deal. She would have gotten boot camp, but turned it down. Now why on earth would she turn that down, unless LE was trying to sweat her and wanted to get her to rat someone out in the Haleigh case and she refused to play ball?

Hope has gone under the radar...

Yeah, you are right, that is very suspect that she turned that down, and they were not playing with her either, and now she has 15 years. I think Hope has just flew under our radar, but not LE, and why wasn't Katrina charged in the drug bust?

 

[Lanie]

How would it be possible for me to give more specific detail as to who was there and who wasn’t there when Haleigh was killed? I wasn’t there.

:waitasec:I don't understand why you feel it's necessary 'to be there' to give details of your THEORY of what you THINK happened.

I do feel for certain both Ron and Misty were present and on the scene when the incident occurred though. I also suspect Ron C is the one who is responsible for Haleigh’s demise. I suspect he shot her, not intentionally, but still, shot her and she is now deceased due to his actions .

IMHO, Ron C putting “Only God Can Judge Me” in the rear window on that truck speaks volumes in regards to him being personally involved in Haleigh’s demise.. He knows he is the one responsible for his daughter’s death. IMHO, his family is also well aware of this being the sad but non the less truthful fact.

As I see it, he and his family possess a pathetically sick mindset. They convinced themselves immediately this tragedy would have never happened IF it weren’t for Misty’s actions. They thought he should not have to be held responsible for something caused by someone else. Seems none of them are capable of taking any responsibility for any of their actions. They ONLY know how to deflect and scapegoat others in order to avoid suffering any consequences for their actions...

Paraphrasing...
You think Ron unintentionally shot Haleigh and Misty was there when it happened.
Do you think anyone else was there? Do you think Misty saw Ron shoot Haleigh?
You don't touch on it in this post, but IIRC, you said you think this happened at Hank and Lisa's place. If so, why do you think Ron, Misty and Haleigh were there instead of at home? Also, what about the cleanup? Did Ron get lucky and not leave a bullet hole?

To be honest, I suspect every Croslin initially involved that night was conned and manipulated into believing Misty was at fault and it was just an accident... IMHO This is WHY they allowed themselves to become involved with helping out and covering for Ron C instead of immediately reporting the incident to authorities. The Croslins never suspecting they were the ones being set up when... “THE TIME WAS RIGHT” (Ron C’s words, not mine).


In regards to who may have been involved in the hiding and disposal of her body I firmly believe there is a strong possibility Tommy or Ron C may have hidden Haleigh’s remains in or under that trash dumpster (the one close to Tommy’s residence) for some time until other arrangements were put into play.. The more I think about it, I’m NOW more inclined to believe Ron C may have been the one to place Haleigh in or under that dumpster. As I see it, that would definitely give him leverage in getting Tommy to do his bidding…
I also think it is highly possible Tommy and perhaps even Timmy and/or cousin Jo may have taken her to the dock. I have also entertained the thought there is a slight possibility Ron C or a member of his family may have been involved in carrying out that mission too...But since Tommy has admitted to taking her to the dock, I'll just say he is the one who most probably carried out that task...

IMO, if Ron shot Haleigh and Misty saw him do it, there is no way in he77 Misty, much less Tommy, with maybe Timmy, Chelsea and Cousin Joe thrown in, are going to be willing to help out and cover up. And it didn't stop there, either. When Tommy finally talked, what did he say about Ron shooting Haleigh? Nothing. He said Cousin Joe was the perp and he, Tommy, helped get rid of the body. What did Misty say about Ron shooting Haleigh? Nothing. She said Cousin Joe and Tommy did it while she hid under the covers terrified. At this point, Tommy, who according to your theory has done all this to protect Misty, is being sacrificed by Misty, and he still says nothing about Ron. This, IMO, is way above and beyond helping out and covering up, and IMO has gone way past anything to do with protecting Misty from whatever she needs protecting from if Ron is the one who shot Haleigh.

Do I believe she remained placed at the dock for any significant length of time? No, I do not.. I think Ron C or someone else in his immediate family removed her body almost immediately, IF not sooner and then took her to an undisclosed location…A place where no one would ever know where or how her remains were disposed of…Never to be found..

IMHO… Ron C , Misty, Tommy, Teresa Neves, GGMS are all definitely involved in the cover up. And from Chelsy's actions, and from what she has stated, could very well be she and Timmy are involved too.
Last but not least, I highly suspect there are other members of Ron C’s family who may have/had knowledge of what happened (I stated "had knowledge" due to Katrina B. NOW being deceased) I do suspect some other family members may have been called upon to discreetly organized plans to help out that night so IMHO there are definitely members within the Cummings/Neves/Sykes Clan who are involved in the cover up too.

For certain.. IMHO there isn't any Croslin who knows where Haleigh's remains are or how she was disposed of that night..

In reference to myself I personally believe by hook or crook they may just have managed to have her body cremated. IMHO.. They ALL fully realized they could never allow for her remains to be found..IMHO..They knew IF they ever were, her COD would most definitely implicate Ronald Cummings as being the one responsible..

All the above...JMHOOTS

IMHO, this theory requires way too many people involved for it to be plausible in my mind. Not only is it too many people, IMO it's too many people doing things they have no reason or motive to do.

I don't think a big number of people would be okay in getting involved in any way in the murder, disposal and cover-up of a five-year-old child. IMO, for this to work, Ron would have had to have been a lucky, lucky man to find so many of them concentrated in such a small area, who not only are willing to do this, but are also so incredibly loyal to him, especially after the way he's treated some of them.

Also, there is a timeline here. LE not knowing the exact second Haleigh was killed doesn't mean they can't narrow it down. IMO, the most the timeline can involve is from the time Haleigh got out of school until 3:27am when 911 was called. Personally, I feel LE has narrowed it down to occurring between 8pm through 3:27am. But when do you feel all this took place? According to LE, Ron was at work, but if you feel Ron had the ability to go to work and then slip in and out as he pleased with no one being the wiser, then why would he need all these people to help him out? The more people who know, the greater the liability someone will talk, and again, IMO, this is a lot of people. Some of these people have drug problems, and some of them are in prison, and still they don't talk, unless it's to make themselves look guilty.

 

[Lanie]

IMO Tommy, when over visiting Misty with his kids after school HaLeigh's last day, left the back door unlocked.
Closed, but unlocked so not to be noticeable.

Since it seems pretty dark back there he may have also 'bricked' the screen/storm door too.
His plan may have been to steal Ron's gun.
... and anything he saw he wanted.

We know he was a petty thief and was often seen roaming the neighborhood at night.
We also know stolen items were found in he and Lindsay's home from these nightly excursions.

IMO, HaLeigh may have woke and he panicked and took her because he was afraid.

At first I want to say 'no' to Tommy breaking into his sister's house, but then I remember he allegedly stole pills from his dad, so yeah, I can buy that.

IMO, LE thinks it's unlikely this was a stranger abduction, and I agree with them. Tommy is not a stranger. IMO, he and Misty seemed close, so I think it's probable he knew the layout of the house and where everyone slept.

Since Misty has made allegations of incest against him, bolstered with Lindsay's 'your incestuous family' remark at visitation and since he (possibly)had HaLeigh anyway he molested her, killed her and dumped her into the St John's river.

The incest I believe. I don't know about the molestation, though. So far I haven't seen anything to convince me Tommy is a pedophile. It makes sense, though, IMO, if Haleigh woke up and caught Tommy and started making noise, maybe he unintentionally killed her while trying to keep her quiet.

What I do know is I highly doubt Ron hurt her in any way, covered for anyone who may have.
I think he then 'lost his way' afterward.

I also doubt any of his family had a hand in anything remotely to do with HaLeigh's disappearance or death.

IMO this is strictly a Croslin crime.
I feel that way more so since Tommy was named a suspect and Misty the key according to LE.

Until Ron (or any of his family members) is arrested for this crime, nothing or no one can ever change my mind.
LE is the only one who could and so far they don't seem to be looking at Ron, or family, for this disappearance.
Ron is locked up for drugs as are thousands of others.
Apples and oranges. IMO

MOO though.

I agree with most if not all of this. But this doesn't address Ron lying to LE, which IMO he HAD to have been for him to get a plea deal.

Also, MOO, which you may not share, is it doesn't explain Misty. If Tommy is a suspect because of what he told LE, why do they still have so much interest in Misty and what she has to say?

 

[Gwen]

How would it be possible for me to give more specific detail as to who was there and who wasn’t there when Haleigh was killed? I wasn’t there.

I do feel for certain both Ron and Misty were present and on the scene when the incident occurred though. I also suspect Ron C is the one who is responsible for Haleigh’s demise. I suspect he shot her, not intentionally, but still, shot her and she is now deceased due to his actions .

IMHO, Ron C putting “Only God Can Judge Me” in the rear window on that truck speaks volumes in regards to him being personally involved in Haleigh’s demise.. He knows he is the one responsible for his daughter’s death. IMHO, his family is also well aware of this being the sad but non the less truthful fact.

As I see it, he and his family possess a pathetically sick mindset. They convinced themselves immediately this tragedy would have never happened IF it weren’t for Misty’s actions. They thought he should not have to be held responsible for something caused by someone else. Seems none of them are capable of taking any responsibility for any of their actions. They ONLY know how to deflect and scapegoat others in order to avoid suffering any consequences for their actions...

To be honest, I suspect every Croslin initially involved that night was conned and manipulated into believing Misty was at fault and it was just an accident... IMHO This is WHY they allowed themselves to become involved with helping out and covering for Ron C instead of immediately reporting the incident to authorities. The Croslins never suspecting they were the ones being set up when... “THE TIME WAS RIGHT” (Ron C’s words, not mine).


In regards to who may have been involved in the hiding and disposal of her body I firmly believe there is a strong possibility Tommy or Ron C may have hidden Haleigh’s remains in or under that trash dumpster (the one close to Tommy’s residence) for some time until other arrangements were put into play.. The more I think about it, I’m NOW more inclined to believe Ron C may have been the one to place Haleigh in or under that dumpster. As I see it, that would definitely give him leverage in getting Tommy to do his bidding…
I also think it is highly possible Tommy and perhaps even Timmy and/or cousin Jo may have taken her to the dock. I have also entertained the thought there is a slight possibility Ron C or a member of his family may have been involved in carrying out that mission too...But since Tommy has admitted to taking her to the dock, I'll just say he is the one who most probably carried out that task...
Do I believe she remained placed at the dock for any significant length of time? No, I do not.. I think Ron C or someone else in his immediate family removed her body almost immediately, IF not sooner and then took her to an undisclosed location…A place where no one would ever know where or how her remains were disposed of…Never to be found..

IMHO… Ron C , Misty, Tommy, Teresa Neves, GGMS are all definitely involved in the cover up. And from Chelsy's actions, and from what she has stated, could very well be she and Timmy are involved too.
Last but not least, I highly suspect there are other members of Ron C’s family who may have/had knowledge of what happened (I stated "had knowledge" due to Katrina B. NOW being deceased) I do suspect some other family members may have been called upon to discreetly organized plans to help out that night so IMHO there are definitely members within the Cummings/Neves/Sykes Clan who are involved in the cover up too.

For certain.. IMHO there isn't any Croslin who knows where Haleigh's remains are or how she was disposed of that night..

In reference to myself I personally believe by hook or crook they may just have managed to have her body cremated. IMHO.. They ALL fully realized they could never allow for her remains to be found..IMHO..They knew IF they ever were, her COD would most definitely implicate Ronald Cummings as being the one responsible..

All the above...JMHOOTS

I agree with almost every sentence. I only wish we knew where the others in the Cummings family were all day, evening and night.

I think it isn't over. I just really believe that Ron squirming like a worm under a glass trying to overturn his sentence is indiciative of some movement in this case. He wasn't forthcoming in his deal and he knows whatever comes after, is in addition to his current sentences.

I also note Misty has been moved to a different facility. Hope that works out for her. If I read correctly, it is for youthful offenders and she will be able to get an education and some vocational training. That in itself gives me hope she is talking.

In the meantime, I hope that those that are involved in this quagmire of deciet are squirming too!

 

[Gwen]

How would it be possible for me to give more specific detail as to who was there and who wasn’t there when Haleigh was killed? I wasn’t there.

I do feel for certain both Ron and Misty were present and on the scene when the incident occurred though. I also suspect Ron C is the one who is responsible for Haleigh’s demise. I suspect he shot her, not intentionally, but still, shot her and she is now deceased due to his actions .

IMHO, Ron C putting “Only God Can Judge Me” in the rear window on that truck speaks volumes in regards to him being personally involved in Haleigh’s demise.. He knows he is the one responsible for his daughter’s death. IMHO, his family is also well aware of this being the sad but non the less truthful fact.

As I see it, he and his family possess a pathetically sick mindset. They convinced themselves immediately this tragedy would have never happened IF it weren’t for Misty’s actions. They thought he should not have to be held responsible for something caused by someone else. Seems none of them are capable of taking any responsibility for any of their actions. They ONLY know how to deflect and scapegoat others in order to avoid suffering any consequences for their actions...

To be honest, I suspect every Croslin initially involved that night was conned and manipulated into believing Misty was at fault and it was just an accident... IMHO This is WHY they allowed themselves to become involved with helping out and covering for Ron C instead of immediately reporting the incident to authorities. The Croslins never suspecting they were the ones being set up when... “THE TIME WAS RIGHT” (Ron C’s words, not mine).


In regards to who may have been involved in the hiding and disposal of her body I firmly believe there is a strong possibility Tommy or Ron C may have hidden Haleigh’s remains in or under that trash dumpster (the one close to Tommy’s residence) for some time until other arrangements were put into play.. The more I think about it, I’m NOW more inclined to believe Ron C may have been the one to place Haleigh in or under that dumpster. As I see it, that would definitely give him leverage in getting Tommy to do his bidding…
I also think it is highly possible Tommy and perhaps even Timmy and/or cousin Jo may have taken her to the dock. I have also entertained the thought there is a slight possibility Ron C or a member of his family may have been involved in carrying out that mission too...But since Tommy has admitted to taking her to the dock, I'll just say he is the one who most probably carried out that task...
Do I believe she remained placed at the dock for any significant length of time? No, I do not.. I think Ron C or someone else in his immediate family removed her body almost immediately, IF not sooner and then took her to an undisclosed location…A place where no one would ever know where or how her remains were disposed of…Never to be found..

IMHO… Ron C , Misty, Tommy, Teresa Neves, GGMS are all definitely involved in the cover up. And from Chelsy's actions, and from what she has stated, could very well be she and Timmy are involved too.
Last but not least, I highly suspect there are other members of Ron C’s family who may have/had knowledge of what happened (I stated "had knowledge" due to Katrina B. NOW being deceased) I do suspect some other family members may have been called upon to discreetly organized plans to help out that night so IMHO there are definitely members within the Cummings/Neves/Sykes Clan who are involved in the cover up too.

For certain.. IMHO there isn't any Croslin who knows where Haleigh's remains are or how she was disposed of that night..

In reference to myself I personally believe by hook or crook they may just have managed to have her body cremated. IMHO.. They ALL fully realized they could never allow for her remains to be found..IMHO..They knew IF they ever were, her COD would most definitely implicate Ronald Cummings as being the one responsible..

All the above...JMHOOTS

I agree with almost every sentence. I only wish we knew where the others in the Cummings family were all day, evening and night.

I think it isn't over. I just really believe that Ron squirming like a worm under a glass trying to overturn his sentence is indiciative of some movement in this case. He wasn't forthcoming in his deal and he knows whatever comes after, is in addition to his current sentences.

I also note Misty has been moved to a different facility. Hope that works out for her. If I read correctly, it is for youthful offenders and she will be able to get an education and some vocational training. That in itself gives me hope she is talking.

In the meantime, I hope that those that are involved in this quagmire of deciet are squirming too!