George and Cindy in NC

[Meri]

Looking around today, this is much more common than I thought. Many stores have strict no-photo policies and those policies are enforced.

A few I ran across while looking for information...
Apple Store
Macy
Starbucks
Barnes and Noble
Whole Foods
Sears

There were a lot more. Those are just some examples.

I'm not arguing the legalities of it.

Just pointing out that it's a common policy.

My daughter was in PacSun, in the mall, taking photos of clothes that she wanted me to get her for Christmas and she was immediately stopped from doing so.

 

[Anakerie]

My daughter was in PacSun, in the mall, taking photos of clothes that she wanted me to get her for Christmas and she was immediately stopped from doing so.

OT, but it's funny when a store prohibits folks taking pictures like your daughter did.. Especially when a lot of the stores have websites with pictures of all the things they sell.. :waitasec:

Back on topic; Has anyone seen more than the two pictures of Cindy and George shopping? I'm really curious if there was one of both of them in one photo...

 

[MissJames]

OT, but it's funny when a store prohibits folks taking pictures like your daughter did.. Especially when a lot of the stores have websites with pictures of all the things they sell.. :waitasec:

Back on topic; Has anyone seen more than the two pictures of Cindy and George shopping? I'm really curious if there was one of both of them in one photo...

I don't know about this shopping trip ,but there was a picture of them shopping together in the Bahamas.

 

[Meri]

Found this - apparently it's because of the fear of a robber casing the store or terrorists:

You can join the NPPA and get an ID card.
https://www.nppa.org/member_id/

Showing the security guard a NPPA ID card at least validates you are not a terrorist or robber casing the joint. He may be more inclined to "look the other way".

I notice the annual membership is $110 though. But there's a ton of benefits that go with it. The more I read, the more I'm liking it. Hell, maybe I'll join!

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2006-08-11-photography-rights_x.htm

And yes, you can shoot on private property if it's open to the public. That includes malls, retails stores, Starbucks, banks, and office-building lobbies. If you're asked to stop and refuse, you run the risk of being charged with trespassing, but your pictures are yours. No one can legally take your camera or your memory card without a court order.

 

[LambChop]

Based on?

I'd venture a guess that since they permitted their daughter to steal from her own grandparents and never offered to pay them back, well, other than CA telling her mother she would send KC up to clean her house to compensate for the money she stole, CA was not going to do it. The bank refunded the grandparents money but the grandmother did not press charges because CA threatened not to speak to her if she did.

KC had not been near her mother's checkbook in 31 days but when CA found $200 in KC's wallet she removed it and kept it claiming it probably belonged to CA. Once CA found that KC had stolen that money, CA never offered to return the money to AH. You have just found out your daughter cleaned out this poor girl's checking account and what do you do? Why you tell LE you think she may be the Nanny. That's the A's way of doing things here. Integrity is somewhat lacking don't you think. jmo

 

[RANCH]

My daughter was in PacSun, in the mall, taking photos of clothes that she wanted me to get her for Christmas and she was immediately stopped from doing so.

I find it interesting that a business would spend millions of dollars to get images of there product out to people who could be potential buyers, and then forbid these same people to take pictures of these products.I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it doesn't make much sense.I believe the security angle about taking pictures in a mall makes sense to me.How well it's enforced in the real world is a good question. The question for this thread, is GA and CA shopping in a mall a security issue or not?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Oh, so everyone who has children who have stolen should be considered potential shoplifters?

I'm not getting it.

Are there any reports of the actual shoppers (GA or CA) ever stealing or shoplifting?

No reason why anyone should suspect the A's of shoplifting.
I'm sure that's not why security was alerted.

JMO

 

[Anakerie]

I don't know about this shopping trip ,but there was a picture of them shopping together in the Bahamas.

I remember seeing the Bahamas shopping excursion.. It's this one that sort of puzzles me.. Why would people feel "uneasy" about seeing the pair of them in a store? That thing just sounds odd to me.

My little "what if" game I'm playing goes like this:
What if the picture of George was taken by Cindy?
What if the picture of Cindy was taken by George?
What if the "uneasy" customer was Cindy herself, looking for publicity? (As in; Poor grieving grandparents can't even go shopping without being harassed.. Be sure to send donations to xxxxxfraudation.)

 

[Anakerie]

Found this - apparently it's because of the fear of a robber casing the store or terrorists:

You can join the NPPA and get an ID card.
https://www.nppa.org/member_id/




http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2006-08-11-photography-rights_x.htm

That would have been an interesting organization for me way back when I was a "stringer" for a local newspaper... lol.. Nowadays? It'd be fun to hang around my neck when I'm out and about with my cameras, but.. Nah.. I'm just a retired old lady who watches trials and takes pictures for fun now.. lol

 

[MissJames]

This is a small Southern town. The A's aren't the most popular people around.Perhaps the person who alerted security simply wanted them to know where the A's were so a security guard would be close by if other shoppers got nasty with the A's . Maybe it was for the A's protection and well-being,not the other way around.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

It's such a simple thing.

The A's were shopping in a mall.
Someone taped them and sent the video to the media.
The media (mistaking this for NEWS) reported on it.

Not really news IMO.
No conspiracy by the A's IMO.
They aren't potential shoplifters IMO.
Nobody felt threatened by them IMO.
They weren't gonna attack anybody IMO.

IMO they were just checking out clothes at a Belk. Something thousands of people do each day.

This has been blown way out of proportion IMO.

 

[LambChop]

Oh, so everyone who has children who have stolen should be considered potential shoplifters?

I'm not getting it.

Are there any reports of the actual shoppers (GA or CA) ever stealing or shoplifting?

No reason why anyone should suspect the A's of shoplifting.
I'm sure that's not why security was alerted.

JMO

Evidently most people whose children steal don't lie to keep them from getting into trouble. Originally CA testified in court and in her deposition that KC had only written checks for about $300 and charged on her card a few times without her permission. When the truth was hundreds of checks and thousands of dollars in credit card bills were recorded. This is front and center, in the news, public record and there is no way the A's will ever unwrite what is written and in the publics mind. People don't forget and people will remember that they are not trustworthy because they lied. It's human nature. jmo

 

[RANCH]

Oh, so everyone who has children who have stolen should be considered potential shoplifters?

I'm not getting it.

Are there any reports of the actual shoppers (GA or CA) ever stealing or shoplifting?

No reason why anyone should suspect the A's of shoplifting.
I'm sure that's not why security was alerted.

JMO

Your right. There is no reason for them to be shoplifting at this point. If their money stream shuts down then maybe. At this mall and at this time, I'm not sure if it's reasonable for fellow shoppers to believe they were shoplifting anything.

 

[LambChop]

I find it interesting that a business would spend millions of dollars to get images of there product out to people who could be potential buyers, and then forbid these same people to take pictures of these products.I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it doesn't make much sense.I believe the security angle about taking pictures in a mall makes sense to me.How well it's enforced in the real world is a good question. The question for this thread, is GA and CA shopping in a mall a security issue or not?

It could be the reason the larger stores do not want people with camera's in their store and taking pictures is because this is what PI's do whenever a client falls in the store and the PI's are sent out to investigate the area where their client fell. I know of no other reason why camera's would be prohibited from Sears since they sell cameras right there in the store. jmo

 

[MissJames]

Your right. There is no reason for them to be shoplifting at this point. If their money stream shuts down then maybe. At this mall and at this time, I'm not sure if it's reasonable for fellow shoppers to believe they were shoplifting anything.

We don't know that anybody thought the Anthony's might be shoplifting,only that they alerted security the Anthony's were there. I still think it was out of an abundance of caution to prevent an ugly scene with other shoppers.

 

[LambChop]

We don't know that anybody thought the Anthony's might be shoplifting,only that they alerted security the Anthony's were there. I still think it was out of an abundance of caution to prevent an ugly scene with other shoppers.

Well, that sounds just too logical, so it must be right. lol

 

[RANCH]

We don't know that anybody thought the Anthony's might be shoplifting,only that they alerted security the Anthony's were there. I still think it was out of an abundance of caution to prevent an ugly scene with other shoppers.

Oh, I agree. We don't know if the people who reported the Anthonys at this mall had any negative feelings about them at all.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

This thread has gotten way off topic. Please get back on track.

According to Fox Charlotte, George and Cindy were shopping at Belk in the Signal Hill Mall in Statesville, NC. Statesville is a small city about a half hour's drive north of Charlotte.

When you see the video, there's no doubt that it is them. People who spotted them alerted mall security.

The big question is - Why are they in NC?

http://www.foxcharlotte.com/news/top...128652408.html

I hope there is a prize for knowing the answer - cause I know!

It is really rather easy ----> FKC is back in Florida and they are on the run! .........................Next?!?!???

 

[AngelWings444]

Oh, so everyone who has children who have stolen should be considered potential shoplifters?

I'm not getting it.

Are there any reports of the actual shoppers (GA or CA) ever stealing or shoplifting?

No reason why anyone should suspect the A's of shoplifting.
I'm sure that's not why security was alerted.

JMO

There is no need for the A's to be shoplifting, they are making quite a bit off their deceased grandchild. IMO, they were out in public to do exactly what they have achieved here, GET ATTENTION for the Dr. Phil show, foundation etc. All to make $$$ to buy more clothes. :banghead:

 

[vlpate]

This thread has gotten way off topic. Please get back on track.

According to Fox Charlotte, George and Cindy were shopping at Belk in the Signal Hill Mall in Statesville, NC. Statesville is a small city about a half hour's drive north of Charlotte.

When you see the video, there's no doubt that it is them. People who spotted them alerted mall security.

The big question is - Why are they in NC?

http://www.foxcharlotte.com/news/top...128652408.html

What is this link to?

Why would security be alerted? All this tells me is they didn't have Lipman in tow with the media.