AngelWings444
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Video tape of the drive through with Officer Serino being played in court. Seems like GZ was following Trayvon for a long time. GZ's words.
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No, I think he should be held accountable for his actions. Is that so hard to understand? I just don't want to get him for any old thing. But his story doesn't add up and the circumstances surrounding the altercation are very important. This wasn't just a case of someone walking around minding his own business and Trayvon attacked him. He followed a kid, made him feel uneasy or threatened or whatever and Trayvon reacted. If this ended up any other way then Trayvon would need to be held accountable for his actions as well. But he's dead so that can't happen.
It doesn't make it murder, but come on. He is not completely innocent here. And I haven't chosen to completely take him at his work because his story doesn't add up and I do not belive he was walking back to his truck when Trayvon attacked him. I don't believe that based on the evidence before you say so. Based on the testimony of the girl who was on the phone when the fight started and based on the layout of the area.
If you believe that the shooter should always be held accountable, then you should work to have the laws changed. I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of the states have self defense laws which relieve the shooter of accountability when they are defending their life or defending against serious bodily injury. JMO, OMO, MOO.
I would have loved GZ as a neighbor.
JMO
Hollow point bullets - the type GZ had in his gun - are designed to do maximum tissue damage:I don't own a gun and have never been in a physical altercation, but if someone were on top of me bashing my head and I became so afraid that I shot him, I wouldn't go back for more assaults.
It's kind of an artifact of shoot-em-up TV shows that people die quickly from one bullet. More typically, it takes more shots to kill or the person is able to recover fully from one shot.
I wouldn't get close enough to be assaulted again.
A hollow-point bullet is an expanding bullet that has a pit or hollowed out shape in its tip, often intended to cause the bullet to expand upon entering a target in order to decrease penetration and disrupt more tissue as it travels through the target. It is also used for controlled penetration, where over-penetration could cause collateral damage (such as on an aircraft). In target shooting, they are used for greater accuracy and reduction of smoke, fouling, and lead vapour exposure, as hollow point bullets have an enclosed base while traditional bullets have an exposed lead base. In essence, the hollow point bullet has several purposes: hollow points are designed to increase in diameter once within the target, thus maximizing tissue damage and blood loss or shock, and to remain inside the target, thereby transferring all of its kinetic energy to that target (some fraction would remain in the bullet if it passed through instead). Jacketed hollow points (JHPs) or plated hollow points are covered in a coating of harder metal (usually a copper alloy or copper coated steel) to increase bullet strength and to prevent fouling the barrel with lead stripped from the bullet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-point_bullet
Three fragments of the projectile are recovered. The lead core is recovered in the periocardial sac behind the right ventricle. Two fragments of the jacket are recovered in the right pleural cavity of the right lobe of the lung.
The injuries associated with the wound: perforations of left anterior fifth intercostal space, periocardial sac, right ventricle of the heart, lower lobe of the lung with approximately 1300 millileters of blood in the right pleural cavity and 1000 in the left pleural cavity; the collapse of both lungs.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/trayvon.martin.autopsy.pdf
It was a picture of his pants on a table. It clearly showed staining of some kind. I can not link it because it was on a blog.. but I searched TM's pant grass stains and hit images..
GZ comes across as mild mannered to me. I just don't see the angry, hostile gun-toting paranoid that state has tried to make him out to be. Just the opposite. JMO, OMO, MOO.
But I never said that I believe that...
That's how your comment came across to me. You seem to want to make an exception for GZ that doesn't legally exist. And I say that as an anti-gun liberal who doesn't think citizens should be walking around with guns. But that's the law and we can't disregard the law just because of the tragic nature of this case. JMO, OMO, MOO.