Germanwings Airbus crash 24 March #1

[Trident]

The intention was to destroy the plane. [emoji17]

Co pilot's nationality was GERMAN.

What, EXACTLY, does being GERMAN have to do with this?

I believe either this man was schizophrenic, or a terrorist. In today's world, a lot of people called British, Swedish, German, whatever, are not, they come from the middle east, Africa, ANYWHERE. Nationality, so called, is no longer a trustworthy yardstick with diversity running the show.

 

[Dr. Know?]

According to a report from 2013 the Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) recognized Lubitz for having completed and FAA Airmen Certification and indicated he had "exceeded the high educational, licensing and medical standards established by the FAA."

These included passing a physical examination by an FAA-authorized medical examiner. According to the report, several medical conditions would disqualify someone from achieving the certification:


"Bipolar disease, cardiac valve replacement, coronary heart disease, diabetes mellitus requiring hypoglycemic medications, disturbance of consciousness without satisfactory explanation of cause, epilepsy, heart replacement, Myocardial infarction, permanent cardiac pacemaker, personality disorder that is severe enough to have repeatedly manifested itself by overt acts, psychosis, substance abuse, substance dependence, transient loss of control of nervous system function(s) without satisfactory explanation of cause."

Spohr said the co-pilot was "successful in all of the psychological and medical tests" and had even "passed them with flying colors."

http://mashable.com/2015/03/26/germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link

 

[Intermezzo]

He has also said that at this moment in time they do not see the need to change this policy

IMO they need to revisit that decision to not change the policy..

 

[michmi]

It seems that while there is a key code that can get someone into the cockpit, that code can still be locked so nobody can get in, which they think is what happened here. I think this procedure needs to be looked at again and the pilot, since he/she generally has the most air time, needs to have a secondary code that can get him in, overriding any lock-out procedure.

 

[Snick1946]

What, EXACTLY, does being GERMAN have to do with this?

I think the poster was trying to debunk ideas that the co pilot was Islamic. It was not some anti-German thing.

Maybe we all need to take a break awhile- this is just way too much to adjust to emotionally.

 

[gregjrichards]

Any word on who the third american is yet.?

Not yet only the names of the mother and daughter who have sadly died have been released.

 

[gregjrichards]

IMO they need to revisit that decision to not change the policy..

I agree 100%

 

[Dr. Know?]

ABC News ‏@ABC · 4m4 minutes ago
Co-pilot of crashed #Germanwings airliner underwent training in Arizona, a senior US official tells @ABC News - @JoshMargolin

(back when 9/11 happened, many were training out here in AZ)

 

[CARIIS]

The CEO mentioned testing, could have been to determine acceptance to the training program (I didn't hear this part clearly). Anyone?

As an aside, a German exchange student who stayed with us took some sort of test and was rejected as a candidate. As I understand, this test can only be taken once and the rejection is permanent. Could this bee a psychological testing?

He reported they do not do any psyc specfic testing but rely on observation during training and on the line by peers to reports concerns!

 

[trigger]

Just heard about all of this.

My heart is full of sadness.

Have authorities searched the co-pilot home?

 

[Snick1946]

IMO they need to revisit that decision to not change the policy..

And you can bet they will. Right now they are in damage control mode.

This is going to affect attitudes toward commercial aviation. My God, we not only need to worry about armed terrorists but also about suicidal pilots? Sorry to say, maybe there needs to be someone assigned to cockpits to watch the crew!

 

[CARIIS]

whoah CARIIS lol Epic linkage

yes blew my mind wowa! i got rid of it i think!

 

[gregjrichards]

CEO just did a great job in presser, IMO. Honest. Answered all.

Yes it was a refreshing change after the carry on from the guy in charge of Malaysia Airlines during those incidents.

 

[luckyme]

Just heard about all of this.

My heart is full of sadness.

Have authorities searched the co-pilot home?

They are there right now. moo

 

[Madeleine74]

I feel this is "employer"/ employee revenge deal

Respectfully, you might feel it, but at this time there is no information or evidence of it.

He just as well could have had a mental break or something that had nothing to do with his employer.

 

[Jennibee]

Seeing the picture of the baby and Mother...I can't deal with it.

I haven't been able to get much work done today and keep having to go to the loo to cry.

This is so upsetting.

 

[CARIIS]

Maybe it was his intention that the passengers wouldn't find out by his somewhat slow descend. But of course they would at the end, and with the captain banging on the door. I am sure had the captain managed to crack the door, the co-pilot would have just put the stick forward. Then why keep flying like that? I just don't get it. Incredibly cruel and selfish act by a mentally ill man IMO.

I think his thought pattern (unlike EGYPT AIr) he wanted it to look like an accidnet and figured if he slammed hard the recorders would be too damaged ANd hey it appears he was 50% correct.

 

[Trident]

I think the poster was trying to debunk ideas that the co pilot was Islamic. It was not some anti-German thing.

Maybe we all need to take a break awhile- this is just way too much to adjust to emotionally.

Thing is, do we KNOW that? I don't know that, I don't know much of anything except what I'm being "told" on TV.

I just got here after listening to this all morning on the news. I have a LOT of questions, but a break isn't something "I" need right now. I've ridden these airbuses, and may do so in the future. Yeah, I have a LOT of questions.

 

[CARIIS]

Can you imagine being a passenger on board and watching from your seat the captain banging on the door???? Must have been awful!!!!!!

I thought about that too. has to have been awful

 

[Snick1946]

They are there right now. moo

They are. When something like this happens I listen to a lot of news coverage from various sources via internet radio. The CBC (Canadian) had a story on about 30 minutes ago that his home (or apartment) was being searched, very heavy security in the area.

You have to wonder- even if this guy was not an Islamist, could he have been influenced by some of the garbage they have out there on line? Someone unstable can easily be prodded into something like this.