Gilbert Attorney: Escort's Affidavit Implicates James Burke in GB Murders

[Neptune]

'Just to clarify (since NIN was responding to my post)

There were two different people mentioned and some people were wondering if "Leanne" was confused as to the actual name. Somewhat similar names: Feinberg (suicide by train/Suffolk employee accused of sexual abuse, did not own OB property - see link below) AND Feingold (former owner of Savannah Walk property in OB)

http://www.indyeastend.com/Articles...-Action-Continues-After-Apparent-Suicide.html

I just now realized what you are talking about. Just noticed Nin wrote Feinberg. I responded with Feingold in Oak Beach because Feingold is on affidavit. Glad we cleared this up -- thanks!

 

[No it's not]

This civil case is long past discovery phase and Hackett has made a motion for summary judgment – am I wrong? This move by John Ray today is a desperate play to tie Hackett to Burke and both to the murders of many people.

This is Ray’s wacky equation:
Shannan + Hackett + Oak Beach = Hackett + ((Burke - 20 years ago) + pay for sex + OB parties) = 2 serial killers of 10 people some dismembered and others wrapped in burlap + (Shannan + paid for sex + OB party)

John Ray is using buzzwords to make his case, not evidence.

Leanne’s affidavit, which I actually believe, does not in any way give Ray’s case against Hackett “weight”. It makes it less credible. Making the sweeping assumption that 2 people are involved in a serious crime together because they worked for the same organization on the same case 20 years ago is called "reaching" and it shows poor judgment. If Ray had actual evidence of Hackett and Burke knowing and interacting with each other in the pertinent timeframe that would be a different matter entirely. Sorry, Nin.

Ray claims, that Hackett's phone number is listed in Burke's either address book or something to that avail (cell phone contacts?), which according to him would link Hackett to Burke. The question is in what relation is this contact to be categorized?

Also, Ray was pointing out, that he had more evidence (for what?). Point is, that Ray and his witness are strongly suggesting, that Oak Beach was indeed a location of partying with escorts (?) and at least one higher ranking SCPD official actively present while the investigation, the search for SG, was ongoing.

In the end, SG was found not far from Hackett's property. His calls to SG's mother first refuted and then confirmed put him right in the middle of all this. What role, if any, did he really play? His contact is found among Burke's contact list (?) and Burke accused of beating a suspect in custody, threatening to kill him and then coercing his fellow officers into covering up the misconduct is somehow connected to Hackett. Add to that Leanne's description of a rather sexually volatile acting JB.

All of it, but esp. the listed contact may warrant having Ray questioning Burke and that's why I said Ray is trying to keep his civil lawsuit going. Not saying in any way, that Hackett is or is not involved. I can just see and claerly hear, that John Ray want's to question Burke. Whatever it leads up to.

-Nin

 

[Danse_Macabre]

I seem to recall (should read over my notes) when Ray was on the radio show last month, he indicated that he'd reveal some news in the coming weeks. Guess now we know what he meant.

To clear that up. Leanne contacted me on twitter Monday, Josh and I interviewed her Tuesday. We then worked with John Ray for a hand off. Then he decided to hold a press conf in which Josh and I attended. So, John Ray just became aware of Leanne this week.

 

[bessie]

To clear that up. Leanne contacted me on twitter Monday, Josh and I interviewed her Tuesday. We then worked with John Ray for a hand off. Then he decided to hold a press conf in which Josh and I attended. So, John Ray just became aware of Leanne this week.

Thanks for the clarification, and congratulations again

 

[pineappleexpress]

To clear that up. Leanne contacted me on twitter Monday, Josh and I interviewed her Tuesday. We then worked with John Ray for a hand off. Then he decided to hold a press conf in which Josh and I attended. So, John Ray just became aware of Leanne this week.

I hope this leads to who is responsible for these horrible murders. I think there is more then one killer and it was covered up by Burke. That is just a guess though. I think Burke knows (if not involved) in some of the murders. I say I am 90% he is involved in some way in SG murder.

 

[caribou_birdie]

Well the Gilbert family attorney John Ray is facilitating interview & we all know he never misses a moment to grab media attention.

This man even turned Shannan's burial into a gratuitous press conference imho


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Yes he did. I thought it was tasteless!

 

[MissAmyLynn]

I think Burke definitely knows more than just who did it, I think hes involved. Police officers and serial killers can have quite a bit in common, and who better to investigate the killer, as well as hide who actually committed the murders, than the killer/killers. Makes sense, I would think after all these years they would have a lot more on this killer/killers, and now we hear about this corruption. Also, more and more is coming out how this investigation is becoming more attached to certain police officers, and women have terrible stories to tell about these men. I would say it surprises me that police officers could be involved in so many murders, or could possibly even be serial killers, but sadly it doesn't. Like I said they can have a lot of the same characteristics and behaviors. Look at past serial killers who were also police officers, there's more out there than you would think. It does not surprise me these days, but it sure does sadden me, shame on those men. It also is very suspicious that the show the killing season uncovered more about the investigation than the police "supposedly" did.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Wow, this case has been blown wide open. Hopefully, the dam has broken. Finally justice may be served. I'm sure there's much scurrying around by nervous people. Hawkshaw must be partying now I think Josh and Rachel have stirred things up

 

[Neptune]

Point is, that Ray and his witness are strongly suggesting, that Oak Beach was indeed a location of partying with escorts (?) and at least one higher ranking SCPD official actively present while the investigation, the search for SG, was ongoing.

Leanne’s story seems credible and paints a picture of events that happen in Oak Beach that are consistent with what Shannan may have experienced. Yes, we should be appalled by LE’s participation in those events. But that’s as far as Ray should have taken it. IMO

In the end, SG was found not far from Hackett's property.

“Far” is a relative description – “found yards away”, not so much. Ray’s manipulation of information to fit his version of events should be a big red flag for all of us who know the facts about Shannan’s case better than the general public. I’d love to call a press conference and name names and then cite my instincts as the source of my assertions and link events in the most optimal way to enhance my case – but there are laws against this! Ray has a professional duty. Leanne’s statement, although enlightening, was not proof.

I’m not trying to play devil’s advocate for no reason, Nin, I respect your views. And the fact is the info that came out yesterday benefited my research in that it geographically placed my POI very close to Burke's playtime activities. As I’ve said in other posts – high-powered men don’t clean up their own messes. There is a hierarchy. I do think Burke's is involved, but I disagree with Ray’s low-standard MO. He is steering public thinking away from other plausible suspects because he’s so myopically focused on Hackett. How fair is that to Shannan?

 

[No it's not]

Leanne’s story seems credible and paints a picture of events that happen in Oak Beach that are consistent with what Shannan may have experienced. Yes, we should be appalled by LE’s participation in those events. But that’s as far as Ray should have taken it. IMO



“Far” is a relative description – “found yards away”, not so much. Ray’s manipulation of information to fit his version of events should be a big red flag for all of us who know the facts about Shannan’s case better than the general public. I’d love to call a press conference and name names and then cite my instincts as the source of my assertions and link events in the most optimal way to enhance my case – but there are laws against this! Ray has a professional duty. Leanne’s statement, although enlightening, was not proof.

I’m not trying to play devil’s advocate for no reason, Nin, I respect your views. And the fact is the info that came out yesterday benefited my research in that it geographically placed my POI very close to Burke's playtime activities. As I’ve said in other posts – high-powered men don’t clean up their own messes. There is a hierarchy. I do think Burke's is involved, but I disagree with Ray’s low-standard MO. He is steering public thinking away from other plausible suspects because he’s so myopically focused on Hackett. How fair is that to Shannan?

Neptune,

I fully understand your point of view and even agree with what you are saying. I was just trying to see it from Ray's perspective. He thinks Leanne's account of events will add weight so he can question Burke, as Burke is connected to Hackett (according to Ray). Hackett's involvement would require his family to be involved, which I cannot see at all.

-Nin

 

[No it's not]

To clear that up. Leanne contacted me on twitter Monday, Josh and I interviewed her Tuesday. We then worked with John Ray for a hand off. Then he decided to hold a press conf in which Josh and I attended. So, John Ray just became aware of Leanne this week.

Strange, as I recall too JR announcing he had a witness placing someone of relevance into Oak Beach. I am not sure, if this was said during the WS radio show, or even prior to that. Have to check that out. Thanks for the info.

-Nin

 

[Wasp27]

Josh and Rachel- Hackett is connected to Burke as we learned from the 90s...now Leanne places Burke at oak beach sex parties during the time frame of murders... the connections are too obvious to ignore. Kudos to you guys for going to try and talk to Hackett even though he hides out like a coward and has his wife answer....I don't even give an eff anymore the new scpd aka sini need to stop Pussy footing around this *****!!!!!!!!

 

[Wasp27]

Oh and I personally commend ray for his speech st shannens burial....murderer, in whatever way and whatever fashion is what you are!!!!!!!!

 

[Neptune]

To clear that up. Leanne contacted me on twitter Monday, Josh and I interviewed her Tuesday. We then worked with John Ray for a hand off. Then he decided to hold a press conf in which Josh and I attended. So, John Ray just became aware of Leanne this week.

So John Ray meets Leanne for the first time on Wednesday, thoroughly fact-checks her story, has her sign an engagement letter, drafts up the affidavit, and by Thursday morning has issued an alert to the media and holds a press conference. Wow, nothing exploitive about that.

 

[bessie]

Did Attorney John Ray time this to coincide w/ The DNA match of Hempstead Lake park torso "Peaches" & Gilgo Beach remains the other day?

Back to James Burke is there a detailed history on James Burke - I have seen a bunch of material that paints a brutal picture but is verifiable?

Well, here's a start. Check out the document links.

http://www.vice.com/read/the-strange-rise-and-violent-fall-of-long-islands-dirtiest-police-chief

http://www.newsweek.com/james-burke...ederal-prosecutor-us-attorney-district-411386

 

[khofman]

To clear that up. Leanne contacted me on twitter Monday, Josh and I interviewed her Tuesday. We then worked with John Ray for a hand off. Then he decided to hold a press conf in which Josh and I attended. So, John Ray just became aware of Leanne this week.

Is there a link to the full press conference? I got busy @ work this week and only able to find local news highlights.

So Leanne came forward to Rachael on Twitter before the Peaches press. Very interesting...


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[bessie]

Is there a link to the full press conference? I got busy @ work this week and only able to find local news highlights.

So Leanne came forward to Rachael on Twitter before the Peaches press. Very interesting...


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It's not so surprising. The docu-series garnered a lot of attention, and made some individuals feel it was the right time to speak up. Finally, in their view, there were two interested researchers ready to listen with an open mind.

Regarding Leanne, it's possible that she was vetted quickly because she had knowledge of a piece of previously withheld intel. Or, Ray might have known her story, but had been unable to locate her, or get her to agree to a sitdown. Josh and Rachel, in their own way, might have provided the reassurance she needed.

Try the link in this post for the presser.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13005627

 

[kat913]

Also w/Burke arrested and confined...people are bound to speak with a little less fear.

 

[Puggle]

I think she came forward because .... in her own words.....
she was thrown under the bus!!

Whilst her telling her story about her encounter with Burke is Huge ......

I think the even bigger news story should be ...Confidential Informant outed to possible POI ....by police!! ........That in itself should be the BIG news story.

 

[Puggle]

I'd be going public in her situation .......I mean she calls in a tip about someone she thinks could be a serial killer ..... and the cops tell the guy she called it in !!!

Crap as if that hasn't put a big enough target on her back as it is ..... What if her POI is the killer?? ..... well Id be guessing she'd be next on his list now thanks to LE.

What was the name of the guy she reported it to .... I kept trying to write it down....was it Bertolli ...or Petrolli ...something like that? ..... whos this guy and what vested interest would he have to tell the guy she called a tip in on him?