Charlot123
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Interesting beginning of the article- about the seasonality of the crimes
I am going back to what I think is the beginning of Shannan's thread. I want to be enlightened. Altho it's going to be a long night. I'll probably end of crossed eyed.I put this here because I want to listen to and read her 911 call.![]()
Chilling 911 calls released in Shannan Gilbert case that led to serial killer probe
A troubled and confused Gilbert repeatedly claims to dispatchers early on May 1, 2010, “something is going to happen to me.”nypost.com
It’s my personal belief that Shannan wasn’t murdered.
Hi Otto!
How do you know convicted sex trafficker MP and Joseph Brewer (a man with "an appetite for paid sex" *article linked*), who allegedly hired a specific sex worker from farther away that would have to travel hours+ there and back that night when he could've called a girl to be over in no time..., truly genuinely wanted to help her? How the hell would we know that? These men are VERY sketchy, at best. The 911 call TO ME suggests that Shannan was drugged and MP was bringing a cattle to slaughter so to speak in some way or another, for money or to save his own butt or otherwise.
Listening to the 911 call, you hear others talk besides Shannan, and they do not give me the impression of being helpful kind men trying to assist her. That's my opinion of course.
Was her cellphone still on when she ran into the marsh? Was she still on the phone with 911? We've never heard the ending of this call.
Then there's this whole mess...
It makes more sense that something bad happened than just some "freak accident". Fascinating to me always, regardless of what caused her to tragically meet her end, is how police searching for her stumbled across all the others. Still don't personally think RH was involved now that we know RH but we shall see.
Yes, sorry I saw a post by you later and I did go back and edit to reflect that. I did think you were saying they might be simply moving stuff out for her bc she didn't live there anymore and wanted her belongings. That was my mistake. Apologies again.BBM above
Basically agree with both
Apologies if you gleaned I was discussing moving someone moving out of the house?
I was merely pointing out that even though ths son now owned the house and the mother no longer lived there - many items could have initially belonged to the mother.
I don't think anyone has counted anyone out, and I don't think they said they were responsible except for a time JB, but that they engaged to keep it quiet, not investigate, and remove the FBI because of their own misdeeds, IIRC. There are still 6 victims. MOOI remember when everyone thought SCPD was responsible for the murders. Now seeing this, I wonder if they're still dirty in the case as in knowing who was responsible, etc.
Yeah, CS. I just know hawk's pov over the years and his info regarding Burke and Spota was on the money. I don't really know anything about CS but it sounds somewhat similar.
Massapequa or Massachusets? Still trying to figure out his connection to Manorville, NY where two of the torsos were found. I live around the corner from there, and always wondered about the connection.
Edited to add: I wonder if he knew Bitrolff
I am from South Carolina Charlotte is in North CarolinaI am thinking about other houses, that in So. Carolina and in Las Vegas. There is a chance that at least one of them has been turned into Airbnb and looks much better than his Long Island house. BTW, he said he was handy, so I think the lack of interest in the family house indicates something (unhappy with the family situation and in denial? Distracted by something else?)
However, all his classmates said that he was definitely very smart. It seems that some of his clients got irritated with his perfectionism, but others, liked it and valued his expertise.
So, obviously he is not a stupid man. As such, he has to understand that a lot of bodies in one neighborhood sooner or later might converge on the perpetrator. Logically, if he hunts near his lair, he probably would move to one of other houses and hunt there.
Now, I don’t know where his So. Carolina house is. If it is Charlotte or a touristy place in the vicinity of Hilton head, he won’t stand out. If it is in more rural area, he’d probably not hunt there. Las Vegas and Reno are full of tourists and sex workers, so, quite possible.
I've seen comments like this before. I'm not familiar with a lot of US media so, why is the NYPost considered "trash"?So sorry for a NY Post (trash) link but the voicemail is (somewhat) significant.
Creepy voicemail left by accused Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann revealed by designer: ‘I had a question for you’
another Amityville horror!Here's hoping that the storage unit in Amityville has loads more evidence.
I'm aware, but the victims' lawyer/advocate has regularly stated he believes Shannan is a victim of LISK. He is a respectable and passionate man so I take his opinions and takes seriously.
It's a sensational tabloid that that cherry picks what they do and don't report. It is extremely biased and owned by a business magnate who is known to create and then fan flames that cause political discord for his own financial gain.I've seen comments like this before. I'm not familiar with a lot of US media so, why is the NYPost considered "trash"?
Shocked we haven't seen him. Hope he comes back soon.I'm anxiously waiting for Hawk to make an appearance since RH's arrest! RH used "Hawk" in some of his screenames/email addresses and I'm sure our Hawkshaw got a nice eye roll from that.