Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #5

[SonsOfCain]

maybe he asked them if they knew about the LISK in his neighborhood...? mOO

I wouldn’t doubt it. He seemed to like to bring it up a lot..specifically around women.

 

[iamshadow21]

From NY Magazine, Intelligencer:
My Boss, the Monster

"When I first met Rex Heuermann in his midtown office, his face turned red like that of a shy teenage boy who had been surprised by a hot girl in the cafeteria. (Even sitting behind his desk, he looked to me like a giant.) His office was mostly staffed by women like myself, young and petite, the girl-next-door type. We knew he was married with a family in Massapequa, but he never spoke of them. Just a few months earlier, authorities say he murdered his first known victim, 25-year-old Maureen Brainard-Barnes.

Heuermann and his firm specialized in building-code and zoning analysis. A former colleague of mine described how he worked closely with the Department of Buildings following the passage of the Americans With Disabilities Act to understand how to bring building design into compliance. During this time, he cemented his expertise and his relationships within the DOB, which could make or break any project. Whether or not he had any real political clout, he believed he did and tried to convince others that he did, too. If you needed a permit reconsidered, he said he could ask the examiner on their hunting trip that weekend on Long Island or upstate to hunt deer and elk with a rifle."

Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

 

[Yemelyan]

AC victims were missing shoes & socks

As far as I know, Gilgo Beach victims were “missing personal items”. I never heard what those items were, specifically. I don’t know if that was ever disclosed.

The bail application states that the four Gilgo victims "all had missing clothing and personal possessions," that's from page 3 of the document. For me, that's vague - does it mean found completely nude? Does it mean partially clothed with some items missing? I would argue that "missing clothing" would not lead me to think only shoes and socks were missing like was the case for the AC 4.

As for personal possessions, in "Lost Girls," the author describes the items that Shannan would normally bring with her when she worked: "a tall soda from McDonald's, often spiked with vodka; a bag with extra clothes; her purse; a book from one of her online college classes; and a netbook she'd use to post and refresh her Craigslist profile."

One would assume that most women working the same way would bring similar personal possessions with them as they worked long hours and sometimes saw 7 or 8 clients each night (from the same source). I think this is why LE was searching for things like condoms, bibles - they are looking for stuff they knew these women had with them when they worked.

 

[crhedBngr]

Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

RBBM

Yes, indeed!

JMVHO.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*I guess they did report a freezer and a fridge both being hauled away:

Some neighbors recalled that when Rex Heuermann's father lived in that same house, he used to go jogging. They said he went jogging with an axe. That rumor is unconfirmed.

One neighbor recalled walking past the house a few years ago, after a storm. Heuermann and his son were there, clearing the yard of branches, chopping the wood. “I guess you’ll have firewood for a year now,” said the neighbor. Heuermann nodded. But there was no conversation.

A refrigerator and a freezer were wheeled out of the house into vans around 2 p.m.

The serial killer next door: Gilgo Task Force seizes refrigerator, freezer, 2 cars at his Massapequa house - NewsBreak

He was a mystery, this successful architect who grew up and lived in a little red house with green trim in Massapequa Park, a quiet, quaint community of ordinary people where an architect lived.

original.newsbreak.com

 

[helpfulcharlie]

Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

(BBM)
I agree with you, at least partially. But also, might he have been trying to assess just how screwed he was at that precise moment? Meaning, if it's not in the news, that would indicate the investigation might be at the early stages and he might breathe a sigh of relief that he's just a suspect and not THE SUSPECT. But if it's in the news, they've got enough evidence that they were willing to publicize that. I hope my rambling is coherent today.

 

[Barbie619]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683864529627754497

Live on YouTube NOW Live from lisk Rex HEUERMANN press conference

The Presser was at 12:30 EST and it's been over for over 15 minutes now. The guy doing the youtube did a terrible job videoing this, no sound or barely any sound, long distance from the podium and cursing left and right, which was funny considering the seriousness of the moment.

 

[x_files]

Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

"I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it."

He's just now an INFAMOUS LOSER!


BRAVA! Standing ovation.

 

[Odeto BJ]

Thank you! I'm not sure what I'm seeing. It doesn't look as though there's a top on it. Unless, of course, It's a dog kennel and it's upside down.

Could be wrong but: in the photo the wire frame thing in the back of the truck appears to be on casters. I would suggest it is a security cart for evidence, that the investigators brought with them...

Something like this....

Security Cart - 60 x 24 x 69

Safely store and transport costly items to reduce theft. Lockable double doors for maximum security. Two heavy-duty shelves adjust in 1" increments. Maneuvers easily on 5" lockable swivel casters. Optional Padlocks and Wire Shelving Accessories available.ULINE offers over 41,000 boxes, plastic...

www.uline.com

JMO

 

[Justice101]

*I guess they did report a freezer and a fridge both being hauled away:

Some neighbors recalled that when Rex Heuermann's father lived in that same house, he used to go jogging. They said he went jogging with an axe. That rumor is unconfirmed.

One neighbor recalled walking past the house a few years ago, after a storm. Heuermann and his son were there, clearing the yard of branches, chopping the wood. “I guess you’ll have firewood for a year now,” said the neighbor. Heuermann nodded. But there was no conversation.

A refrigerator and a freezer were wheeled out of the house into vans around 2 p.m.

The serial killer next door: Gilgo Task Force seizes refrigerator, freezer, 2 cars at his Massapequa house - NewsBreak

He was a mystery, this successful architect who grew up and lived in a little red house with green trim in Massapequa Park, a quiet, quaint community of ordinary people where an architect lived.

original.newsbreak.com

Well, everyone's got a fridge and a freezer. And all of us have stains in the trays. Probably looking at that and if he stored any body parts in there.. < hated to even type that.

 

[fred&edna]

I swear I saw a video with the SC DA and he seems to say that maybe RH's DNA hasn't been entered into state and national databases... because of laws. That it's only usually done if there's a "conviction". WHAT?? Maybe I misunderstood! I'm trying to find another acceptable link to post. Did anyone else hear similar??

Starting at approx 3:08

 

[Justice101]

"Some neighbors recalled that when Rex Heuermann's father lived in that same house, he used to go jogging. They said he went jogging with an axe. That rumor is unconfirmed."

That sounds like a bad joke

 

[LadyL]

I wouldn’t doubt it. He seemed to like to bring it up a lot..specifically around women.

I've only heard of the one sw he brought it up to at dinner. Were there others?

 

[iamshadow21]

Well, everyone's got a fridge and a freezer. And all of us have stains in the trays. Probably looking at that and if he stored any body parts in there.. < hated to even type that.

If he was a hunter, he may have had a dedicated freezer just for that. And who goes digging through that kind of thing? If it was downstairs, well, we know his wife is disabled, it would be easy enough to be the one to retrieve some duck or venison when needed. Who looks down to the very bottom? I'm presuming that there weren't actual human remains found in the searches this week, but there would be blood traces all over that kind of freezer which would all need to be tested to see if they are human. And depending on the size of it, a small or dismembered human body could fit in a chest freezer easily. You could fit at least two in mine, if it wasn't filled with ice cream and leftovers so iced up they're impossible to identify.

MOO

 

[LadyL]

"Some neighbors recalled that when Rex Heuermann's father lived in that same house, he used to go jogging. They said he went jogging with an axe. That rumor is unconfirmed."

That sounds like a bad joke

What's the source of this please?

 

[fred&edna]

I'm trying to research NY's DNA Databank. I see the BBM part.


Presently, any offender convicted of a New York State felony offense or Penal Law misdemeanor is required to provide a DNA sample for inclusion in the Databank. This requirement applies to anyone convicted on or after August 1, 2012; the law does not apply to juvenile delinquents, whose cases are handled in Family Courts, or individuals granted youthful offender status by the court, which results in their conviction being sealed except in limited circumstances allowed by law. The Databank also includes samples from offenders who provided them under certain circumstances outlined in state regulation.

Additional Information​

The New York State DNA Databank was established by law in 1994 and began operating in 1996. At that time, only offenders convicted of certain offenses were required to provide DNA samples.

The list of crimes that require a DNA sample upon conviction has been expanded five times, most recently in 2012. In addition to requiring DNA samples upon conviction for felony offenses and all Penal Law misdemeanors, the 2012 law expanded a criminal defendant’s access to pre- and post-conviction DNA testing in certain circumstances.

In addition, state regulations permit the release of partial DNA matches that meet certain criteria to law enforcement agencies for investigative purposes and allow law enforcement agencies to request a familial search of the DNA Databank in connection with unsolved, serious crimes. Information in the Databank is protected by state law and by comprehensive internal procedures. The intentional disclosure of a DNA record to an unauthorized person or agency or the intentional use or receipt of DNA records for an unauthorized purpose is a felony.

NYS DNA Databank and Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) - NY DCJS

Research the Databank law and qualifying Offenses. DNA Databank Statistics updated frequently. Learn how the DNA Databank came to be and how it is organized.

www.criminaljustice.ny.gov

JMO but if RH's DNA isn't immediately entered into CODIS... I'm gonna' be MAD!

 

[DSCrime]

Does this kind of wannabe behaviour remind anyone else of those other serial killers who always wanted to be cops or special forces or whatever but couldn't get in, and so they hang out at cop bars and buy exsquad cars and play pretend that they're the Big Man but at the same time, they secretly know they're not good enough, so they take that thwarted rage out on women (or whoever their chosen victims might be)?

RH strikes me as someone who wanted to be a mover and shaker in NY property and construction. As someone who has power and makes connections. And instead, he's this guy who's an awkward braggart with fashion still stuck in about 1979, whose home is filling up and falling down, who killed at least four vibrant, troubled, loved, complicated, young women because he can't handle what a nonevent his entire existence is without 'winning' by destroying somebody else, someone he knows he can destroy because he never picked a fight with anyone who stood a chance against him.

His devices are filled with communication with sex workers and searches for violent, disturbing SAM featuring women, teens, children, and 'twinks'. He's got enough guns for an army. He's put in jail and he has one question - 'is it in the news?'

I would question, is he really asking, 'am I somebody, now?'

No, dude. You've never been smaller or less significant in your life. Get used to it.

MOO

(BBM)
I agree with you, at least partially. But also, might he have been trying to assess just how screwed he was at that precise moment? Meaning, if it's not in the news, that would indicate the investigation might be at the early stages and he might breathe a sigh of relief that he's just a suspect and not THE SUSPECT. But if it's in the news, they've got enough evidence that they were willing to publicize that. I hope my rambling is coherent today.

@helpfulcharlie I also thought something similar. When he was arrested, reportedly he kept quiet and asked for a lawyer right away. I think he was trying to assess the situation. This is a guy who was interacting with escorts, and he knew he was doing something illegal, but maybe he thought he wasn't, as you said, THE SUSPECT.

But I also think it's his reported tendency to brag that will finally make him crack & talk to police. I think it may take some time but eventually he will.

 

[minazoe]

I've only heard of the one sw he brought it up to at dinner. Were there others?

yes, there was a young woman who worked for him, he would bring it up..mOO

 

[minazoe]

@helpfulcharlie I also thought something similar. When he was arrested, reportedly he kept quiet and asked for a lawyer right away. I think he was trying to assess the situation. This is a guy who was interacting with escorts, and he knew he was doing something illegal, but maybe he thought he wasn't, as you said, THE SUSPECT.

But I also think it's his reported tendency to brag that will finally make him crack & talk to police. I think it may take some time but eventually he will.

I agree, they will bring in important people " serial killer specialists" of the highest pedigree...he won't be able to resist..
he wants to control the narrative...he wants to brag and and cast a shadow over the others...king for a day! I cannot wait!

mOO

 

[fred&edna]

So, the NYP "source" from 10 days ago was mistaken, I guess?

NYPD will use DNA obtained off pizza crust to possibly link Gilgo Beach suspect to cold cases: sources

“His DNA was never in the system until they arrested him,” the source said. “Now we can compare it to other crimes.”

nypost.com