Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 4 murders, July 2023 #10

[Ruminations]

It's gruesome but I was thinking "you and yours... me and mine" might refer to the victims instead of family.

Bless the memories of the victims and peace to their loved ones.

Hmmm. I don't see it that way...but your way is a straight out confession.

MOO

 

[Forest_Wood]

These are Rex's closing words:

"The main thing I wanted to say was
"Thank you
"To you & your's for the letters & what has been done for mine."

I don't know of any other common meaning for "you and yours" besides you and your family/close ones. You is Happy Face. And in that context, "for mine," has to mean for my family, (Rex's family) doesn't it?

Yes, I agree with you. RH seems to be thanking that HFK and his daughter for the letters and how they've helped his own family out. They're all certainly sticking together through this. MOO.

 

[Forest_Wood]

It's gruesome but I was thinking "you and yours... me and mine" might refer to the victims instead of family.

Bless the memories of the victims and peace to their loved ones.

That's an intriguing thought! I do wonder if some of these letters they write to each other have messages in code. I'd love to see what this HFK wrote to RH. I wonder why he didn't photocopy his own letters and show those to media too. Instead, he just shared the one he received. I wonder if he (HFK) received more than one letter from him. I wouldn't be sending another one to him knowing he ran to the media with it. MOO.

 

[vls12345]

But why might HFK go to the media with this letter? What does he have to gain by doing that? And would RH have written to him had he known that his letter would be revealed to the public? It sounds like the HFK was trying to befriend him, and then he takes the letter to the media? It doesn't make sense to me.

Not sure that serial killer actions are sensible so it may be a moot point trying to figure out "sensibility".

I find the whole communicating -- while incarcerated on opposite sides of the country -- between a serial killer and an alleged serial killer to be very odd. Very odd in that the facilities would even allow that type of communication.

Could Happy Face have done this (encourage RH to confess) at the request of LE in exchange for some privileges?

MOO.

 

[Izzylizzy]

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[Just K]

It's gruesome but I was thinking "you and yours... me and mine" might refer to the victims instead of family.

Bless the memories of the victims and peace to their loved ones.

No matter what he is inferring, RH sees humans as possessions.

 

[Justice101]

No matter what he is inferring, RH sees humans as possessions.

It's hard for the vast majority of people to even understand that type of mentality. It's completely foreign to us and unthinkable.

 

[CuriousCricket]

It's hard for the vast majority of people to even understand that type of mentality. It's completely foreign to us and unthinkable.

That's so true. I suspect RH thinks he's very clever and worded it so it might have multiple meanings if considered for a while.

 

[WyomingSkyAngel]

On a lighter note the online mocking of LISK is really amusing.

I just hate thinking about what he did to people. Apparently he was able to act normally in mundane social settings, which makes sense for a true psychopath...............

 

[Forest_Wood]

On a lighter note the online mocking of LISK is really amusing.

I just hate thinking about what he did to people. Apparently he was able to act normally in mundane social settings, which makes sense for a true psychopath...............

Was he able to act normally though? So many co-workers and employees, as well as neighbors, thought he was scary and peculiar. Like the neighbors who never wanted to take their kids to their door on Halloween. He didn't seem to act normally imo. But he still flew under the radar for so long.

 

[WyomingSkyAngel]

Was he able to act normally though? So many co-workers and employees, as well as neighbors, thought he was scary and peculiar. Like the neighbors who never wanted to take their kids to their door on Halloween. He didn't seem to act normally imo. But he still flew under the radar for so long.

I've learned the hard way-

people can be- offensive, cruel, and even abusive without breaking laws. Any police officer in America will tell you hateful gossip falls under the definition of "using freedom of speech."

So this is why people stop calling the police on "weirdoes" and choose to avoid them. Police respond to crime. If you're lucky, they might prevent crime being done to you if they choose to help.

Regarding Rex, apparently neighbors who saw him frequently did feel he was odd and he made them nervous.

The information about him being normal in social settings is from a worker who saw Rex frequently at a nearby business. Of course people behave well in retail settings- they want to make purchases and leave. The worker is a male and according to all the info available, Rex preyed on women.

The icky part is Rex probably had acquaintances who suspected or knew what he was doing- they will obviously keep silent now that they see him losing everything.

 

[CuriousCricket]

The icky part is Rex probably had acquaintances who suspected or knew what he was doing- they will obviously keep silent now that they see him losing everything.

Yes, most people can behave properly for an hour or two. So, someone you know only from church, you don't know them. Or you may know someone well enough to think, "Well, he's a little different" without thinking serial killer.

Years ago I ran into a classmate and we stood catching up. He had become an attorney and was/is a reasonably dignified, well-known member of the community. He mentioned a classmate who had gone for prison for rape about college, then managed to excape.

My classmate said the last time he had seen "Jason", he had come through town looking for a grubstack to raise marijuana in Alaska. Then he said that as boys his group had been wild, doing some things that by the standards of our more recent time were "probably criminal" but that "Jason" had been so far ahead of the rest of them, even in school, they had recognized he was different.

So, yes, even if people didn't KNOW RH was a serial killer, those who knew him well probably knew he was willing to go much further than they were or even anyone else they knew. They probably weren't surprised when he was arrested.

 

[sds71]

A Peacock spokesperson tells Rolling Stone that Ellerup was not paid for her participation in the series, and has no creative control over it, but she was paid a standard licensing fee for use of her archival material. That money, however, cannot go towards Heuermann, or his defense funds…

Speaking with The Times, departing Suffolk County, Long Island police commissioner Rodney Harrison called the docuseries “a smack at the family members who lost a loved one.” Meanwhile, Suffolk County prosecutor Ray Tierney said the film project could “affect [Ellerup’s] credibility,” especially if she is called to testify.

Wife of Suspected Long Island Serial Killer Accused of 'Trying to Capitalize' on Case With New Docuseries

Asa Ellerup, wife of suspected Long Island serial killer Rex Heuermann, has agreed to partake in a new docuseries for Peacock.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[Forest_Wood]

A Peacock spokesperson tells Rolling Stone that Ellerup was not paid for her participation in the series, and has no creative control over it, but she was paid a standard licensing fee for use of her archival material. That money, however, cannot go towards Heuermann, or his defense funds…

Speaking with The Times, departing Suffolk County, Long Island police commissioner Rodney Harrison called the docuseries “a smack at the family members who lost a loved one.” Meanwhile, Suffolk County prosecutor Ray Tierney said the film project could “affect [Ellerup’s] credibility,” especially if she is called to testify.

Wife of Suspected Long Island Serial Killer Accused of 'Trying to Capitalize' on Case With New Docuseries

Asa Ellerup, wife of suspected Long Island serial killer Rex Heuermann, has agreed to partake in a new docuseries for Peacock.

www.rollingstone.com

"Speaking with The Times, departing Suffolk County, Long Island police commissioner Rodney Harrison called the docuseries “a smack at the family members who lost a loved one.” Meanwhile, Suffolk County prosecutor Ray Tierney said the film project could “affect [Ellerup’s] credibility,” especially if she is called to testify."

"Tierney, the prosecutor, did acknowledge it was unlikely Ellerup knew any pertinent details about the case or, if she did, that she would choose to share them on camera. Even still, he argued that Ellerup was “trying to capitalize on her husband’s notoriety and make herself marketable. But the truth isn’t always marketable and the money itself could be a motivation to lie.”

BBM

It's certainly refreshing to see more people with authority speaking truth to this situation.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Something has just occurred to me . . . AE's hair. In the earliest days, weren't her ongoing cancer treatments mentioned frequently? Did we ever question that? In light of developments since, should we?

If the question is about hair loss ….
Not all cancer is treated with chemotherapy
Not all chemo causes hair loss
& don’t need to question it because she isn’t the suspect.

 

[DS2021]

A Peacock spokesperson tells Rolling Stone that Ellerup was not paid for her participation in the series, and has no creative control over it, but she was paid a standard licensing fee for use of her archival material. That money, however, cannot go towards Heuermann, or his defense funds

That makes me feel a little better.

 

[Ruminations]

"Speaking with The Times, departing Suffolk County, Long Island police commissioner Rodney Harrison called the docuseries “a smack at the family members who lost a loved one.” Meanwhile, Suffolk County prosecutor Ray Tierney said the film project could “affect [Ellerup’s] credibility,” especially if she is called to testify."

"Tierney, the prosecutor, did acknowledge it was unlikely Ellerup knew any pertinent details about the case or, if she did, that she would choose to share them on camera. Even still, he argued that Ellerup was “trying to capitalize on her husband’s notoriety and make herself marketable. But the truth isn’t always marketable and the money itself could be a motivation to lie.”

BBM

It's certainly refreshing to see more people with authority speaking truth to this situation.

That quote just elevated my regard for Tierney.

Still think he's a sellout who wants to present himself as a hero, but I'm open to new info like this.

I respect and appreciate that quote.It gives me hope that he'll stop running to the microphone, stop telling people not to submit tips, or not gaslight them by pretending crime stoppers had no part in forcing witnesses, who were willing to go to LE, to go the John Ray instead.

Tierney has a dug himself into a big hole on my eyes. But perhaps he can climb out....it's great to see him value truth.

MOO

 

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Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #9

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Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #9

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[Izzylizzy]

I just thought of something about all the legit questions asked about the female who John Ray's witness said she and her NYC narc detective boyfriend picked up and took with them to Rex's residence.
Ray's female witness claims she was Karen Vergata.
In Ray's presser he said that the woman they picked up just got out of jail.
It would make sense because the witnesse's boyfriend was in LE , could have known her and about the arrest and now her release.

Question?
Was Karen Vergata ever jailed and if so does the Valentine Day timeline fit?



"The first was a woman who said she and her boyfriend, a New York City police narcotics detective, went to a swingers' club in New York City in the late 1990s — at the time Karen Vergata's body was found — where they would go to switch partners; they found a phone number in the bathroom for a swingers' home in Massapequa Park. She and her boyfriend headed to Long Island but picked up a sex worker in New York, on the way.

That woman, Ray said, had just been released from jail and was hungry and disheveled.

"She came in the car with the two of them," he said."

Attorney To Discuss 'Newly Uncovered Evidence' In Gilgo Case At Event

John Ray will host the event in early December and a has been organized to raise funds to facilitate the event.

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Ray/Harrison presser

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New witness in Long Island serial killer trial says victim left motel crying as Rex Heuermann allegedly fled scene: Attorney

Investigators say they're interviewing four new people who could connect more cases to suspect Rex Heuermann.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[WyomingSkyAngel]

After reading up on some of the available info, I wonder if Rex was a pregnancy fetish guy (aside from the, ya know, killing) and ended the lives of women he might have impregnated.

I actually hate dwelling on this because I'm sure some of the LEOs who deal with Rex are pretty disgusted by him. But, he has rights. They have to watch him, and he gets to gloat.