Greece - Caroline Crouch, 20, Murdered, Athens, 11 May 2021 #2 *ARREST*

[Kemug]

I wonder if LE are checking if any other clients of the "psychologist" have been the victims of crime? MOO

 

[Winterbells]

Is she a person of interest in the murder investigation or in the fraud investigation about her false credentials? That makes a difference in what we can discuss here.

I wouldn’t have thought the fraud accusation would be a criminal offence, but more a civil matter? Not sure about these things though.

 

[fraudqueen]

Looks like we're getting somewhere. We all knew a real psychologist wouldn't have been talking to the media and is she the only person who knew about the money. Wonder about any other "clients" she has had and how they're doing.

 

[tayaway]

I wouldn’t have thought the fraud accusation would be a criminal offence, but more a civil matter? Not sure about these things though.

It's a criminal offence in Greece:

The Toc: The profession of Psychologist is regulated in Greece in accordance with laws 991/79 and 2646/98 and anyone who uses the title without having the necessary qualifications is prosecuted for counterfeiting a profession. "Coping with the profession of Psychologist is a criminal offense and is punishable by law."

 

[Dotta]

What I find interesting is that the therapist was a Greek candidate in European Union parliamentary elections! Is she into politics?

 

[Dotta]

Re robberies. Criminals dont often bother with ropes, tapes etc. If a baby is at the gun point, the parents will do anything - lie still, give money.

 

[Dotta]

Im beginning to feel tired with all these ridiculous elements. Phone left conveniently nearby??? I give up. In American films they interrogate the guy day and night until he is fed up and tells the truth. Or in the case with Capt. R Williams (Canada) - that was a pleasure to watch the detective - the culprit sang like a bird.

 

[everybodhi]

The article also states that the psychologist is a person of interest to El.As (Greek Police)

"EL.AS officers They emphasize that this lady is an "object of investigation" and "is a person who is of interest to the authorities and should be investigated".

Police officers are continuing to investigate the possibility of inside information of the perpetrators of the robbery and murder of 20-year-old Caroline about the financial situation of the family. In this context, they will investigate, if the specific woman had inadvertently given her in some way, relevant information, which may have ended up with the unscrupulous perpetrators."

Oh lord, child. She should have kept her mouth shut and had her nails done!

 

[everybodhi]

Re robberies. Criminals dont often bother with ropes, tapes etc. If a baby is at the gun point, the parents will do anything - lie still, give money.

They gave €10.000 cash and €29.000 in jewelry, that just wasn’t good enough.

 

[everybodhi]

I wonder how likely a black belt kick-boxer could be murdered in this way. I would expect that, unless she was sedated, she would have been able to hold off a close contact, physical assault, but I know nothing of kick boxing.

Unless there was some chloroform handy by the bed I doubt they came prepared to sedate anyone.

 

[tayaway]

CNN Greece: Pilot who trained Babis also robbed in similar fashion. ETA: in 2018? Weird how it happened to a colleague (Babis) a few years later?

 

[Winterbells]

CNN Greece: Pilot who trained Babis also robbed in similar fashion.

Blimey.
An almost idential story it seems, although no-one was killed and the dog was spared.
I do hope no-one was in hypnotherapy at the time.

 

[Dotta]

CNN Greece: Pilot who trained Babis also robbed in similar fashion. ETA: in 2018? Weird how it happened to a colleague (Babis) a few years later?

Ummm.... Copycat? But with a twist.

 

[tayaway]

Blimey.
An almost idential story it seems, although no-one was killed and the dog was spared.
I do hope no-one was in hypnotherapy at the time.

Excellent observation! Maybe the wife had a certified board accredited psychologist instead?

Ummm.... Copycat?

ETA: Original comment removed since I'm incapable of understanding the automatic translator. Since this comment is still floating here, I'll ask, does anybody think it strange that even though this couple were beaten, the 3 perps left no shred of DNA at all?

 

[Dotta]

Excellent observation! Maybe the wife had a certified board accredited psychologist instead?



Yes, and did you catch that comment about the older robbery, where the thieves were ordered to kill the woman, but they failed in that particular task? Is this some strange gang that seeks out couples to rob and then kill the wives/gfs?

My translator says: George killed her (because of beating I mean) not an order Kill her.

 

[tayaway]

My translator says: George killed her (because of beating I mean) not an order Kill her.

Oh, ok, sorry for that misquote. I'll fix it.

...but wait, the title of this corresponding vid says "Ο ΑΡΧΗΓΟΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΜΟΥ ΕΚΛΕΙΣΕ ΤΟ ΣΤΟΜΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΟΥΣ ΕΛΕΓΕ ΝΑ ΜΕ ΣΚΟΤΩΣΟΥΝ" which roughly translates to 'Their leader closed my mouth and told them to kill me.' Anyway, they could be talking about zebras and lions sitting down to tea for all I know.

 

[Dotta]

Oh, ok, sorry for that misquote. I'll fix it.

...but wait, the title of this corresponding vid says "Ο ΑΡΧΗΓΟΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΜΟΥ ΕΚΛΕΙΣΕ ΤΟ ΣΤΟΜΑ ΚΑΙ ΤΟΥΣ ΕΛΕΓΕ ΝΑ ΜΕ ΣΚΟΤΩΣΟΥΝ" which roughly translates to 'Their leader closed my mouth and told them to kill me.' Anyway, they could be talking about zebras and lions sitting down to tea for all I know.

Oh Ok then In Poland we have a special Police Department called " X Files" haha They work on cold cases waiting many years to be solved. These detectives are quite successful and many perps who thought they cheated the law are imprisoned now. Why am I telling you this? Well, according to these professionals the culprit is ALWAYS in the first volume of the case's Files. I wonder what is written in such a file in this tragic case.

 

[tayaway]

Oh Ok then In Poland we have a special Police Department called " X Files" haha They work on cold cases waiting many years to be solved. These detectives are quite successful and many perps who thought they cheated the law are imprisoned now. Why am I telling you this? Well, according to these professionals the culprit is ALWAYS in the first volume of the case's Files. I wonder what is written in such a file in this tragic case.

X Files??? They didn't leave any DNA because aliens don't have human DNA! Case solved!

 

[Dotta]

X Files??? They didn't leave any DNA because aliens don't have human DNA! Case solved!

Ha ha ha Touche! But fortunately, those caught by "X Files" detectives were human degenerates who now spend their time where they belong - in prison! And Scully and Mulder send their love to those hard working cops

 

[pol100gk]

What I find interesting is that the therapist was a Greek candidate in European Union parliamentary elections! Is she into politics?

She was like the 15th candidate on a list from a party that only got 0.28% of the vote and has since folded. it would be interesting to know what the party stood for.