Identified! Greece - LIVING 4 year old, with Roma couple, Oct'13 - #1

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There is a documentary about gypsies posted on the thread. A lot of illegal activities are going on-children are send out to steal wallets/money from unsuspecting people. Police doesn't do anything, at most they will take the gypsy children to some place for a couple of hours then they are let go. So it's really not surprising police would go to such camps looking for illegal activities.

I just feel like there's a reason why they would search for a kidnapped boy in that exact camp all those years ago.
 
Absolutely appalled at this story, but, am thrilled the child has been rescued.

How many more children are out there? Thousands, IMO. :(
 
It's not possible for a woman to produce six children in 10 month. (unless she is an octomom).

Happened once. A woman in South Africa had two sets of triplets in ten months in 1960. But yeah, if that's the only instance I've heard of it's probably not the case.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/blonde-girl-greece-thousands-inquiries


"In a bid to unearth her identity, Partalis said the charity was also looking for specialists, including an anthropologist, who might be able to
determine the child's origins and age.

"There is still mystery surrounding her age," he said. "We are looking for experts who can examine her teeth and other features to find out exactly how old she is and what her origin may be."

The charity has also compiled a "profile" of pictures of lookalike children. "We've put together a montage with Maria at the centre that we have passed to the police," he said. "There seems to be a lot of hope in the Swedish press that she is Scandinavian."

The girl is expected to be released from hospital on Monday, the same day the couple found raising her are due to appear in court on charges of abducting a minor. Police said it was likely they would be imprisoned pending trial. "The father already has a criminal record," said one officer in Thessaly, the region where the child was found"
 
Has this been posted? I know there's a screencap of it earlier on.

Here's a video of Maria as a toddler, with the dark red hair.

It seems like an ad for people interested in buying her - the Roma lady seems to insist on keeping her in front of the camera and throws the boy out of the way when he's about to block the shot.

What's with the woman in the video grabbing and tossing away the older child in the video?? Can anyone translate what it says on screen? This has absolutely grabbed me. I can't get her out of my head and I'm sure there are so many more like her out there.
 
I started watching and was thinking that could just be a proud adopted mom showing off the little girl, then she threw the other little child out of the way. Violently. Smile vanished.

Fake. Fake smiles and kindness with little Maria, fake hair color. These adults are hiding something. If they won't talk, I hope they stay in jail.
 
Has this been posted? I know there's a screencap of it earlier on.

Here's a video of Maria as a toddler, with the dark red hair.

It seems like an ad for people interested in buying her - the Roma lady seems to insist on keeping her in front of the camera and throws the boy out of the way when he's about to block the shot.

Hard to know the real intent of this video, but my opinion is that this child is being encouraged to 'perform' for the video. The woman and then the boy are showing her what they want. This in not just a family video of chance dance by the youngster. Otherwise, the woman would not pull (rather roughly) the boy out of the frame as she does. This makes my stomach queazy -- I think she is, as you say, being advertised UGH!. The girl is only following instruction, not just spontaneously having fun.
 
Oh, I have a really nasty feeling about this case now, that I didn't have before.
 
Here are some links to info about the "Natasha's" of Western Europe:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Rm93HQ2u4dMC&pg=PT133&lpg=PT133&dq=greece+natashas&source=bl&ots=ek9KLlkmav&sig=27SYPIM9l5FLScMEB3LTlFsPCWM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DodjUq_yPILFigL-soHACQ&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=greece%20natashas&f=false

Much more at link.

I was unaware that many were kidnapped into the sex trade. I thought most came willingly, even if they were afterwards enslaved.

I'm very sad to hear that some Roma people may have gotten involved in this sick mess. It's horrible. I can;t help but wonder if this child is connected.

These young girls/women are also the source of much of the free adult *advertiser censored* on the internet.

It really annoys me whenever there is a *advertiser censored* debate, they refer to the regulated industry in the US, and the DVD market, instead of the free-*advertiser censored* websites, much of the content of which is sourced from countries like Romania.

If the girls in the regulated "industry" suffer from drug addictions, rape, and extremely unsanitary conditions, imagine what the "unofficial" girls are going through. If people were aware of how the internet *advertiser censored* industry works, the *advertiser censored* debate would not exist. It would no longer be considered "harmless". Everyone viewing *advertiser censored* should be aware that the female is almost guaranteed to be suffering, and that even viewing home videos posted on *advertiser censored* sites is supporting the site financially, and therefore indirectly paying for the suffering of other girls.
 
The words on the screen mean 'vow towards the Father'. The word father is capitalized so maybe refering to God?
 
These young girls/women are also the source of much of the free adult *advertiser censored* on the internet.

It really annoys me whenever there is a *advertiser censored* debate, they refer to the regulated industry in the US, and the DVD market, instead of the free-*advertiser censored* websites, much of the content of which is sourced from countries like Romania.

If the girls in the regulated "industry" suffer from drug addictions, rape, and extremely unsanitary conditions, imagine what the "unofficial" girls are going through. If people were aware of how the internet *advertiser censored* industry works, the *advertiser censored* debate would not exist. It would no longer be considered "harmless". Everyone viewing *advertiser censored* should be aware that the female is almost guaranteed to be suffering, and that even viewing home videos posted on *advertiser censored* sites is supporting the site financially, and therefore indirectly paying for the suffering of other girls.

I rode a car from Norway to Croatia.

From southern Germany and down there's a very naked, open and dirty sex trade going on. Girls standing naked in windows, partly undressed out in the roads. Very young girls, too.

For these reasons I do not want to drive there again.
 
What's with the woman in the video grabbing and tossing away the older child in the video?? Can anyone translate what it says on screen? This has absolutely grabbed me. I can't get her out of my head and I'm sure there are so many more like her out there.

The purpose of the video appears to be to "showcase" the little girl. You can see the woman pushing the little girl in front of the camera. And a little boy got in front of the camera, so he is shoved out of the way.
 
These young girls/women are also the source of much of the free adult *advertiser censored* on the internet.

It really annoys me whenever there is a *advertiser censored* debate, they refer to the regulated industry in the US, and the DVD market, instead of the free-*advertiser censored* websites, much of the content of which is sourced from countries like Romania.

If the girls in the regulated "industry" suffer from drug addictions, rape, and extremely unsanitary conditions, imagine what the "unofficial" girls are going through. If people were aware of how the internet *advertiser censored* industry works, the *advertiser censored* debate would not exist. It would no longer be considered "harmless". Everyone viewing *advertiser censored* should be aware that the female is almost guaranteed to be suffering, and that even viewing home videos posted on *advertiser censored* sites is supporting the site financially, and therefore indirectly paying for the suffering of other girls.

ITA and post in this thread

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91597&highlight=human+traficking
 
Sorry if already posted, but this news link contains many close up pics of " Maria" including video of her dancing.
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"Dressed in a pair of pink shorts and a white tee-shirt, with a dummy in her mouth, the child seems content to perform for the camera.

Her hair appears darker than in the pictures which emerged following her release, backing up the theory that her hair had been dyed by her alleged abductors"


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-international-hunt-dancing-Roma-gypsies.html



"A video believed to show the four-year-old girl rescued from a Greek gypsy camp dancing as a toddler has emerged.

In the short clip the tot, thought to have been around one at the time, is shown twirling and dancing as a large dark-haired woman watches on.

Frequently the smiling woman, whose identity is unknown, can be seen the grab the little girl, known only as Maria, as she staggers about, pushing her back into the centre of a sunny courtyard to continue her dance"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-hunt-dancing-Roma-gypsies.html#ixzz2iILOGHed
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Has this been posted? I know there's a screencap of it earlier on.

Here's a video of Maria as a toddler, with the dark red hair.

It seems like an ad for people interested in buying her - the Roma lady seems to insist on keeping her in front of the camera and throws the boy out of the way when he's about to block the shot.

Lol...I like how they try to suggest that her hair had been died blonde because it is darker in the video.....did they not look at her eyebrows and eyelashes? She is quite clearly naturally very blond.

Has it occurred to them that the girl in the video might be someone else?
 
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