GUILTY - Tammy Moorer trial for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 8 Oct 2018 #4

[Sun]

BBM. It is going well, but all it takes is one who thinks only DNA can convict .

I don't even want to think about that happening. Nope. Going to put this right out of my mind now.

 

[essmc]

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but is there anywhere to read the transcripts rather than watch the videos or read tweets? Thanks

 

[tmar]

Now y'all make sure you take a shower because of all the smut that we heard today:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1804172233033554

(turn on the sound)

(I posted this is another thread today, but it seems appropriate for this thread, IMO)
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Thank you YESorNO.
Just wonderful.
We certainly need laughs.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Thank you thank you

 

[lstiff]

The other reason (in addition to fear) I think SM may not flip and testify is that it’s hard and bold to do that. Jason Autry (Holly Bobo trail) is arrogant and smug (IMO). SM strikes me as timid and quiet, exact opposite of TM (gag) so it would take courage to admit his own guilt AND turn on her after all the years. Big big courage. If y’all pray and want to pray then pray for courage bc that’s what it’s going to take to get THE TRUTH. If TM is convicted, there is still no Heather and very little answers to what really happened.

IMO

Off my soapbox and off to find more wine.

 

[TTF14]

The other reason (in addition to fear) I think SM may not flip and testify is that it’s hard and bold to do that. Jason Autry (Holly Bobo trail) is arrogant and smug (IMO). SM strikes me as timid and quiet, exact opposite of TM (gag) so it would take courage to admit his own guilt AND turn on her after all the years. Big big courage. If y’all pray and want to pray then pray for courage bc that’s what it’s going to take to get THE TRUTH. If TM is convicted, there is still no Heather and very little answers to what really happened.

IMO

Off my soapbox and off to find more wine.

He really hates the prison he's in, right? Very fearful? Wasn't he trying to get moved? Maybe that could be a selling point.....

 

[Kadoober]

I wonder if their daughter will actually testify that it was her texting Caleb?

 

[Area52]

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Tammy only has half a foot? What?

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NYSofMindHunter, To
Sorry, I know this is a serious trial, but this image keeps creeping into my brain! Bwaaaaaaa

 

[seattlechiquita]

No way in the proverbial heck that SM is going to say bleeeep against his boss. I mean his beloved wife.

 

[Madeleine74]

Sorry if this has already been asked and answered, but is there anywhere to read the transcripts rather than watch the videos or read tweets? Thanks

Nope. The court reporter will eventually produce trial transcripts and certify them but that is done after the trial is over and it would not be made available to the public (and certainly not for free.).

 

[Madeleine74]

He really hates the prison he's in, right? Very fearful? Wasn't he trying to get moved? Maybe that could be a selling point.....

The state would not offer a plea deal to Sidney at this point in the trial of someone else (his wife). And even if Sid was willing to accept a plea deal, that doesn't guarantee Tammy would be convicted. And *she* is not going to take a plea, nor do I believe the state would offer her one.

Plus, he's up for parole, and he'll probably get it so he'd be out of prison early anyway.

I just don't see this happening in this way in the middle of this trial.

 

[Sun]

He really hates the prison he's in, right? Very fearful? Wasn't he trying to get moved? Maybe that could be a selling point.....

However, incarcerated inmates rarely look fondly on inmates that testify against other defendants. Testifying would likely make his time in prison harder, not easier. I'm not sure that a judge has any say so on where a prisoner does their time (maybe this just depends on the State though)

 

[Madeleine74]

However, incarcerated inmates rarely look fondly on inmates that testify against other defendants.

You mean jailhouse snitches? This wouldn't be that. They're both involved in the same crime and if Sidney testifies it's because he's been issued a subpoena.

 

[Simply Caustic]

He'd be charged with Felony Murder, which is First Degree Murder as well as Conspiracy to commit murder. Decades in prison, possibly up to life without parole.

I have seen co-conspirators who actually participated in the murder (beating a man to death) get a 5 year sentence for testifying against the ringleader. If - and this is a big if - Sidney agreed to testify against Tammy, I could see him getting a deal with a shorter sentence recommendation, especially if he has some proof that lays the blame at Tammy’s feet.

15 years, for example, isn’t a death sentence...and he could potentially have been afraid Tammy would give him up. I’m not confident that’s the case, as they stuck together for years and TM didn’t throw Sidney under the bus via her FB mouthpiece, as I imagine she would have, had he turned

 

[Sun]

You mean jailhouse snitches? This wouldn't be that. They're both involved in the same crime and if Sidney testifies it's because he's been issued a subpoena.

Since he's married to Tammy, he can't be compelled to testify against his wife, right? Even issued a subpoena, he can still plead the 5th.

 

[Madeleine74]

Since he's married to Tammy, he can't be compelled to testify against his wife, right? Even issued a subpoena, he can still plead the 5th.

Yes he can plead the 5th, which is against self incrimination.

I don't know about spousal privilege and what the laws are around that.

 

[lstiff]

If he is on the Prosecution Witness List (I thought that’s what I read but do we have proof?) wouldn’t that mean they feel his testimony will help their case? Otherwise wouldn’t he just be a Defense Witness to corroborate her story? I’m trying to see the angle here with him as a prosecution witness. Anyone know where the info came that he was on the witness list for prosecution? TIA

 

[Surfside]

Hello friends, I am still alive and just now realizing this trial is happening. Will try to catch up and watch a few of the archived videos. Anything I MUST see?

Welcome back!

 

[Madeleine74]

I have seen co-conspirators who actually participated in the murder (beating a man to death) get a 5 year sentence for testifying against the ringleader. If - and this is a big if - Sidney agreed to testify against Tammy, I could see him getting a deal with a shorter sentence recommendation, especially if he has some proof that lays the blame at Tammy’s feet.

I guess the question is, "does the state have enough evidence to convict both of them for kidnapping?" And importantly, does the state have enough to convict TM in this current trial? If yes, there's no need for the state to offer a plea for his testimony. If no, then one wonders why the state brought TM's case to trial in the first place, and before securing such a plea deal?

Sid already had one hung jury for his kidnapping trial. The most they've gotten on him so far is obstruction and he'll be out soon.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Just a couple of tweets (that were tweeted 7 minutes ago) from Marissa Tansino:

Marissa Tansino WMBF‏ @MarissaTansino 7m7 minutes ago
During cross examination in Warrelmann's testimony, the defense pointed out bottles of alcohol in photos of her apartment she shared with Heather and asked Warrelmann about Heather going to bars underage - she said it was her understanding Heather knew someone to get in.

Marissa Tansino WMBF‏ @MarissaTansino 7m7 minutes ago
Court today wrapped up just after 6 o'clock. The trial continues tomorrow. Here's a recap of what happened in the courtroom today:

‘I think you’re a little obsessed with me:’ Content of text messages focus of day seven of Tammy Moorer trial