I have changed my mind about her, her testimony in Wayne s murder was important to the crown and it is true she could have been like CN and not co operated at all.
Well said, Kamille.
It reminds me of the balance of probabilities that the coroner was talking about in his testimony. Adding up all the evidence provided, as you say, murder by DM does seem to be the most reasonable conclusion. But if the judge thinks that there is even a small chance that it was suicide, then she can't convict... right?
And going back to that balance of probabilities... I was just looking at the tweets from Day 3 of the trial with the coroner and Det. Hutcheon where he says that the coroner told him on the scene that it "seems like 60 to 70 per cent suicide, 30 to 40 per cent suspicious." Hutcheon said he requested that the homicide detective come but that the homicide detective said he would not attend the scene and that he would instead follow up the next morning by looking at the report and the photographs. How is that acceptable?! 60-40 is only slightly more than the two things being equally possible...meaning the coroner really didn't know or even feel strongly that it was suicide...meaning that there was a fair chance it was suspicious. One would think that in such a situation the homicide detective would not have a choice but to attend the scene! I'm just thinking of all of the evidence analysis and testing that might have been done had he gone to the scene as was requested!
Also, the coroner stated that his determination of suicide was helped by history he got from the family members (MB and DM taking about trouble with finances, alcohol, depression). It's amazing how all of the professionals on the scene were influenced by what DM and MB had to say. And I guess why wouldn't they be? In most cases I imagine it's helpful for family members to be providing background information... But anyway...I'll end my rant here.
The whole suicide thing just does a number on my head, my heart truly goes out to anyone who has lost a loved one to suicide. I can only imagine the anguish and guilt, anger and sadness, the full rainbow of emotions that they would go through, and likely forever. I *can't* imagine topping it off by having police treat those same people as potential suspects.... to only add to their grief and woes.
I don't know what I'm thinking of there, but after looking back, Smith definitely more than once said he had touched WM's body.. so what was the judge thinking when she interrupted to say otherwise??
Wow, that was a good find huntergerrard. Pack.of.Lies.Pillay.!
What about when, like in this instance, she is saying something wrong?
AC's Liveblog (remember that we are not receiving word for word, so it does seem that Smith not only touched WM's body, but also checked for a pulse?):
This first-hand experience was reported by someone in the Hamilton area when he called 911 about a person he found obviously deceased (bbm):
If you arguing to look at any suicide closely, this one would be it. More than half of people that commit suicides leave notes, so easily verifiable. Then you have those that jump of a bridge or in front of a train, again pretty obvious suicides. There are people that drive to the lake and never come back, also pretty verifiable. But in this case we have a guy lying in a position that would make it very uncomfortable to pull the trigger. We have an illegal gun being used by a guy that gave away all his guns. And we have a son that after finding his dads body, didn't call 911, yet was able to call family and friends. What more did police need? Quite frankly, an investigation means more work, and when given the choice, "Do we investigate (work)" or "Call it a suicide (No work)" most will choose the later.
Keep in mind we are talking about WM's death, which happened at the end of November less than a month after the phone was activated. RP should have said "through the weeks"
If I recall, Pillay was talking about the fact that DM had six phones in his name, and his comment was about those multiple phones generally and not about the specific one activated November 1.Keep in mind we are talking about WM's death, which happened at the end of November less than a month after the phone was activated. RP should have said "through the weeks"
Keep in mind we are talking about WM's death, which happened at the end of November less than a month after the phone was activated. RP should have said "through the weeks"
