Hailey Dunn: General Discussion thread #3

[sophiebelle]

http://www.oaoa.com/news/article_0a8c99ee-ab00-11e3-9227-001a4bcf6878.html

MSM confirms that the Sheriff Office is referring calls to the FBI. Billie Dunn states she has not spoken with Sheriff's Office for almost a year, but is speaking with Texas Rangers

I wonder who Billie Dunn thinks should/or would be arrested. The comment under that article is to the point for sure.

 

[Knox]

On March 16, 2013, the remains of the Colorado City teen were found near Lake Thomas in Scurry County. The remains, accompanied by some clothing, were positively identified as belonging to Hailey Darlene Dunn more than a month later on April 26. The remains were identified through DNA.

Since then, the remains have been sitting in an evidence room at the University of North Texas Science Center in Fort Worth.

http://www.oaoa.com/news/article_0a8c99ee-ab00-11e3-9227-001a4bcf6878.html

What do you all make of the bolded line above?

 

[Knox]

Dunn said she has not been in contact with Wilson or Scurry County investigators since May. When the remains were identified Dunn said she was under the impression that an arrest would be made almost immediately. But it did not happen.

In the more than three years since her disappearance, investigators from Colorado City, Mitchell County, the Texas Rangers, the Department of Public Safety and the FBI have followed countless leads but to no avail.

Dunn said she remains in contact with the Texas Rangers almost weekly. She would like to speak to Wilson periodically about the case, but says he will not return calls.

http://www.oaoa.com/news/article_0a8c99ee-ab00-11e3-9227-001a4bcf6878.html

If I were in Billie's shoes, and the person in charge of my daughter's murder investigation were not returning my phone calls. I would march down to his office and present myself in person. If that didn't work, I would speak in the public comment portion of the BOS Meeting in that County. Ask why the person in charge of my daughter's murder investigation will not communicate with me. In other words, I would travel up the political food chain (Local, County, State) until I got an answer I was satisfied with.

I don't understand Billie. She strongly speaks out on Facebook, in news articles, etc., but her words don't seem to equate to any real action. I'll zip it now ...

 

[Knox]

Calls to the Scurry County Sheriff’s Office were referred to the Texas Rangers Friday. The Texas Rangers responded via email and directed HuffPost back to the Scurry County Sheriff's Office. In a follow-up inquiry, a spokesperson for the Texas Rangers would only say the investigation is active and ongoing.

"We have no additional information to release at this time," the spokesperson said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/hailey-dunn_n_4967279.html

Down- Set- Hike- :banghead:

 

[AnonymousD]

What do you all make of the bolded line above?

I'm not quite sure. But I will tell you that was the one part of the article made me stop & catch my breath. I had to read it 3x before it finally sank in. I found it odd that it didn't read "Since then, Hailey's remains have been kept at University of North Texas Science Center in Fort Worth." It seemed cold & harsh the way it was worded in the article.

What do you make of it, Knox?

 

[concernedmother]

I would be demanding a darn good reason why the remains are just sitting there.

 

[PPKik]

Some people did call both the Scurry County sheriff's office and the Texas Rangers.

This article sums up the frustration of civilians and shows the 'pass-the-buck' LE attitude pretty well.

The losers are not just Hailey Dunn and her family, but all the other families of missing and/ or murdered people who are treated this way. Why won't anyone admit to being in charge, and what does that mean to a murder case?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/hailey-dunn_n_4967279.html

 

[StacieC]

Angela working the front desk at the Scurry Ct Sheriff's office was telling people today to call the Rangers as they are in charge after saying the same about the fbi yesterday. I spoke to the Tx Rangers in Lubbock and they called Austin. Austin Tx Rangers repeat again Scurry cty is the lead agency. The FBI has not said anything that I've seen nor read


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/hailey-dunn_n_4967279.html

 

[StacieC]

Some people did call both the Scurry County sheriff's office and the Texas Rangers.

This article sums up the frustration of civilians and shows the 'pass-the-buck' LE attitude pretty well.

The losers are not just Hailey Dunn and her family, but all the other families of missing and/ or murdered people who are treated this way. Why won't anyone admit to being in charge, and what does that mean to a murder case?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/hailey-dunn_n_4967279.html

Sorry didn't read through before I saw this. Right on target!

 

[PPKik]

http://www.oaoa.com/news/article_0a8c99ee-ab00-11e3-9227-001a4bcf6878.html

MSM confirms that the Sheriff Office is referring calls to the FBI. Billie Dunn states she has not spoken with Sheriff's Office for almost a year, but is speaking with Texas Rangers

"Calls to the Scurry County Sheriff’s Office were referred to the Texas Rangers Friday. The Texas Rangers responded via email and directed HuffPost back to the Scurry County Sheriff's Office. In a follow-up inquiry, a spokesperson for the Texas Rangers would only say the investigation is active and ongoing."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/hailey-dunn_n_4967279.html


On Thursday [March 13] Scurry County was referring calls to the FBI, but on Friday [March 14] Scurry County was referring calls to the Texas Rangers.

And the Texas Rangers referred callers right back to Scurry County. It's truly a disgrace. As much as I wish the family would sit on the Scurry County's sheriff's doorstep until they get answers, of some sort, who wouldn't get brutally discouraged with law enforcement's shell game?

ETA: Why is Sheriff Trey Wilson sending callers to the Texas Rangers, as if his agency, the Scurry County Sheriff's Office, has nothing to do with Hailey Dunn's case?

 

[StacieC]

If I were in Billie's shoes, and the person in charge of my daughter's murder investigation were not returning my phone calls. I would march down to his office and present myself in person. If that didn't work, I would speak in the public comment portion of the BOS Meeting in that County. Ask why the person in charge of my daughter's murder investigation will not communicate with me. In other words, I would travel up the political food chain (Local, County, State) until I got an answer I was satisfied with.

I don't understand Billie. She strongly speaks out on Facebook, in news articles, etc., but her words don't seem to equate to any real action. I'll zip it now ...

It wasn't for a lack of trying. One to several calls a week for a year to Scurry County with only one call returned.You do go back to those that will talk to you even though they don't have answers, as it's not their case. The Tx Rangers are and have been very good to the Dunn family. Getting justice for Hailey and bringing her home is what this is all about. Arrest, conviction, laying their child to rest.
I try not to do the "if it was me" because thankfully it is not, but I know that Billie does everything she is capable of.

 

[StacieC]

http://m.oaoa.com/news/article_0a8c99ee-ab00-11e3-9227-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm


http://www.newswest9.com/story/24961068/petition-signed-to-bring-home-hailey-dunns-remains

 

[Tugela]

Probably the sheriffs office does not have the resources to investigate a case like this, so they have deferred the investigation to the Texas Rangers. For the Texas Rangers it is likely a cold case, so not much would be done unless new lines of investigation come up. It would sit in a file and be reviewed once a year or so. The evidence they have now is clearly insufficient to move the case forward. and because of the time lapse between her going missing and her body being found, there is not much to look for. The FBI provides logistical support to local authorities in cases like, and that would take the form of specialist forensic analysis, so that would be why they have the remains.

The sheriff technically has jurisdiction, but the state is doing the investigation. Since it is a cold case, both would be directing enquiries to the other, since as far as they were concerned nothing is happening with them and consequently questions should be directed to the other guy (who might be doing something).

If you wanted to find out more of where they stand on the case, ask specific questions, such as if anyone has been cleared or if anyone is a person of interest based on what they know now today. Or something along the lines of "Is SA still considered a POI, or the only POI?". Asking what progress has been made, or how much, will likely get a non-committal answer.

One more point, while the sheriff/FBI/rangers might do the investigation, it is the county prosecutor who would seek a grand jury or file charges, not LE. It might be more productive to direct questions at that office. If they have not been given a file yet, chances are there is little or no evidence regarding what happened to HD.

If those won't talk, then approach the sheriff/prosecutor in CC. They would presumably be involved in some fashion as well.

Raise the issue in the run up to the next sheriff/prosecutor elections, make it a political issue.

There are many things you can do and avenues to push for answers.

 

[Knox]

It wasn't for a lack of trying. One to several calls a week for a year to Scurry County with only one call returned.You do go back to those that will talk to you even though they don't have answers, as it's not their case. The Tx Rangers are and have been very good to the Dunn family. Getting justice for Hailey and bringing her home is what this is all about. Arrest, conviction, laying their child to rest.
I try not to do the "if it was me" because thankfully it is not, but I know that Billie does everything she is capable of.

One to several calls a week, for a year? I feel like you keep overlooking suggestions, and restating the same things. We all want justice for Hailey, it's why we post in this forum.

Political pressure properly applied gets results. I pointed out what the steps involved are. It doesn't cost any money, just her own personal time and a commitment to see it through, what does Billie have to lose?

I'll address the elephant in the room, why isn't LE returning her calls?

Thank you StacieC, I'm not trying to put you on the spot and I appreciate your posts. Just trying to be honest in my thoughts.

 

[sophiebelle]

I agree with you Knox. I would call reporters and then make a call to the state AG and the senators and anybody I knew of. If all they told me was nothing, I would still call again. Everybody would know that I wanted my child back and for somebody to tell me what happened.

 

[Jacie Estes]

One to several calls a week, for a year? I feel like you keep overlooking suggestions, and restating the same things. We all want justice for Hailey, it's why we post in this forum.

Political pressure properly applied gets results. I pointed out what the steps involved are. It doesn't cost any money, just her own personal time and a commitment to see it through, what does Billie have to lose?

I'll address the elephant in the room, why isn't LE returning her calls?

Thank you StacieC, I'm not trying to put you on the spot and I appreciate your posts. Just trying to be honest in my thoughts.

BBM I have wondered, as well, why LE doesn't return the calls.

 

[nannymo]

I wondered the same thing about LE not returning her calls. Does anyone know if Clint makes any calls?

I don't want to be morbid or insensitive, but so little of Hailey was found....could it be possible LE is still waiting to see if more of her is found?

If she was my child, I think I would go to where she was found and look myself every chance I got. If I found anything of significance I would call LE immediately and not touch it. There has to be more than what was discovered!

If she was in the water (which I think they do not believe she was. Correct me if I am wrong) the drought is worse than last year and I THINK the lake would be lower. Is anyone still looking??

Found the water levels...it is actually up 3 feet.

http://waterdatafortexas.org/reservoirs/individual/j-b-thomas

 

[PPKik]

It's March 16 in my time zone. I'm thinking about Hailey right now. I feel sick and disgusted. As calls to LE just this past week showed, no one in LE is taking any responsibility for Hailey. Pass the buck to another agency and don't answer calls.

That's not nearly enough. In fact, it's downright disgusting.

What can we as a group do to get accountability by LE and justice for Hailey?

Some LE agency has to start from scratch and there needs to be attention and pressure on Scurry County.

Embarrassing Facebook pages with hateful and hurtful remarks, or anonymous Facebook pages with cute pictures with canned sayings and pretentious titles, are not going to get this little girl justice.

LE getting off their asses might.

 

[Tugela]

I wondered the same thing about LE not returning her calls. Does anyone know if Clint makes any calls?

I am thinking not, since LE appeared frequently to not know where he was for much of the time. With all the legal issues he has been involved in over the last three years I imagine that he has been trying to stay out of their way as much as possible.

A better approach might be to find out what the GMs have been doing.

 

[Tugela]

Embarrassing Facebook pages with hateful and hurtful remarks, or anonymous Facebook pages with cute pictures with canned sayings and pretentious titles, are not going to get this little girl justice.

Ya, well, if HD was like any other teenage girl (and I'm sure she was), she would be horrified and mortified by those facebook pages. They are caricatures put up by a bunch of middle aged women for the most part who probably did not know her at all. It is not the real HD, and if she were to construct her own memorial page it would look very different from that, certainly all the angel wing pictures would be gone in an instant. I seriously doubt that there are many, or perhaps any, teenage girls who picture themselves like that.

A memorial page should have photos of her in happier times doing the things she enjoyed doing, and being with the friends she enjoyed being with. I think it is ironic and sad that these pages have almost nothing about her or her life, it is really all about other people.