Halyna Hutchins Shot With Prop Gun - Alec Baldwin indicted & Hannah Gutierrez-Reed charged, 2021 #6

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No intent required in the NM statute. An otherwise legal action can be deemed involuntary manslaughter in NM, if the person showed lack of caution or circumspection.

Instead of intent, it requires lack of caution or circumspection. The case law seems to support this.



So even if a person intended to and was acting lawfully, if they fail to exercise due caution or circumspection, they can be charged. A person cleaning their gun in a home in NM is performing a lawful act. If they fail to be cautious and clear the gun and a bullet shoots someone out on the sidewalk, it's involuntary manslaughter. That was one of the more common kinds of involuntary manslaughter I observed when I lived there.

One person was arrested two streets over from where I lived. He went on vacation and asked two neighbor children to feed his cat, giving them access to his garage. He forgot he had a loaded gun stored there. One child died. He was arrested.

There were also some unsafe swimming pool cases.

IMO.
No, when you practice criminal law you understand that intent is an element of all crimes.
 
By Max Matza
BBC News

Alec Baldwin: Halyna Hutchins' family to proceed with civil lawsuit

The family of Halyna Hutchins, the Rust cinematographer who died on set, say they will sue Alec Baldwin despite his criminal charges being dropped.

Manslaughter charges against Mr Baldwin, who was holding the prop gun that fired the fatal bullet, were withdrawn in New Mexico on Thursday.

A lawyer for Ms Hutchins' parents and sister said that the actor "cannot escape responsibility" for her death.

Mr Baldwin had already reached a deal with her widower and 10-year-old son.

 
No, when you practice criminal law you understand that intent is an element of all crimes.

NM law states that acting lawfully with lawful intent can still be a crime. So a person can INTEND a lawful action but still be in trouble with the law, if that's what you mean. We lay people usually use the word somewhat differently in regard to crime.

I hope that's clearer. Lawful intent can be coupled with an unlawful action. Better? A well-intended person can still be charged.

Intent is part of all human actions, then. I am perfectly aware of that meaning. There are very few human actions (as opposed to physiological responses) that are without intent. I do think that NGRI defenses depend on this difference.

IMO.
 
By Max Matza
BBC News

Alec Baldwin: Halyna Hutchins' family to proceed with civil lawsuit

The family of Halyna Hutchins, the Rust cinematographer who died on set, say they will sue Alec Baldwin despite his criminal charges being dropped.

Manslaughter charges against Mr Baldwin, who was holding the prop gun that fired the fatal bullet, were withdrawn in New Mexico on Thursday.

A lawyer for Ms Hutchins' parents and sister said that the actor "cannot escape responsibility" for her death.

Mr Baldwin had already reached a deal with her widower and 10-year-old son.


Any word on where Allred has filed this suit? I thought it was California (where I am doubtful it will survive past its first hearing).

Because only spouses and children have standing to file wrongful death suits, as I understand it.

IMO.
 
Any word on where Allred has filed this suit? I thought it was California (where I am doubtful it will survive past its first hearing).

Because only spouses and children have standing to file wrongful death suits, as I understand it.

IMO.
This is from April 17, is this what you meant? "It is abundantly clear under New Mexico law, which will be applied in the California court that he is responsible for all of the harm he did to the entirety of Halyna Hutchins’ family. We are here to make sure that he is held accountable for his actions."


 
Any word on where Allred has filed this suit? I thought it was California (where I am doubtful it will survive past its first hearing).

Because only spouses and children have standing to file wrongful death suits, as I understand it.

IMO.
The articles I have seen so far are very vague and don't seem to indicate where this is filed. Where was Halyna's husband's wrongful death suit filed? I apologize but I just don't have to time to go looking for it.
 
This is from April 17, is this what you meant? "It is abundantly clear under New Mexico law, which will be applied in the California court that he is responsible for all of the harm he did to the entirety of Halyna Hutchins’ family. We are here to make sure that he is held accountable for his actions."


Yes - and it does sound as if the lawsuit would work if filed in NM, so I hope that's what they ultimately do.

From the article:

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that the plaintiff has to be married to the decedent in California law to receive compensation for a wrongful death. Additionally, the lawyers argued Hutchins' family could not prove a "sufficiently close relationship" with the cinematographer, which is necessary under New Mexico law.

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I think they can show a sufficiently close relationship in NM - but not in CA. I believe there were exchanges among Halyna's family that could be considered to have economic benefit to her family. Anyway, I'd like to see it taken up in court in NM.

IMO it won't fly in CA, but might very well take flight in NM. Justice is a slippery thing, for sure.
 
The articles I have seen so far are very vague and don't seem to indicate where this is filed. Where was Halyna's husband's wrongful death suit filed? I apologize but I just don't have to time to go looking for it.

I believe it was filed in California, but I'm not certain. I had assumed that Allred's case on behalf of Halyna's family was filed in California and I'll go check on that right now.

IMO.

Yep: County of Los Angeles, Superior Court.

 
I believe it was filed in California, but I'm not certain. I had assumed that Allred's case on behalf of Halyna's family was filed in California and I'll go check on that right now.

IMO.

Yep: County of Los Angeles, Superior Court.

So they are not suing in regards to a wrongful death estate or in any regards to any estate at all, but just directly themselves. The lawsuit lists the plaintiffs in their individual capacity, not as representatives of the deceased or any duly appointed wrongful death representative (which I believe has already been done). Just by-passing the wrongful death representative requirements of either California or N.M.?
 
If Involuntary Manslaughter Charges are Refiled Against Baldwin
Intent Needed? Or Lack of Caution & Circumspection Sufficient? What if Gun Handling Was Negligent, a Misdemeanor?
No intent required in the NM statute. An otherwise legal action can be deemed involuntary manslaughter in NM, if the person showed lack of caution or circumspection.
Instead of intent, it requires lack of caution or circumspection....
So even if a person intended to and was acting lawfully, if they fail to exercise due caution or circumspection, they can be charged. A person cleaning their gun in a home in NM is performing a lawful act. If they fail to be cautious and clear the gun and a bullet shoots someone out on the sidewalk, it's involuntary manslaughter.... IMO.
No, when you practice criminal law you understand that intent is an element of all crimes.
@10ofRods @PrairieWind Tho charges against AB were dismissed, c/be refiled. Could (re)reading NM statutes change thinking for either of you?

MANSLAUGHTER*
"Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice...
"B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection." (sbm)

@10ofRods argued --- "lawful act committed without due caution & circumspection" is (my ETA: a possible) basis for charging AB.

The other (ETA: possible) basis in that section for invol m/s is “unlawful act not amounting to felony.” IOW, misdemeanor.
If in committing a misdemeanor, gun holder kills a human (without malice), he has committed invol. m/s.

In handling firearm, did AB commit a misdemeanor?
NEGLIGENT USE OF A DEADLY WEAPON**
Per statute "negligent use of a deadly weapon consists of: ...(3) endangering the safety of another by handling or using a firearm... in a negligent manner;... is a petty misdemeanor." (sbm)

Well, AB was handling firearm, and by his firearm handling he did endanger HH's & JS's safety (one dead & one w GSW).
So the $64,000 question: Was AB "handling or using the firearm in a negligent manner"???

Was AB's failure to "clear" the firearm, either personally or by having armorer or third party "clear" it, negligent?

If so, Invol M/S charge for AB seems plausible, but there were sooo many conflicting stmts on sooo many points. That plus some clumsy moves the district atty made.
imo, jmo, moo.
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Chapter 30 - Criminal Offenses.
* "Article 2 - Homicide. Section 30-2-3 - Manslaughter.
"Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice....
"B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection." (sbm)
^ 2021 New Mexico Statutes :: Chapter 30 - Criminal Offenses :: Article 2 - Homicide :: Section 30-2-3 - Manslaughter.

** "Article 7 - Weapons and Explosives. Section 30-7-4 - Negligent use of a deadly weapon.
"A. Negligent use of a deadly weapon consists of: ....
"(3) endangering the safety of another by handling or using a firearm or other deadly weapon in a negligent manner; or...
"Whoever commits negligent use of a deadly weapon is guilty of a petty misdemeanor." (sbm)
^ 2021 New Mexico Statutes :: Chapter 30 - Criminal Offenses :: Article 7 - Weapons and Explosives :: Section 30-7-4 - Negligent use of a deadly weapon.
 
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So they are not suing in regards to a wrongful death estate or in any regards to any estate at all, but just directly themselves. The lawsuit lists the plaintiffs in their individual capacity, not as representatives of the deceased or any duly appointed wrongful death representative (which I believe has already been done). Just by-passing the wrongful death representative requirements of either California or N.M.?

Yes - you of course summarized the legal elements way better than I did. Halyna's family is filing a separate suit on their own behalf (and not on behalf of the estate). You are correct that the lawsuit filed on behalf of the estate in the wrongful death of Ms Hutchins has been settled for an undisclosed sum.

They are trying to bypass the rules in CA (I don't know about NM - but they didn't file there yet, that I know of). Gloria Allred should know better, but of course, she may be hoping to go a round or two in court and just be an irritant to Alec Baldwin.

IMO.

It is sad that her parents do not get to share in the estate/lawsuit on behalf of the estate. The sister actually spent a year in California, as a substitute Mom for little Andros, while Matt Hutchins went back to work. IMO. Dad and mom came over initially, but had to go back - Svetlana, I believe, is the sister who helped Hutchins out.

 
Local paper is not amused:

This abq journal article brought a chuckle. I'm a 16-year resident of New Mexico; retired here from Massachusetts where I'd resided my entire life. I was soon told by locals that no matter what the government leaders want us to believe: 1) NM is Still the Wild West, and.... 2) We still think a little backwards out here, and... 3) Remember #1 and #2 and It's All Good.
 
HH's Parents’ & Sister’s Lawsuit re HH's Death.
By-Passing NM's Statutory Req’mt. re WD Pers. Rep?
So they are not suing in regards to a wrongful death estate or in any regards to any estate at all, but just directly themselves. The lawsuit lists the plaintiffs in their individual capacity, not as representatives of the deceased or any duly appointed wrongful death representative (which I believe has already been done). Just by-passing the wrongful death representative requirements of either California or N.M.?
@PrairieWind Thanks for your post raising these issues in this situation (which reads eerily like a Conflict of Laws final exam. wink wink).

If HH’s parents & sister want to by-pass NM’s req’mt re wrongful death personal rep., I can see that, plus another reason not to file suit under the NM WDA statute, period.

First, parents & sister filing in own individual capacities, instead of as representatives of probate est. or appointed WD representatives for this case, like you said.
Would it be possible to amend petition, to seek to have one or all three of them or another person appointed to overcome that issue? Maybe, IDK.

Second, more importantly, even IF a WD pers rep. was appt’ed,*** and IF case reached trial, and IF jury awarded damages, under NM’s statutory priorities of distribution of proceeds provision,** ALL proceeds w/be distrib'ed to surviving spouse (half) & child (half), per Sec. 41-2-3 A & B,

In this situation, NM Wrongful Death Action would leave parents & sister OUT IN THE COLD.

All imo, based on NM statutes, annotations, & cases below.
Welcoming clarification or correction, esp‘ly from PrairieWind &
our legal professionals.

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*Section-41-2-1. Death by wrongful act or neglect; liability in damages.
^ 2021 New Mexico Statutes :: Chapter 41 - Torts :: Article 2 - Wrongful Death; Actions for Damages :: Section 41-2-1 - [Death by wrongful act or neglect; liability in damages.]

**"Section 41-2-3 - Personal representative to bring action; damages; distribution of proceeds.
"Every action mentioned in Section 41-2-1 NMSA 1978 shall be brought by… personal representative of the deceased person,…jury… may give such damages, compensatory and exemplary,… pecuniary injury resulting from the death to the surviving party entitled to the judgment,…. The proceeds … shall be distributed as follows:
A. if there is a surviving spouse and no child, then to the spouse;
B. if there is a surviving spouse and a child or grandchild, then one-half to the surviving spouse and the remaining one-half to the children and grandchildren, the grandchildren taking by right of representation;
C. if there is no husband or wife, but a child or grandchild, then to such child and grandchild by right of representation;
D. if the deceased is a minor, childless and unmarried, then to the father and mother who shall have an equal interest in the judgment, or if either of them is dead, then to the survivor;
E. if there is no father, mother, husband, wife, child or grandchild, then to a surviving brother or sister if there are any; and
F. if there is no kindred as named in Subsections A through E of this section, then the proceeds of the judgment shall be disposed of in the manner authorized by law for the disposition of the personal property of deceased persons." (sbm)
^ 2018 New Mexico Statutes :: Chapter 41 - Torts :: Article 2 - Wrongful Death; Actions for Damages /


*** ANNOTATION: RELATIONSHIP OF SUIT TO ESTATE.
"Relationship of suit to estate. — Wrongful death suit under this act has no relation to the estate, it being incidental that a "personal representative" is named to bring suit and it is not because this would fall within his duties as such, but because someone must be named and our legislature has fixed upon him as the one to sue. Henkel v. Hood, 1945-NMSC-006, 49 N.M. 45, 156 P.2d 790.
^ 2018 New Mexico Statutes :: Chapter 41 - Torts :: Article 2 - Wrongful Death; Actions for Damages :: Section 41-2-3 - Personal representative to bring action; damages; distribution of proceeds.

***ANNOTATION: PERS REP. NOT THE SAME AS IN PROBATE CODE
"Use of "personal representative" not same as in Probate Code. — "Personal representative" for the purpose of a wrongful death action is not synonymous with the parameters of the Probate Code, 45-1-101 NMSA 1978 et seq. Mackey v. Burke, 1984-NMCA-028, 102 N.M. 294, 694 P.2d 1359, cert.quashed, 102 N.M. 293, 694 P.2d 1358 (1985)."
 
This abq journal article brought a chuckle. I'm a 16-year resident of New Mexico; retired here from Massachusetts where I'd resided my entire life. I was soon told by locals that no matter what the government leaders want us to believe: 1) NM is Still the Wild West, and.... 2) We still think a little backwards out here, and... 3) Remember #1 and #2 and It's All Good.

4) swing by The Frontier and enjoy a cinnamon roll...and that's really good!
 
Consequences?

"The movie’s safety coordinator and assistant director, Dave Halls, pleaded guilty in March to negligent use of a deadly weapon and received a suspended sentence and six months of probation."
(Source? Sorry, I clipped this, then lost link.)

If, big IF DH's actions (whatever they were) substantially contributed to causing HH's death & JS's injury, ^ sentence is about like sending him to bed without any dinner.
 
From another article:

Alec Baldwin continues to embarrass Santa Fe New Mexico authorities who charged him with involuntary manslaughter ... because he may have been right all along when he insisted he never pulled the trigger on the gun that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

The prop gun Baldwin used back in 2021 had been modified, this according to the L.A. Times ... the trigger mechanism had been changed which increased the probability it could have misfired without Baldwin pulling the trigger.

As far as I am concerned, he should have never been charged. Sounds like this gun (regardless of when it was modified) was in bad shape. I never believed the supposed FBI report that it couldn't have been fired without pulling the trigger. Regardless, AB didn't know that gun was loaded with a real bullet. Who should have known how to figure out which bullet is real and which one is a dummy? A person specifically employed to be in charge of guns. A person who loaded the gun with an actual real bullet instead of a dummy. Not the actor.
 
As far as I am concerned, he should have never been charged. Sounds like this gun (regardless of when it was modified) was in bad shape. I never believed the supposed FBI report that it couldn't have been fired without pulling the trigger. Regardless, AB didn't know that gun was loaded with a real bullet. Who should have known how to figure out which bullet is real and which one is a dummy? A person specifically employed to be in charge of guns. A person who loaded the gun with an actual real bullet instead of a dummy. Not the actor.

Agreed 100% ! I also blame DH much more than AB. He is the one that loudly proclaimed it to be a cold gun. I know quite a bit about DH and he has a reputation in the industry of cutting corners and being bossy enough to overstep rules.
 
HAZARDS of responding to a days' old post, without having read subsequent posts and missing some MSM? My apologies.

Last night I posted about why, imo, if CC HH's parents & sister were to file lawsuit under NM's Wrongful Death statute, any possible resulting $$$ proceeds would not be distributed to them.
Still same opinion, but not relevant in light of lawsuit already filed in CA (pdf of 32 page petition* filed in L.A. Superior Ct. in Feb.)

HH's parents & sister CA-filed suit does not seek recovery under NM Wrongful Death statute. Common law?

********ETA: From quote in a post by @JennieM
"It is abundantly clear under New Mexico law, which will be applied in the California court that he is responsible for all of the harm he did to the entirety of Halyna Hutchins’ family. We are here to make sure that he is held accountable for his actions."
https://www.gloriaallred.com/" ^ spoken by Allred*****

No opinion as to likely outcome.

Welcoming clarification or correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals.
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* pdf of Complaint is in this Variety Feb. 9, 2023 article

Names 20-plus def’ts, including AB & other individuals in "Rust" cast & crew, & corps, LLC’s, DLLC's, other entities, Doe Defendants 1 - 100.
(SOP: name every Tom, Dick, & Harry as def't.)

“Complaint for loss of consortium damages.
1.Battery
2. Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
3.Negligence
4. Loss of Consortium.”

Page 12, ¶¶ 38 - 39. Jurisdiction & Venue.
Page 12, ¶ 42. Gen. Allegations
Refers to NM (N.M. Statutes § 30-7-4(A)(3)) "...unlawful for anyone to endanger the safety of another by handling or using a firearm in a negligent manner" and alleges "DEFENDANTS willfully disregarded the law of New Mexico when they acted as alleged hereinafter."

Page 17, ¶ 60. As a result of direct &proximate cause of shooting, HH's parents & sister suffer "loss of consortium damages"

Page 21. FIRST CAUSE OF ACTION
(Loss of Consortium Damages for Battery.
against DEFENDANT BALDWIN)
Page 22. SECOND CAUSE OF ACTION
(Loss of Consortium Damages for Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress
against DEFENDANT BALDWIN)
Page 24. THIRD CAUSE OF ACTION
(Loss of Consortium Damages for Negligence
against All DEFENDANTS)
Page 30. FOURTH CAUSE OF ACTION
(Loss of Consortium Damages
against All DEFENDANTS)
 
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Going a Round or Two in Court w AB?

Halyna's family is filing a separate suit on their own behalf (and not on behalf of the estate).
... Gloria Allred should know better, but of course, she may be hoping to go a round or two in court and just be an irritant to Alec Baldwin....
sbm

@10ofRods Apt phrasing.
 
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