Halyna Hutchins Shot With Prop Gun - Alec Baldwin indicted & Hannah Gutierrez-Reed charged, 2021 #7

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I was surprised she was remanded. Guns can be deadly, and HGR was far too cavalier with them. She was not being paid to hold onto weapons and hand them out. She did not do the job she was hired for. She seemed detached and annoyed in court-as if she was above it, or it wasn’t that serious. Acted like a tough girl. I don’t know if jail will be good for her or if she thinks it will give her street cred.
 
As a recap, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is standing trial for felony charges of involuntary manslaughter & tampering with evidence. If the jury finds her not guilty of involuntary manslaughter, they can still find her guilty of a misdemeanor charge of negligent use of a firearm.


The judge and prosecution are at their seats in the courtroom. We are waiting on the defense and Hannah Gutierrez-Reed. The courtroom is silent as we wait for them to get back to the courthouse. We are told they are nearby.


Special Prosecutor Kari Morrissey seems relaxed in her chair as she waits for the defense, defendant and jury. She is leaning back casually and glancing around the room. Her fellow attorneys are whispering among themselves.


Hannah Gutierrez-Reed has entered the courtroom. She looks around and gestures for her family members and/or friends to find a seat in the gallery. She is now sitting silently with her defense team as they wait for the jury to enter.


The jury has entered. The foreperson hands the verdict over to the judge. The foreperson will read the verdict out loud. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed stands to hear the outcome.


#BREAKING: THE #RustTrial VERDICT:
Involuntary Manslaughter: GUILTY
Tampering With Evidence: NOT GUILTY

6:10 PM · Mar 6, 2024 from Santa Fe, NM


Hannah Gutierrez-Reed watches on in disbelief. Defense attorney Jason Bowles briefly puts his head in his hands. Kari Morrissey sits with her head resting on her hand, fingers on her temple. The judge thanks the jury and allows them to leave.


The state requests that Hannah Gutierrez-Reed be taken into custody. Defense requests that she be released pending sentencing. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is keeping her head up and eyes on the judge.

The judge decides to remand her since she has been convicted. Deputies will take her into custody.

It appears Hannah-Gutierrez Reed's family, maybe mother, is silently sobbing. Someone rubs her back in comfort.

HGR is escorted by two deputies who take her into the back. Before she goes, she blows a kiss to her family and tells them she loves them.

After, the family member screams out loud as she walks out of the courtroom: "Stacked from the very get-go! It's a bunch of f---ing !”


@alcaprari23
 
HGR strikes me as the typical child of parents who never let her experience consequences and continually covered/made excuses for her. Enabling parents. That’s why she’s in jail tonight. Ultimately, these children grow up to be entitled, inconsiderate, careless adults who feel they are above everyone else. And sometimes they have to face a judge and that’s the first time they get a taste of real consequences. It’s a tough way to learn that lesson. Her parents failed her. Her dad was trying to get her out of this by blaming Kenney. It’s doubtful she will learn her lesson as long as her family tells her she’s a victim. JMO
 
arielilane said:
Looking at a transcription of an interview with HGR about a misfire on set: "I can't be responsible for every d---head, f---ing stunt guy that gets a hold of the gun and doesn't understand it's hot." Morrissey says that is exactly what her job responsibility is.
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In one sentence, she demonstrated ignorance of her own job title.
 
arielilane said:
Juror Alberto Sanchez explains how the jury reached a guilty verdict in the Hannah Gutierrez-Reed trial in less than three hours.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1765521178285023666



Defense Attorney Jason Bowles says he is disappointed in today's outcome and plans to appeal the decision. His client is now in custody and awaiting sentencing scheduled for a later date.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765522117326729553
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This juror is amazing & right IMO.
She took the job.
She could have stopped or shut everything down & checked - like she should have.
She was not a scapegoat.
She probably brought the live ammo with her.
A person is dead because she did not do her safety job.
 
arielilane said:
Very late to post these X postings , please scroll, if needed. Posting for the record.


STATE CLOSING ARUMENTS:


Kari Morrisey giving closing. Begins by showing a fullscreen headshot of Halyna Hutchins. "We end exactly as we began, in the pursuit of justice for Halyna Hutchins.”


Morrissey says HGR failed to maintain proper safety routinely. Says it was not one mistake, but constant, never-ending safety failures that resulted in the death of a human being and nearly another. In a picture being shown to the jury, a stuntman is holding a double barrel shotgun with the firearm pointed upward.


In a series of pictures, you see the gun pointed upward, pointing toward a child, pointing at a camera, and in one picture, a gun HGR is holding that is pointing at her face.


Looking at a transcription of an interview with HGR about a misfire on set: "I can't be responsible for every d---head, f---ing stunt guy that gets a hold of the gun and doesn't understand it's hot." Morrissey says that is exactly what her job responsibility is.


Morrissey showing a picture from 10/10/21 which shows HGR holding a box of rounds which Morrissey says are live. She says any time the jury sees photos of ammunition with a silver primer, then that is evidence of a live round.


Now looking at a photo from 10/15/21. We are looking at an enhanced photo of a holster and you can see ammo, including what Morrissey says is a live bullet. Another photo of a gun belt with four bullets, including one with a silver primer.


Morrissey: "Any suggestion by the defense that somehow the box of dummy rounds that HGR was using was swapped out for something different is absolute nonsense.”


Hutchins lethal injuries: Blood loss from the wound and injury to the lung. "That bullet went into her body, went through her rib, severed her spinal cord, punctured her lung, came out the back of her shoulder and a few hours later, Ms. Gutierrez is... worried about her career.”


State has wrapped it's closing arguments. We are taking a brief bathroom break. Back in 15 minutes.



DEFENSE CLOSING ARGUMENTS: Delivered by Jason Bowles. Says it is extremely important that the government rule out every reasonable doubt. Sarah Zachary threw away rounds after the shooting, Bowles says. Says that is reasonable doubt to the accuracy of the prosecutions argument


Bowles pointing to OSHA report that showed that production was responsible for various safety concerns and flaws on set. Did not respond to negligent discharges, did not create more safety meetings and opportunities, did not allow time for cleaning of weapons.


Bowles focusing in on two particular standards the jury must meet in order to find HGR guilty:

-HGR acted with a willful disregard for the safety of others.
-HGR's act caused the death of Halyna Hutchins


Final points for defense:

-Hannah could not anticipate what Baldwin would do when he went off script
-Management was responsible for safety failures
-Zero evidence of cocaine
-Hannah is a scape goat for all failures

"Justice for Halyna does not mean injustice for Hannah.
IT does not mean they get to steamroll her and get to spin their version of facts and call it truth. Because that's not truth.”

Defense has finished closing arguments.


State now gets to reply: Morrissey is speaking to the jury once again. She says she knows that Hannah didn't know there was a live round on set. Says if she knew, she wouldn't be charged with involuntary manslaughter, she'd be charged with murder.


She didn't know there were live rounds on set because of her own negligence, recklessness, willful disregard for the safety of other people, Morrissey says. "It is shocking for Mr. Bowles to come up to this podium and say it wasn't forseeable that Alec Baldwin would go off script.”


Morrissey: "It is her job to say to an A-list actor, 'hey, you can't behave that way with those firearms.' That is her job. That is what they pay her for. That is the job that she applied for. That is the job that she accepted.”


Morrissey says she and law enforcement have reviewed thousands of photos and videos, interviewing many people the jury never even heard from. To the jury: "You have absolutely everything you need.”


"This is 100% forseeable. HGR is not a scapegoat, she is not being treated as a scapegoat. Mr. Halls was charged criminally... Mr. Baldwin has been indicted....she is not being scapegoated, she is being treated like everyone else. She is not being given a break because she is a woman or because she is young because that's not how the law works.”


Morrissey trying to clarify reasonable doubt to the jury. Does not have to prove this case beyond absolute doubt. "When you are back there talking about doubt, make sure its a reasonable one under these circumstances.”


State thanks the jury once again and asks them to bring justice to Halyna Hutchins. State has closed.


Jury will now begin deliberations.



@alcaprari23
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“Looking at a transcription of an interview with HGR about a misfire on set: "I can't be responsible for every d---head, f---ing stunt guy that gets a hold of the gun and doesn't understand it's hot." Morrissey says that is exactly what her job responsibility is”

That’s the dumbest thing to say! No one should get a hold of a gun that is your responsibility to control-NO ONE. She incriminated herself further by admitting that someone picked it up. Admission of guilt.

That same person can say she is a #%^*€ for not having it in her possession at all times.
 
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BeachSky said:
This juror is amazing & right IMO.
She took the job.
She could have stopped or shut everything down & checked - like she should have.
She was not a scapegoat.
She probably brought the live ammo with her.
A person is dead because she did not do her safety job.
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As we’ve been saying in here, this is a simple case. And this juror’s summary is perfection! He also said she didn’t need to stop things, she could’ve paused! His demeanor is the prototype for the perfect post-verdict juror interview.
 
Ok before I type this let me say I know that it is really shallow in light of this trial and conviction. But earlier in the trial I was surprised to see how casually some of the witnesses dressed for court and was reminded of that when I saw the juror interview above. Is that typical in NM?

Here in AR we don’t get dressed up for much of anything besides church but most would not dress quite so casually for court whether as a witness or juror or even as a defendant in traffic court…just kidding about that part…we don’t have traffic court lol. Just wondering if that’s the norm in NM…has nothing to do with anything and I mean no disrespect by asking…just curious.
 
aafromaa said:
Ok before I type this let me say I know that it is really shallow in light of this trial and conviction. But earlier in the trial I was surprised to see how casually some of the witnesses dressed for court and was reminded of that when I saw the juror interview above. Is that typical in NM?

Here in AR we don’t get dressed up for much of anything besides church but most would not dress quite so casually for court whether as a witness or juror or even as a defendant in traffic court…just kidding about that part…we don’t have traffic court lol. Just wondering if that’s the norm in NM…has nothing to do with anything and I mean no disrespect by asking…just curious.
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Halls had on a suit jacket and collared shirt, same with Souza and Kenney I believe, Zachary and script supervisor were also business casual, detective was business casual, experts wore suit jackets I believe. Who was informal? I’ve seen waaaay worse in Florida trials. Treehouse trial in Key West comes to mind from a recent trial I watched - key witness wore shorts.

Oh and jurors wear whatever they want. I’ve never seen jurors dress formal - those interviewed right after that is.
 
I think this was a fair verdict. She was nonchalant with her safety duties and it resulted in a death. Did it ever come up in the trial what her salary was for this job? Has no bearing on anything, I’m just curious.

I really dislike Alec Baldwin as a human, but I feel he is less negligible than Hannah. As an actor, I’d assume the professional armorer is certifying the gun is safe when it’s handed to me (unless there’s certain regulations on the set where an actor has similar requirements to follow with guns).
 
BrownRice said:
I think this was a fair verdict. She was nonchalant with her safety duties and it resulted in a death. Did it ever come up in the trial what her salary was for this job? Has no bearing on anything, I’m just curious.

I really dislike Alec Baldwin as a human, but I feel he is less negligible than Hannah. As an actor, I’d assume the professional armorer is certifying the gun is safe when it’s handed to me (unless there’s certain regulations on the set where an actor has similar requirements to follow with guns).
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I posted a Fox Business article earlier this week that had their pay - she made about $8k as armorer. Let’s remember she only had 10 days as armorer.
 
arielilane said:
Juror Alberto Sanchez explains how the jury reached a guilty verdict in the Hannah Gutierrez-Reed trial in less than three hours.


https://twitter.com/x/status/1765521178285023666



Defense Attorney Jason Bowles says he is disappointed in today's outcome and plans to appeal the decision. His client is now in custody and awaiting sentencing scheduled for a later date.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765522117326729553
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Interviewing a juror who works at Los Alamos National Laboratory, where they design nuclear weapons, among other things. He knows safety and understands why procedures are necessary, no nonsense.

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Los Alamos National Laboratory - Wikipedia

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Weki said:
I posted a Fox Business article earlier this week that had their pay - she made about $8k as armorer. Let’s remember she only had 10 days as armorer.
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As armor she would also be involved in pre-production and post-production work. Selecting weapons, ordering ammo, packing and unpacking all the equipment, inventory, transporting weapons to and from the prop house, etc. So it was likely more than just ten days.

It actually struck me as a pretty low wage. By contrast, Dave Halls would have made over $50K. Judging by IMDB an armorer might do two or three movies a year. Clearly she could never have supported herself at that salary.

I assume an experienced armorer would have charged much more. But I'm sure getting someone cut-rate was the main reason that they hired HGR.
 
ch_13 said:
As armor she would also be involved in pre-production and post-production work. Selecting weapons, ordering ammo, packing and unpacking all the equipment, inventory, transporting weapons to and from the prop house, etc. So it was likely more than just ten days.

It actually struck me as a pretty low wage. By contrast, Dave Halls would have made over $50K. Judging by IMDB an armorer might do two or three movies a year. Clearly she could never have supported herself at that salary.

I assume an experienced armorer would have charged much more. But I'm sure getting someone cut-rate was the main reason that they hired HGR.
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Iirc, another armorer declined the job on the Rust set, not because of the remuneration, but because he had some complaints and misgivings of how lax everything appeared to be. I remember him stating some such thing earlier on.
 
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