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I don't know why Mark Klass buys this Tommy guy's story...I don't buy it... I want the cops to ask Tommy again what he did when he realized no one was home. He says he waited around for awhile...he banged on the door...no one was there...he split.

what if he never banged on the door? what does he mean he hung around? where did he hang around? in the back? in the front? by the door? was he peeping in the windows? did he see Haleigh sleeping there? did he decide to go in? maybe he was going to bang on the door but he saw people sleeping through the window....maybe he hung around for awhile to see if anyone woke up...how long did he hang around? How did he get to Misty's house? did he drive the red truck?
 
Whats the farce exactly? Easy to put that out there, but doesn't tell me what it is. When I imagine the word farce, it's multi-dimensional, big, deep and mostly nothing is right. A farce, let me looksy it up on dic.com brb

farce 
–noun 1.a light, humorous play in which the plot depends upon a skillfully exploited situation rather than upon the development of character.2.humor of the type displayed in such works.3.foolish show; mockery; a ridiculous sham.


I think Major Gary Bowling used this as a noun, not a verb, and conclude he used it meaning the definition described in number 3. foolish show, mockery and ridiculous sham. Okay, that's a pretty darn strong direct allegation towards Misty.

Whats the farce? So far, everything that we have confirmed shows she's told the truth, nothing or no one has come forward and contradicted her with evidence. The only direct contradictions we have are "words" spoken from others with nothing substantiating their claims. Give me something to hang my hat on here.
 
What if this is the novice of a case and we come to learn LE was wrong? With their wrongness, they mis-led and caused a trail of followers to jump on the band wagon of "Misty is guilty".

Mark Klaas rocks! Go Mark!!1

I think it does appear that he suspects Misty....so yeah...Go Mark....hope we get some truth..
 
I don't know why Mark Klass buys this Tommy guy's story...I don't buy it... I want the cops to ask Tommy again what he did when he realized no one was home. He says he waited around for awhile...he banged on the door...no one was there...he split.

what if he never banged on the door? what does he mean he hung around? where did he hang around? in the back? in the front? by the door? was he peeping in the windows? did he see Haleigh sleeping there? did he decide to go in? maybe he was going to bang on the door but he saw people sleeping through the window....maybe he hung around for awhile to see if anyone woke up...how long did he hang around? How did he get to Misty's house? did he drive the red truck?

Whoooa, unless I mis-understood him on Nancy's show, he didn't believe Tommy and had suspicions that Tommy is now in the hot seat.
 
I think it does appear that he suspects Misty....so yeah...Go Mark....hope we get some truth..

I only caught the part about Tommy, my son turned the channel and I didn't hear anything he may have said about Misty, so I can't comment any further on that part, or I would be conjuring up a post. :angel:
 
I am already of the opinion that Misty cannot tell time. Or not very well. I think she knows the hours-3 o'clock, 6 o'clock, etc but not the quarter of or half past. 6:30, 3:15 etc. I also think she does not know measurements-feet, inches, yards. I think she can cook, but cannot probably read 'measurements-1/4 cup, 1/2 cup. 1tsp vs 1 tbs. The family she grew up in certainly did not give her cooking lessons, and her inability to do math is probably a learning disability, diagnosed or not. This very well is why she couldn't learn, school was hard and she stopped going.

Therefore. I don't give too much credence to 'she went to bed at 10:00..or 10:30...or 11:00. it is very likely was she went to bed at 8 or 8:30, right after the kids. Either she didn't feel comfortable saying she went to bed that early, or she glances at a clock and reads the big number...I don't think anything based on Misty's time perceptions will be accurate.

I think she has a memory for 'things'...but not details. She may know Haleigh was dressed, but not what she was wearing. She may know it was cold, but not the temperature. I don't think Misty is lying as much as she has limited cognizance and memory. Details have probably been relatively unimportant to her, and she never trained herself to remember them. She reminds me of many special education children I have worked with with learning disabilities. I feel like they paint the world with a large paintbrush, but cannot use the smaller brush for details. She probably was perfectly capable to watch the children, run a washer, cook a simple meal, and put them to bed. But when an emergency came up, she would be unprepared to handle it. She probably slept the sleep of a child herself, not anticipating any danger (doors were locked) and sleeping deeply til Ron got home and the 'world was well". She leaves out important details because details are unimportant to her-they don't barely imprint in her mind. When asked about these details, she is probably trying to remember and fill in these gaps, but doesn't appear accurate as she may be 'creating' them, or again, didn't notice them well in the first place.

I don't see deception, as much as I see confusion. She is overwhelmed, and probably realistically has 'no clue'. Myself? I do feel she was home sleeping-whether drug or alcohol induced, or just the dead sleep of a child. I honestly believe she really has no idea of what happened. Failing the lie detectors could be because she 'thinks' she knows what 'may' have happened. It could be fear, and it could be worry-in my opinion, she has some guesses of her own. It may also be the way the questions are asked-for accurate answers, the questions would have to be asked in a manner and language she understands. Someones mind would have to understand the way her mind works, and ask accordingly. Perhaps someone local in the area who is used to teaching or working with special-needs children and learning-impaired children could question Misty-they may get better results, phrasing questions in dialect and words in a manner that are simple yes or no answers, or questions that address the way Misty's thought processes would work.
 
Very sorry about that. I guess I never realized that I was repeating what everyone that reported on the case said. Funny how their statements creep into our brain. I realize that I was typing MH or trailer though. There was no particular reason for it....I am speaking only for myself here. I never considered that someone might take offense to it.

I don't think there is anything bad about living in a trailer. Except after living here in Alabama and watching news footage of how quickly they are picked up in a tornado...

No need to be sorry! I was typing it too and then kinda felt like an a-hole when I realized what I was typing. I am sure many people who live in trailers have pure hearts just like those who live in mansions can have evil hearts..Doesn't matter what you live in or where... criminals live in all types of houses.
 
I'm going to make a covenant to myself and vicky not to do that anymore. It's true what she says, and living in a trailer, mobile home, shack, hut, cabin, boat, tent and where my hubby dwells a dog house, ain't no shame in that. Haleigh's home.

Thanks Kool.. I just felt like an a-hole typing MH repeatedly. Who am I to clarify that another family lives in a mobile home instead of a "house". I surely don't live in a castle myself.
 
Me typing MH, rather than the home where haleigh lived is pure laziness on my part. We love our abbreviations here on WS, and i dont think people are meaning to be disrespectful in any way. The pics I've seen of the home show it looks quite nice inside...no different from any other home.

But I do believe the media plays up details like this...deliberately. When its a mansion-they play on that. when its a trailer or MH, they will play on that too.When there's a crime in the average surburban home they'll say things like 'what secrets lie behind this typical suburban home'.

I think the fact that this family has such a long criminal history has made the media jump on the 'trailer trash' bandwagon, when it has nothing to do with where they live, but how they choose to live their lives.

JMO

Agreed and Amen!
 
Those were not my words...they were Maj. Gary Bowling's. He stated them very matter of fact with no indication they did not believe GGS, imo.

I have never seen what the problem is with when GGS said she went to Haleigh's home to take the laundry. She didn't mention that Aunt Lisa was with them either, but why is it a big deal? She must have told LE about it. Maj. Bowling didn't say she waited all this time to mention it like he did say about Tommy being there! Evidently, this took LE by surprise that no one besides Tommy ever told them he was at the house around or near the time Haleigh went missing. I can see why they would think this part was a big deal!

Ronald stopping off to get things on his way home I don't consider suspect either. Most people do the same on their way home from work so they don't have to go back out. If he thought that something really wrong besides Misty being mad at him...I don't think he would have done it.
Ya know, after 7 months I don't believe anything anymore. That whole night seems so off. I just wish LE could find something...anything to put an end to all this.
 
The question I would like to see answered is "WHAT did they find in HC's red truck?" Seems to me there has been a whole flurry of activity since they found it...turning up the heat, draining the pond, etc...
 
The question I would like to see answered is "WHAT did they find in HC's red truck?" Seems to me there has been a whole flurry of activity since they found it...turning up the heat, draining the pond, etc...
You have that right!! What DID they find in that truck?! And WHY did Tommy get rid of it as soon as Haleigh went missing? And WHO was discussing the red truck to Misty as being seen in the area? LE? Neighbors? Who?! (I personally think LE told her that tid bit of info.)
 
Ya know, after 7 months I don't believe anything anymore. That whole night seems so off. I just wish LE could find something...anything to put an end to all this.
IMO, they have...they found Tommy was there by his own words. I think it will be the end all to this mess.
 
I am already of the opinion that Misty cannot tell time. Or not very well. I think she knows the hours-3 o'clock, 6 o'clock, etc but not the quarter of or half past. 6:30, 3:15 etc. I also think she does not know measurements-feet, inches, yards. I think she can cook, but cannot probably read 'measurements-1/4 cup, 1/2 cup. 1tsp vs 1 tbs. The family she grew up in certainly did not give her cooking lessons, and her inability to do math is probably a learning disability, diagnosed or not. This very well is why she couldn't learn, school was hard and she stopped going.

Therefore. I don't give too much credence to 'she went to bed at 10:00..or 10:30...or 11:00. it is very likely was she went to bed at 8 or 8:30, right after the kids. Either she didn't feel comfortable saying she went to bed that early, or she glances at a clock and reads the big number...I don't think anything based on Misty's time perceptions will be accurate.

I think she has a memory for 'things'...but not details. She may know Haleigh was dressed, but not what she was wearing. She may know it was cold, but not the temperature. I don't think Misty is lying as much as she has limited cognizance and memory. Details have probably been relatively unimportant to her, and she never trained herself to remember them. She reminds me of many special education children I have worked with with learning disabilities. I feel like they paint the world with a large paintbrush, but cannot use the smaller brush for details. She probably was perfectly capable to watch the children, run a washer, cook a simple meal, and put them to bed. But when an emergency came up, she would be unprepared to handle it. She probably slept the sleep of a child herself, not anticipating any danger (doors were locked) and sleeping deeply til Ron got home and the 'world was well". She leaves out important details because details are unimportant to her-they don't barely imprint in her mind. When asked about these details, she is probably trying to remember and fill in these gaps, but doesn't appear accurate as she may be 'creating' them, or again, didn't notice them well in the first place.

I don't see deception, as much as I see confusion. She is overwhelmed, and probably realistically has 'no clue'. Myself? I do feel she was home sleeping-whether drug or alcohol induced, or just the dead sleep of a child. I honestly believe she really has no idea of what happened. Failing the lie detectors could be because she 'thinks' she knows what 'may' have happened. It could be fear, and it could be worry-in my opinion, she has some guesses of her own. It may also be the way the questions are asked-for accurate answers, the questions would have to be asked in a manner and language she understands. Someones mind would have to understand the way her mind works, and ask accordingly. Perhaps someone local in the area who is used to teaching or working with special-needs children and learning-impaired children could question Misty-they may get better results, phrasing questions in dialect and words in a manner that are simple yes or no answers, or questions that address the way Misty's thought processes would work.
I could not agree with you more. We were just discussing the possibility that Misty went to a mental health facility where they could do testing on her to establish those very things and help her with any issues she may have. I have also felt that Ronald could have learning disabilities which is a reason he may have gravitated towards someone like Misty.
 
So Tommy not only placed himself at the mobile home - he now says he knocked on the door saw no lights got no answer - so he hung around for awhile to see if she would come home. So he has placed himself at the mobile home for more than just a few minutes of time. I think he is trying to cover because someone might have seen him or his vehicle there.
 
Maybe not...maybe he was protecting his sister and saw the error in his ways...he is a father and this all might have just caught up to him...THINK RATGATE---a threat was made...no doubt in my mind...

JMO

BBM...
Yes because he may be the only person willing to come forward to say she was not home, and some may have not wanted this info confirmed by a witness..
 
“Misty is the type that if you ask her a question that she doesn’t want to answer, she reminds us she has a lawyer,” said Bowling.

Looks like it's MC who needs to give LE something to hang their hats on. I'm just relieved that since learning HC revealed this about his sister Misty, someone in LE--Maj. Bowling--is finally being forthright and plainspoken, neither hedging nor mincing words. He states in no uncertain terms that what MC has offered LE has been altogether unbelievable.

be·liev·a·ble (bĭ-lē'və-bəl)
adj. Capable of eliciting belief or trust. Syn. credible, reliable, trustworthy

un·be·liev·a·ble (un-bi-lē'və-bəl)
adj. 1. too dubious or improbable to be believed: an unbelievable excuse.
2. so remarkable as to strain credulity

"So remarkable as to strain credulity." :waitasec: Since I wasn't sure what "credulity" even meant I had to look that up too... :blushing:

cre·du·li·ty noun. 1. willingness to believe or trust too readily, esp. without proper or adequate evidence; 2. gullibility.

They may not trust HC2 down at HQ, but it sounds like Misty has been insulting their intelligence. JMO

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/conten...igh-Cummings-case/LUzL96-XdkaN3mv-O_qs6A.cspx

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BBM...
Yes because he may be the only person willing to come forward to say she was not home, and some may have not wanted this info confirmed by a witness..
Or maybe Tommy is the real "key". He only came forward with information when he was presented with evidence which placed him there, imo.

I think the more LE uncovers about Tommy...the closer they will come to solving this case. I don't expect Tommy to tell them what he really did that night after he supposedly knocked on the door, but he will do everything he can to incriminate Misty from now on. Let's just see which path LE takes. They now have the missing piece of the puzzle to put it all together...but will they still continue to insist on Misty and let him walk?! We shall see.
 
In Court is precisely where it's been demonstrated and becomes painfully patent RC is not merely the downtrodden, misunderstood victim of a "learning disability." JMO

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