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Who puts on the same clothes they wore during a very long day of visiting and Christmasing the day before. I mean honestly. It is a failure in logic to think she put on the very same outfit she wore yesterday to travel in. This woman showed up to a portrait session dressed to the nines, but she'd re-wear an entire outfit 2 days in a row? Let's try to be realistic. IMO, she was STILL WEARING what she wore the day before. She hadn't gone to bed yet when this debacle occurred.
On the question of Patsys wearing the same clothes on the morning of December 26 as she wore the night before, there is another possibility. That possibility is based on speculation, but there is at least a basis for that speculation. I only mention this because it is something newer posters may not be aware of, and as an unconfirmed possibility, we can choose to consider it or dismiss it. Nevertheless, it is something that cant be completely ignored. BPD didnt.
The question is, did Patsy put back on the same clothes she wore the previous night, or did she never get out of them from the previous night. And if she never got out of them -- why? To my knowledge, the question was never answered publicly, but it is something that the BPD definitely looked into.
From an online chat (all bbm) with Steve Thomas, November 14, 2000 (http://crimejusticeandamerica.com/sthomas2):BILL BICKEL: Did John or Patsy leave the house the night of the 25/6?
STEVE THOMAS: million dollar question. or, as the detectives would say, the $118,000 question.
From an interview with Judith Phillips (Miller), photographer and former friend of the Ramseys (http://thewebsafe.tripod.com/02062000judithphillipsinterview.htm):Mame: when did the police first speak with you?
JP: I think in April, not sure,
March or April
Mame: and did you ask to be spoken to? Or did they take it upon themselves to
JP: they called me first and asked if it would be okay if they could interview me down at police headquarters. And I said, sure.
Mame: did they want to know more about what type of person Patsy was?
JP: well they asked, they interviewed me 3 times. The first time was short and Steve Thomas and Gosage was there and there was a woman whose name I don't recall, those were the 3 that interviewed me. It was taped and I didn't have a problem with that at all. They asked odd questions like , do you know this person as related to John Ramsey? They were naming off at least a half of dozen female names and, no I've never heard of that person before and no, I never knew that person before. And they would ask
.
Mame: Not related as relatives, but the connection in terms of his life, who they were?
JP: yeah, women involved with John. They were hinting at an affair. I said, Why did you ask me the names of these women? They said, well, it's believed that John Ramsey had had quite a few affairs, not only in Atlanta but also here in Boulder. Do you know of anything? I knew, really none. (Laughs). John has such a devious quality about himself there was no way that he would let anybody know about his trysts whether they were real or not. But I found it interesting the line of, the police line of questions and how it went. Then they asked me if I knew about Patsy, if I saw her anger, if I saw her lose her temper and if I knew if she had ever had any relationships here in Boulder, you know questions like, personality type questions.
Mame: did she?
JP: not that I know of, but I have been told by a friend by a friend of mine who is much more deeply involved in this story than I am, that she met with a woman in Denver that had a health club that had played racquet ball with a, ... I'm trying to think he was. Not an account
..
Mame: an investment person?
JP: An investment person. Yeah, and according to her friend that she knows very well, this investment person who is a man had said that he had a relationship with Patsy that night.
Mame: of the murder?
JP: yeah, that they had come home from the party at the Whites and Patsy had left the home, and had attended a party where they had a fling going.
Mame: do you believe that?
JP: You know, like...
Mame: How do you know?
JP: How do you know? It's not that I don't disbelieve it, it's like
. You know???
Mame: that's the story that Jann Scott sort of threw out, was that was the line of thinking that they had up with that this boyfriend had come back.
JP: yeah, well, I'm trying to investigate that. I have to do it very carefully.
Mame: I hope you'll keep us informed.
JP: I will. I have to be very careful, because I'm sure that she under any circumstances, that this man was apparently a father of the children where JonBenét and Burke attended school.
Mame: your school?
JP: their school. At that time they switched from the public school, to I .. Can't remember the name of it. They were a special satellite school.
mame: a magnet school.
JP: A magnet school. Patsy left, Susan Stine left and Roxy left and took their kids with them.
Mame: a magnet school
JP: a magnet school.
Mame: so it was apparently a father,
JP: yeah, who he did not,
he was married, he did not want anyone to know even if, this is true, can you imagine that he is willing to keep his secret, secret?
Mame: yeah, I can't imagine with all the scrutiny that,
but, you don't know.
JP: uh, huh.
Mame: that's fascinating.
JP: yes, it is fascinating.
Mame: But did you hear that there are good sources that you hear this from are sound enough that it's worth pursuing, that it's worth investigating
whether or not it's connected
JP: there is not one leaf that I would leave unturned in this particular case. I try not to have an opinion of something until I've investigated it further. So, I believe that this is something worth following up on. But I want to be real careful, because if this is true, this man is keeping an incredible secret.
Besides this exchange, there is much more that makes this interview worth reading. Here are a couple of examples (bbm):Mame: Burke. Tell me about Burke. Was he, you said he was shy?
JP: He's an odd child. He was always very odd, odd meaning I just couldn't put my finger on him. He was very hard to read, he was very closed, he was very difficult to get an impression on, because he would very rarely let his true self come out. He preferred to play computer games, really didn't like to be..
Mame: he was sort of nerdy? Not nerdy, but sort of that more techno, I mean, I know kids like that, just aren't, the kid's out on the skateboards or you know, on the basketball team, or, ah...
JP: But he was still very naturally athletic too, yeah, he was. He had a bicycle that he just rode all over his neighbourhood, I understand that he did quite a bit of skiing, he also rode his skateboard . I think that he was naturally athletically inclined.
Mame: Did his shyness affect how he ...
JP: Oh yes, that's why I think he turned and related to the computer. It was a way of escape for him.
Mame: and communication?
JP: and communication, absolutely.
(Why do some posters continue to say he was "frail", "scrawny", "puny", or whatever other insulting descriptors they choose? He wasn't.)
Mame: Do you worry about Burke these days?
JP: Oh, oh absolutely. But he's gone. I mean, I used to worry about him even before the murder. He's totally lost.
Mame: yeah, the damage is done. Has to be just..
JP: yeah, I wish if I had anything to say to either of them. Especially to Patsy, is please be a brave person and tell the truth and you know what that truth is.
Mame: Wouldn't that save everybody a lot of
JP: It would save her.
Mame: uh, huh.
JP: it's because she's so religious that I know that the truth was something that Christianity supports and not lying. I don't know how she lives with herself. She's got to do mental games. She's got to have these mental games where she twists and turns and compartmentalize things. Put things away in hiding, doesn't even think about them anymore. Very similar to, what was her name? Gone with Wind?
Mame: Scarlet.
JP: Scarlet I'll think it tomorrow. She's got to. I mean, she's got to. I wish she could release herself from the game. The play.
Mame: I'll think about it tomorrow.
JP: yeah.
And a few more insider tidbits subjects such as:rich justice
the sidetracking of justice
political conspiracy
Hal Haddon had contributed to Alex Hunter's political campaign.
Susan Stine, her, probably her life's journey is to take care of Patsy.
And this was, actually almost 2 years before Alex Hunter announced.. He (Doc Miller) said the fix is in, Judith. They're never going to convict Patsy or John. It will never ever, ever, ever happen.
