why is there a need to cover the first strangulation anyway?
And if it's staging, why is it deeply furrowed into her neck in which you can see that it contributed to her strangling?
UKGuy, are you saying that particular strangling is a staged strangling to cover up the original strangling, and if so, why?
Also, what about this statement from DeeDee249 in the Ligature Marks thread:
DeeDee says:
"If you look at the photo closely, you'll see that at least one of the ligature marks is WHITE, NOT RED- an indication it was made after death during the earliest unfixed stages of livor mortis, which is the blanching stage, Pressure anywhere after death during the blanching stage will result in the now-still blood being pushed out from under the pressure point, and as it is beginning to gel, it does not flow back into the space, making the white mark. In a LIVE person, the blood will flow immediately back in when pressure is removed, and anyone can try this on themselves. It works best on the lower legs."
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Okay, I'm trying to understand - if that one, and I think there are two, white ligature furrows are blanching/white because they were made after her death, but the furrow in which the ligature is deeply embedded is red meaning it was done while she was still alive, then how did the other marks get there after she was dead, if they were made with the same ligature? The person would have to un-embed the ligature from the furrowed spot it was found tightly knotted in on her neck, and move it to those spots... unless the blanched areas were made by something else? Or unless the science doesn't (only) work that way - just asking either way.....
So upon close study, I wonder if she was strangled by two things at once?...
When you look at this pic you see the two distinct white blanched marks around the neck, and the bottom one IS slanted up towards the knot on the ligature itself. But the pink abrasion in the middle between the two white blanched marks fit the same shape (not the rust colored triangular abrasion that we know is bleeding into the neck from strangulation as shown on other victims, just for clarification). In other words, the pink abrasioned area comes to the same point, slanting up perfectly between / demarcated into the white ligature marks. It looks like someone colored in that pink exactly betwen the two white marks. That looks like almost one other completely separate strangling injury by a completely separate strangling implement that caused that pattern. And again, that injury does slant up and towards the back of her neck. In order for the pink middle abrasion and the two white outlining abrasions to make that shape, it would have to be something that was able to bunch/gather into that slanted shape - cloth, what have you:
...Or if the rope/ligature was wrapped around her neck multiple times causing that pattern of injury?...
...Or if it was more than one strangulation device? If so, why?
I also think the white in the patterns on her neck are not just in the shape of the rope, but different: wavy on the top one, and the bottom one gets a little larger at the end of where it stops and the red part begins begins...
ugh, Im just going to have to draw out what i'm talking about for each thing I am trying to point out.... that would be a lot easier....it's hard to explain if everyone is looking at something different and our computer screens and lighting is not the same for everyone as well....
I'll try to do that later...in the meantime, before I can illustrate on the pics exactly what I am talking about, in this photo below, can anyone see the wavy pattern on the top white mark in this pic? Note that the arrows and notes are NOT my illustrations; they are from Zyberzoom pointing out previously that he (?) thinks the rope was wrapped around twice...I don't know if that's the case - asking the questions above, and pointing out that the rope being wrapped around more than once is one possibility. The question about the wavy pattern in the top white mark on her neck is not circled or noted on this photo, or as of yet by me..just want to see if you all can see it if you look at it in the lighting on your screen a certain way.
Whaleshark,
UKGuy, are you saying that particular strangling is a staged strangling to cover up the original strangling, and if so, why?
Yes I am. Just apply some common sense to the scenario. If the head injury is an accident, the why would you immediately strangle and assault your daughters body, then institute a cover up? Bear in mind JonBenet has various contusions and abrasions on her body.
We do not know where to start: head injury or strangulation? Well we know the sexual assault came first, so it seems likely there was an altercation, where JonBenet's neck was compressed, once she was released she fell to the ground hitting some object so sustaining her head injury. The rest is staging.
JonBenet was
not dead when she was transported to the basement. She was in a coma, and without immediate medical assistance would slowly die.
The person who applied the ligature to her neck may or may not have known she was still alive. Because the ligature furrow is circumferential we can infer JonBenet was lying down, otherwise gravity would offer a different furrow pattern.
So it appears there were two strangulation events, the last one being fatal. It might be fairer to describe the first event as a
compression where the collar of a shirt, or fingers, is compressed against the neck, which does not have to result in a loss of conciousness. This first compression event is what I think caused the red abrasion marks on the front of JonBenet's neck. The ligature is simply staging, so to mask the original compression event. But it is this that is the cause of death in association with her head injury. The neck and head trauma multiply the effects of oxygen deprivation resulting JonBenet's death.
I think nearly everything in the wine-cellar is staging. The killer(s) immediate postmortem goal will be to disassociate JonBenet from the primary crime-scene and stage some kind of alternative scenario. Relocating JonBenet to the wine-cellar achieves this. The primary crime-scene may have actually been a parents bedroom, her bathroom, and a secondary crime-scene may have been JonBenet's own bedroom, since there is forensic evidence located there e.g. blood or mucus.
So JonBenet may have been abused in another room in the house e.g. a bedroom. Following her neck and head injury, she may have been placed in her own bed so to fake a bedtime assault. Then things were revised to that of a bedtime abduction, so JonBenet was transported to the basement. Where the ligature was applied, possibly the size-12's and longjohns all acting as elements that obscure and hide. They are not really required since the autopsy will eventually reveal a sexual assault, so JonBenet could have been left naked?
Why so? Well some suggest
undoing as an explanation. This is possible, but in the context of actual crime-scene fabrication, it represents a secondary factor.
Then there is the time John Ramsey had to himself the following morning when Fleet White and John Fernie were taking Burke back to his house. Did John apply the restraints and duct tape at this point or was that a prior event?
With a piece of the paintbrush missing some have speculated it was left inside JonBenet after violating her. This would provide cover for the prior sexual assault.
So most of the forensic evidence in the wine-cellar has been invented to promote what would later become Lou Smit's Psychopathic Intruder theory, and now Wechts EA theory.
The most important piece of evidence comes from the Coroners lips when he stated that there was
digital penetration and
sexual contact directly prior to JonBenet's death.
So I see events unfolding so: sexual abuse, altercation, neck compression, head injury, staging, death!
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