GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #1

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Ransom said:
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I want to go back to Robert Scott, the father of this missing daughter. We only have a couple of seconds, sir. But what do you make of the fact that he said publicly that he failed a polygraph?

R. SCOTT: Well, I don`t know what questions or what failing the polygraph defines, you know, if they asked him a direct question or not, I would assume. Certainly it`s very concerning.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Have you been able to talk to him? Have you been able to talk to him?

(CROSSTALK)

R. SCOTT: No. Nor would I attempt to at this point. I would not, nor any of us would try to attempt to contact him at this point.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: He`s the last one who saw her. Sir, we want to stay on top of this.

R. SCOTT: I know. Just in terms of, you know, the scrutiny he`s under, and the police investigation, I just don`t think it would be a good idea at this point. As much as I want to, believe me, it`s very difficult to not want to go and confront and get some direct questions answered.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mr. Scott --

R. SCOTT: I feel it`s best at this time to not made contact with him. That`s all.

read the rest here:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1402/17/ijvm.01.html
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From the transcript:

"27-year-old Carly Scott, known to friends as Charli, disappeared eight days ago after she told her sister she was heading out to help her ex- boyfriend, the father of her unborn child, get his car out of the ditch at 8:30 at night. Her ex claims Charli helped him out then simply disappeared from his rear view mirror as the two were driving on the Hana Highway Hawaii in separate cars."

BBM, underlined by me, highlighted by me...
What!! This is the first I heard he was in a ditch. So he pulled out his car using some "light tools" which would include what, a tow rope, a chain, :banghead:
 
Thanks for the transcript, Ransom. I agree with the dad, Mr. Scott, it wouldn't be wise to confront the ex b/f right now, if he is a typical father. Should the ex develop a sudden attitude and get nasty or something, I'm sure it would be very tempting to knock his block off.
I'm very concerned about the gloves and duct tape that was found. But like a previous poster said, it doesn't make sense to take her clothes off and leave them, yet tie her up with duct tape and dump her in the ocean. Why not discard those things in the water as well? Wonder if the items were found in the burned out car? I would think the gloves would burn and the duct tape would melt, but IDK. This is perplexing.
 
TxLady2 said:
Thanks for the transcript, Ransom. I agree with the dad, Mr. Scott, it wouldn't be wise to confront the ex b/f right now, if he is a typical father. Should the ex develop a sudden attitude and get nasty or something, I'm sure it would be very tempting to knock his block off.
I'm very concerned about the gloves and duct tape that was found. But like a previous poster said, it doesn't make sense to take her clothes off and leave them, yet tie her up with duct tape and dump her in the ocean. Why not discard those things in the water as well? Wonder if the items were found in the burned out car? I would think the gloves would burn and the duct tape would melt, but IDK. This is perplexing.
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Maybe removing clothes to make it look like a sexual assault? And using the duct tape. Thinking back to Laci Peterson, her torso was found, no arms or legs. I hate to be so graphic but duct taping her arms and legs to her torso would help keep her body intact so that something didn't wash ashore. Or so that she would fit in a metal drum. Sorry, awful thoughts.
 
TxLady2 said:
Thanks for the transcript, Ransom. I agree with the dad, Mr. Scott, it wouldn't be wise to confront the ex b/f right now, if he is a typical father. Should the ex develop a sudden attitude and get nasty or something, I'm sure it would be very tempting to knock his block off.
I'm very concerned about the gloves and duct tape that was found. But like a previous poster said, it doesn't make sense to take her clothes off and leave them, yet tie her up with duct tape and dump her in the ocean. Why not discard those things in the water as well? Wonder if the items were found in the burned out car? I would think the gloves would burn and the duct tape would melt, but IDK. This is perplexing.
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I agree with you and the dad. lol. The written word can't display how much JVM was pushing CJS dad to call the ex. I was just :thud: at that attitude by Jane.
 
umm. who calls their ex, or any girl, much less a pregnant one (!) to help with vehicle probs, especially stuck in a ditch probs?! I've got 18&21 yr old sons and omg at how often the older one gets his truck stuck! he's never called a girl.

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Earlier in the beginning it was stated by the ex that she was following him in her vehicle in case his truck broke down. So that if he had to pull off the road she would see and pull in behind him. Now the initial reason for her going to help is his truck getting stuck. Why would she have to follow him in fear of his truck breaking down again when it wasn't broken down in the first place just stuck? Contradiction?
 
Sin said:
Earlier in the beginning it was stated by the ex that she was following him in her vehicle in case his truck broke down. So that if he had to pull off the road she would see and pull in behind him. Now the initial reason for her going to help is his truck getting stuck. Why would she have to follow him in fear of his truck breaking down again when it wasn't broken down in the first place just stuck? Contradiction?
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If asked, I imagine he would say that Charli must have misunderstood and told her sister his car was in a ditch. It might have been off the road with a mechanical problem. I haven't been able to see the back of her vehicle but did she have a tow package? I wouldn't use my SUV to pull someone out of a ditch for fear my bumper would pull off. If it needed to be towed, it would have made more sense to ask for a friend with a truck.
 
TxLady2 said:
Thanks for the transcript, Ransom. I agree with the dad, Mr. Scott, it wouldn't be wise to confront the ex b/f right now, if he is a typical father. Should the ex develop a sudden attitude and get nasty or something, I'm sure it would be very tempting to knock his block off.
I'm very concerned about the gloves and duct tape that was found. But like a previous poster said, it doesn't make sense to take her clothes off and leave them, yet tie her up with duct tape and dump her in the ocean. Why not discard those things in the water as well? Wonder if the items were found in the burned out car? I would think the gloves would burn and the duct tape would melt, but IDK. This is perplexing.
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Why leave duct tape rolls there at all? Take them home and put them in the trash. Who would notice or care, unless they have Charli's Blood or DNA on them. The clothes I could explain if they were just in her car. Maybe she changed into something she didn't want to ruin while working on a car. Whomever stole the car could have searched it and left whatever they pawed through on the ground.
 
I wonder if her clothing was put where it was to throw the police off? If she were killed someplace else ( maybe where the dog was found?) the perp was hoping by placing her clothes far away, her body would not be found ( and any evidence with it..)
Im trying to remember where the dog was found... was it past Hana? IIRC? If so, for anyone who has ever been on the "road to Hana", you will appreciate that what looks like a short treck is NOT... it is very slow, very wind-y, and takes a very long time. How does that add up with the time line? Would there be time for her to have gotten all that way in the time stated? Locals... any thoughts on that? ( my husband and son spend summers on Maui ( in Haiku ) but it has been a while since I joined them.. so I am a bit fuzzy on details..
 
Somebody went to a lot of trouble to scatter evidence in various locations and drop her dog off a long way from where her SUV was found.

Charli is 5'10" and 160 pounds. If someone murdered her, as I suspect, it would be challenging to move her body without the assistance of ropes or gravity. If I were searching for her, I would be looking at places where the road drops off. Unfortunately, there are many places along Hana Hwy that fit that desciption.

If she were dropped in the ocean, she would need to be weighted to stay down, as previously mentioned by Plumeria5.

MPD needs to get some cadaver dogs out there to assist in the search.
 
We don't know for sure that the gloves and duct tape are related to this case. Keep in mind that this area is frequented by hunters and fishermen, often camping for extended times. Both of those items could just be litter left behind by those groups. It doesn't sound good, but we don't know for sure they're related to the case. The family has described them as "possible evidence".
 
I just wanted to share some observations about Charli from her pictures. She has this cool retro-look about her, timeless I guess you would say. She was working 2 jobs to provide for herself and her unborn baby boy. Obviously from working at an art studio, she has creative talents. Those that know her say she is very giving and helpful, probably very trusting (which may have led to her demise), sweet, and kind. Had a bad day so needed to vent, "I am so sick of the scum of the earth hurting others, children and animals!!! (Ok, I feel a little better now. :blushing:)
 
Statiscally speaking. It doesn't look good for Carly and her baby still being alive either.
So sad. If he indeed do the deed, I hope he can be successfully prosecuted.
I definitely have a Scott Peterson feeling about this case.
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TxLady2 said:
Thanks for the transcript, Ransom. I agree with the dad, Mr. Scott, it wouldn't be wise to confront the ex b/f right now, if he is a typical father. Should the ex develop a sudden attitude and get nasty or something, I'm sure it would be very tempting to knock his block off.
I'm very concerned about the gloves and duct tape that was found. But like a previous poster said, it doesn't make sense to take her clothes off and leave them, yet tie her up with duct tape and dump her in the ocean. Why not discard those things in the water as well? Wonder if the items were found in the burned out car? I would think the gloves would burn and the duct tape would melt, but IDK. This is perplexing.
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Sunrisenow said:
Carly Scott Search Turns Up Duct Tape, Gloves As Worst Feared For Hawaii Woman

http://www./1138340/carly-scott-search-turns-up-duct-tape-gloves-as-worst-feared-for-hawaii-woman/
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Is this 'new' news? Didn't we read about duct tape being found earlier in the search as well? :waitasec:

MauiJen said:
We don't know for sure that the gloves and duct tape are related to this case. Keep in mind that this area is frequented by hunters and fishermen, often camping for extended times. Both of those items could just be litter left behind by those groups. It doesn't sound good, but we don't know for sure they're related to the case. The family has described them as "possible evidence".
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For what would hunters and fishermen use duct tape? (asking bc I really don't know)

MauiJen said:
Update on the ocean search from yesterday, copied from the Morey Inc FB page (they seem to be heading up the searches):

UPDATE: Ocean Search and Rescue 2/16/14. The Ocean S&R teams are just getting back all are safe and sound. (though one of the divers lost a Fin). They did a very thorough search from Keanae all the way to Maliko gulch. (See map for details) from free diving into the coastline and even walking the reef in some areas, going into caves and talking to local fisherman whom have been out all week that have not seen anything as of today, they followed the current lines as suggested and #findcharli was not located today.
They did however report some items of interest in the ridge lines in certain areas along the coast. Ground crews will be looking at those areas tomorrow. We will follow up once we get word on those items of interest tomorrow.

We want to say a special mahalo to Pablo, Juan, Joe, Bill and the rest of the crew out there today AWESOME JOB.... That ocean route can be checked off, unless new evidence shows something different.

All of that was done by volunteers - no professional / LE ocean search that I'm aware of, which honestly, as a local, really annoys me. It seems like everything that is being done so far is by volunteers in the community. It's almost as if LE is only investigating when they absolutely have to because the volunteers find something.
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bbm - any update on these items? What could they be? What exactly are ridge lines?
 
Elainera said:
Is this 'new' news? Didn't we read about duct tape being found earlier in the search as well? :waitasec:

MauiJen said:


For what would hunters and fishermen use duct tape? (asking bc I really don't know)



bbm - any update on these items? What could they be? What exactly are ridge lines?
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Here is what I came up with for ridgelines.

http://www.cavalrypilot.com/fm21-26/fig10-16.gif

"All terrain features are derived from a complex landmass known as a mountain or ridgeline (Figure 10*16). The term ridgeline is not interchangeable with the term ridge. A ridgeline is a line of high ground, usually with changes in elevation along its top and low ground on all sides from which a total of 10 natural or man*made terrain features are classified."
 
cebee said:
I wonder if her clothing was put where it was to throw the police off? If she were killed someplace else ( maybe where the dog was found?) the perp was hoping by placing her clothes far away, her body would not be found ( and any evidence with it..)
Im trying to remember where the dog was found... was it past Hana? IIRC? If so, for anyone who has ever been on the "road to Hana", you will appreciate that what looks like a short treck is NOT... it is very slow, very wind-y, and takes a very long time. How does that add up with the time line? Would there be time for her to have gotten all that way in the time stated? Locals... any thoughts on that? ( my husband and son spend summers on Maui ( in Haiku ) but it has been a while since I joined them.. so I am a bit fuzzy on details..
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It was before Hana at Nahiku Marketplace. The map as I know it is here:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=217392837830814032642.0004f27c34f418f269993&msa=0&ll=20.856245,-156.085854&spn=0.175492,0.338173
 
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