GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #1

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Kona is on the Big Island.

Sorry I shouldn't have capitalized the word. Up 'mauka' means the mountainside, or to go up the mountain. 'Makai' means oceanside. I live 'up mauka' from Kailua-Kona, about 5 miles up a long windy road. It is cool and subtropical here. You guys were mentioning that the Western sides of the islands aren't all that great, but a lot of people only see Kailua-Kona (only 39 sq miles) and think it's Kona but it's not. The Kona district extends from South Kona where Ocean View starts all the way to North Kona close to Waikoloa. The total sq miles of the island is approx 4,000 and Kona takes up almost 1/2. Our side is so much more than the little shopping village called Kailua that is way overpriced and so expensive to live in. We still have to shop there. There are so many really beautiful spots up mauka, like Honaunau, Kaloko, Kealakekua Bay, City of Refuge. <3
I enjoy a lot of the west and south of the Big Island. The petroglyphs are fantastic, City of Refuge is fascinating, kayaking with the dolphins on Kealakekua Bay, snorkeling at Captain Cook monument, the sheer power of the volcano as the molten lava cracks through the previous black crust and once again starts on it downhill journey, white sand beach, black sand beach, green sand beach. All good.
 
I enjoy a lot of the west and south of the Big Island. The petroglyphs are fantastic, City of Refuge is fascinating, kayaking with the dolphins on Kealakekua Bay, snorkeling at Captain Cook monument, the sheer power of the volcano as the molten lava cracks through the previous black crust and once again starts on it downhill journey, white sand beach, black sand beach, green sand beach. All good.

Okay, now I'm really homesick!

Grew up in San Diego and the Kona coast has always reminded me of my childhood. It's mainly the dry coastal landscape and vegetation that does it.

I've been visiting the Big Island for almost 40 years and even though the population has grown it's still a magical place for me.
 
http://www.mauinews.com/page/conten...tal-remains-discovered-in-Haiku.html?nav=5161

I guess I should stick up for Kailua Kona. I've lived right above town for over 30 yrs. Sterile, no-soul, too much money (can I get some)? Luckily there's a spot for everyone on the BI!

I'm happy anywhere in Hawai`i, but I just really, really love the East sides. I have friends in Pahoa (East Hawai`i Island) and Waikoloa, which is mauka on the Kona side. My last trip to the Big Island in 2012 was just a short trip, mainly for the Slack Key Festival, so I stayed in Keauhou and then visited my Waikoloa friends for a bit.

I wonder who this unfortunate camper is, if he is not one of the reported missing...
 
What keeps blowing the margins in this thread? The last page was blown but I couldn't see a reason why. Last night this page was fine and today the margins are blown and I can't see anything as to why that would be. Ugh!
 
I was thinking about the 'extra light tools' that Steven claimed to bring with him on the night of Feb 9th. I did a google search and came up with a screwdriver here: http://www.cleanitsupply.com/p-55342/stanley-tools-100-plus-extra-light-blade-cabinet-tip-screwdriver-18-4-long-bos66114.aspx There were a few other links for the same sort of thing.
Then I got to thinking, what if he meant something else or what if it was a slip for something he actually used that night? Ultra light tools? Ultralight tools? I did a google search and found camping equipment listed as 'ultralight tools.' Extreme campers and hikers want to pack extra or ultra light because of the degree of the task they are setting out to do, it is hard work, to conserve energy they need things to be as light as possible. One such website I came up with listed all sorts of equipment, including machetes and knives: http://www.gofastandlight.com/Tools/products/17/. There were a ton of websites and youtube videos discussing tools and knives all calling them 'ultralight or ultra light tools.' Interesting.
 
I was thinking about the 'extra light tools' that Steven claimed to bring with him on the night of Feb 9th. I did a google search and came up with a screwdriver here: http://www.cleanitsupply.com/p-55342/stanley-tools-100-plus-extra-light-blade-cabinet-tip-screwdriver-18-4-long-bos66114.aspx There were a few other links for the same sort of thing.
Then I got to thinking, what if he meant something else or what if it was a slip for something he actually used that night? Ultra light tools? Ultralight tools? I did a google search and found camping equipment listed as 'ultralight tools.' Extreme campers and hikers want to pack extra or ultra light because of the degree of the task they are setting out to do, it is hard work, to conserve energy they need things to be as light as possible. One such website I came up with listed all sorts of equipment, including machetes and knives: http://www.gofasta
ndlight.com/Tools/products/17/
. There were a ton of websites and youtube videos discussing tools and knives all calling them 'ultralight or ultra light tools.' Interesting.

Interesting delving. His phrasing is so odd to so many readers....you might be on to something. :footinmouth::detective:
 
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Agree. I just thought it was a creative way to interpret SC's awkward phrasing.

What about the possibility of a boat to take the bodies further out into the ocean? Can boats go ashore in that area without too much trouble? Is that a viable scenario?
 
Agree. I just thought it was a creative way to interpret SC's awkward phrasing.

What about the possibility of a boat to take the bodies further out into the ocean? Can boats go ashore in that area without too much trouble? Is that a viable scenario?
Not really. Not in winter. Summer maybe. Rocky shoreline. He could have paddled her out on a board or built a raft that would sink maybe with a car battery strapped to her ankles but they searched the water and the shoreline at the shore where the clothes were found.
 
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Not really. Not in winter. Summer maybe. Rocky shoreline. He could have paddled her out on a board or built a raft that would sink maybe with a car battery strapped to her ankles but they searched the water and the shoreline at the shore where the clothes were found.

So that scenario seems to be improbable at the least. Do you, or any other WS locals, think it more likely the bodies are on land or tossed into the ocean at another location?
 
Maui still grows cane sugar, and I'm sure there are plenty of abandoned fields. I don't think cane that's been grown for generations is just going to disappear, even if it isn't specifically cultivated. http://hcsugar.com/


This may have already been said, but sugar cane grows up to about 10 feet -- great way to hide pot plants if folks need to keep pot plants hidden... They're like big, big cornstalks. Anyway, just a thought...


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:floorlaugh:

So that scenario seems to be improbable at the least. Do you, or any other WS locals, think it more likely the bodies are on land or tossed into the ocean at another location?

Land. Water is to uncontrollable
 
Kind of ot but what the heck is going on with the margins in this thread? Haven't been able to read a thing for days...
 
Land. Water is to uncontrollable

I'm not going to completely rule out water just yet, but I agree that water is uncontrollable. Plus, it would be pitch dark at that time of night, and, as Peter mentioned, the shoreline is rocky. Who would want to take the chance of having the bodies wash up on shore a la Laci and Conor? Then again, SC doesn't strike me as being the sharpest knife in the drawer. And maybe there's an undersea cave.

BTW, I am not seeing a margin problem.
 
Are there cane fields in the Haiku to Hana area?
Have they been searched?
Also, are the lava tubes considered a burial site?
Are they too numerous or have they been checked?
All I have are questions.
 
Are there cane fields in the Haiku to Hana area?
Have they been searched?
Also, are the lava tubes considered a burial site?
Are they too numerous or have they been checked?
All I have are questions.

The cane fields are mostly in the opposite direction from Haiku, going toward Kahului. There are some on the road to Jaws.

The road to Jaws:
The road down to JAWS - Pe'ahi,Maui - YouTube

Going toward Hana, there's mostly thick rainforesty vegetation. When you look at the landscape anywhere in the area, you might think you are looking for a needle in a haystack, but like I posted before, moving dead weight is not easy. So I would suggest confining the searches to areas not too far off driveable roads and down into gulches and ravines where gravity would help. Also, have the landfills been checked?
 
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