GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #4

[DaleTray]

Apo -- but Your Honor, it's not faaair ... he's yelling objections, and I'm not allowed to approach, waaah .... "

Cardoza to Apo : "Quit standing there and talking to yourself and ask another question"

 

[DaleTray]

Amazing song, PT. I'm a forever fan of folk songs and folklore, but I had missed that one. There's a whole genre called Appalachian murder ballads. I did some looking around the web to see if anyone knew the history, and found a great article tracing its evolution from Elizabethan England -- old story indeed -- and a real murder, to Appalachia. And there is an American murder story that fits it very well.
http://www.planetslade.com/knoxville-girl.html
It's long but if you like this sort of thing it's worth reading, so I'll just link it for those who are interested. Also a powerful female-sung version from 2013: http://lixianhantover.bandcamp.com/track/knoxville-girl
Theory behind the popularity is that "the devil" is in all of us. The story is indeed of a guy who gets a girl pregnant, and is pressured to marry her by her father, and he snaps. They used to call these songs gallows ballads. They would print up all 45 verses on a broadsheet and I guess sing them under the gallows while the condemned man was hung, verses written in the style of a confession made in prison just before being taken to the gallows. This was a real thing!

[video=youtube;m6FNEOscBOU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6FNEOscBOU[/video]
Dave Matthews "Long Black Veil"

 

[DaleTray]

He drifts off into deep thinking quite often. I keep waiting for him to stand up and say I did it.

Sorry for delay. I spent yesterday watching days 1-6 of trial on You Tube. I have also been enthralled w SC facial expressions. " I can't believe I was stupid enough to think I could pull this off" " I can't believe I was stupid enough to think I could pull this off" " I thought I was smarter than this"
SC will probably have this same expression for yrs and
yrs in his jail cell. I bet OJ wore that same expression for a few years

 

[DaleTray]

He mentions getting the injury on his hand from trying to prop up the rear window with a dowel. (CC Trial Day 3 part 3 19:59)

And here's another nugget. CC Trial Day 4 part 5 14:00

"When I take my break, I just walk up to my truck on my break just to make sure it hasn't been broken into…not that it ever has been…"

LOL. Yeah. And he wants us to believe that he would have just left it on the side of the Hana Hwy near Keanae overnight Saturday and all day Sunday without even trying to fix it. Totally believable! :laugh:

The Nissan was unreliable enough that SC has a mechanic that often repairs the Nissan. The Nissan is so unreliable, in fact, that he normally keeps tools in his vehicle (But SC had just got his vehicle back from mechanic again and hadn't had time to put tools back in). So, SC supposedly "stalls out"....but SC was in hilly terrain w manual transmission. Clutch"pop" start your vehicle rather than leave on side if road for 24 hrs full of expensive radios and desirable Toyota parts. But...if you want to go back out there the next night to attempt to find the vehicle starting problem...and you don't carry a flashlight?

 

[Kapua]

SC's facebook has been tidied up. All the references to drinking and guns and knocking people up are gone. But I screenshot some of the key dates from way back when so I have my reference library.

But he hardly ever drinks! The only two times were when he got his DUI and the night he got Charli pregnant.

 

[Kapua]

The road to Hana is at times littered with junk cars being recycled by midnight auto enthusiasts.

MPD should've tricked out an old Toyota with a nice stereo, left one window down 1/2 inch and parked it on the side of Hana Hwy. in Keanae on a Saturday night.

 

[puakenikeni]

You guys are a hoot today. Thanks for chuckles.
So what was the deal with Steven sullenly saying he would only "help" if he got his stereo back? I seem to recall he said Adam had it? This was in spring of 2014, when he was free but the case was now a homicide? It was a bizarre ultimatum he gave.

 

[Kapua]

I transcribed the portion of the police interview with SC where he flip-flops between being "not thrilled" about the baby, to asking her to consider termination and adoption, to wanting to be "a part of its life" in the span of a week. And tries to deny having any contact with Charli in the early stages of her pregnancy.

YouTube Court Chatter Trial Day 3 Part 2 14: 38

Loo: So, when you guys hooked up, evidently 5 months ago, when did you find out she was hapai? (pregnant)

SC: Just recently. I think within the last month or two. And I had heard little whispers about it, but I wasn’t sure, because she stopped answering my calls. And uh, she stopped answering my calls because she was afraid of how I was going to react about the baby. But…admittedly I’m not, you know, thrilled about having a child. It’s not what I was planning on doing at 24. But, you know, I was starting to buckle down and get my **** together and trying to take care of some **** so I can take care of my child.

Loo: Um-hm.

SC: Um, from what I understand, she was 5 months pregnant, which would be right. Yeah it was really touch and go because we were both not sure what to do. She was sure she wanted the baby and I wasn’t sure at first, but I saw how happy it made her and… it made me happy so I was…It was growing on me.

Loo: When you found out, did you tell her at any time, “Charli, you gotta terminate this? Because I don’t want to be a dad, I don’t want, you know…

SC: I asked her to consider it, but I didn’t say it had to be. It’s her body and her choice. Like I said, I wasn’t thrilled about having a child, and my first reaction was hey, I’m NOT ready, but about a week later, I again I saw how happy she was, and if that’s what it takes to make her happy, I would have been all for it. I AM all for it.

Loo: Alright. When you guys were driving out to Hana, did you guys talk about anything?

SC: We talked about naming our baby.

Loo: Naming your baby? Was she happy?

SC: She seemed happy.

Loo: Because some women, when they get pregnant, they go through mood swings and stuff. You know hormonals kind of things…

SC: I’ve seen her do it, but this last ride seemed absolutely fine. You know, I’ve said a few things while she was pregnant that obviously upset her so I was trying to make a really big point of not upsetting her this time.

Loo: What did you say to upset her?

SC: Like I said, when she first told me about the baby, I asked her to consider terminating it. That kind of upset her, she didn’t talk to me for a week after that. Um, I threw out adoption at one point, just as an option, again, I wasn’t necessarily ready to have a child. And that upset her. But it was never like, angry or anything like that. It was just…

Loo: You never yelled at her, and tell her, you know, threatened her, you know, ‘you better get rid of this kid?’ Or any kind of stuff?

SC: No. Absolutely not. No, no no, Yeah, whenever I upset her it was usually just something that you know I was thinking and I just put it out there because that’s the kind of person I am like but I never said maliciously you have to get rid of it or you have to put it up for adoption because I’m not going to be a part of its life. I was completely ready to be part of this child’s life. And still am. Uh, I keep saying, she’s gone…uh can’t think like that.

Loo: No, don’t think like that. The thing is, was she on any medications, do you know of any health issues, any mental issues did she do any drugs, you gotta be honest with me because we got – we’re looking at every aspect.

SC. I absolutely understand. And to the best of my knowledge she wasn’t on any prescription medication from any doctor. The only medical condition she had is that she was pregnant. I’ve never seen her do any drugs, maybe smoke some weed every now and then, but who doesn’t? Um, drinking, she drank every once in a while but the moment she got pregnant, she stopped - apparently.

Loo: OK.

SC: I can’t really confirm that because I wasn’t there at first, but, uh, that’s what my friend Adam says and they hang out with her at least once a week, so…

Loo: OK.

 

[Mamamerced]

You guys are a hoot today. Thanks for chuckles.
So what was the deal with Steven sullenly saying he would only "help" if he got his stereo back? I seem to recall he said Adam had it? This was in spring of 2014, when he was free but the case was now a homicide? It was a bizarre ultimatum he gave.

Interesting, Pua. I have been thinking about that stereo bit also. Wasn't that when he taunted Kim on FB? His lack of empathy for anyone but himself is so evident.

 

[puakenikeni]

Yes, mama, that's how I remember it. At the time, I didn't know anything about the car stereo, but now we see what a huge deal it was to his world. But no one with empathy would put it in the same realm as a missing or murdered beloved pregnant woman. I remember one or more people telling him if he could help he needed to help, period.

Kapua, that is awesome. Big mahalos for the transcription.

 

[Kapua]

You guys are a hoot today. Thanks for chuckles.
So what was the deal with Steven sullenly saying he would only "help" if he got his stereo back? I seem to recall he said Adam had it? This was in spring of 2014, when he was free but the case was now a homicide? It was a bizarre ultimatum he gave.

I missed that! Wow... that's cold-blooded.

 

[Mamamerced]

Thanks for the transcription, Kapua. You are a dedicated sleuth.
Isn't SC just so darned reasonable, agreeable and eager to help in any way that he can? What a guy.

 

[Kapua]

Another nugget I picked up in the Trial Day 3 part 2 19:24

Loo: Why is her dog in Nahiku?

SC: I don’t know. Her dog never got out of the car at any point that I saw.

Yesterday RunDaSurf observed that no pregnant woman would be able to make the drive to Keanae and back without going shishi. Here SC wants us to believe that they never let the dog out to go shishi, either.

 

[Kapua]

Still re-listening to the Feb 12 police interview, YouTube Court Chatter Trial day 3 part 2 at 27:39

Officer: Was anybody harassing her?

Discussion regarding the guy who was caught using Charli’s shower (which was in a different building).

SC: Somebody said it was the landlord’s cousin for that house, but when we asked the landlord, he said “I don’t know who you’re talking about.”

Loo: Yeah, that’s what he said to us.

This proves that the police did follow up on at least one other lead!

 

[Mamamerced]

Still re-listening to the Feb 12 police interview, YouTube Court Chatter Trial day 3 part 2 at 27:39

Officer: Was anybody harassing her?

Discussion regarding the guy who was caught using Charli’s shower (which was in a different building).

SC: Somebody said it was the landlord’s cousin for that house, but when we asked the landlord, he said “I don’t know who you’re talking about.”

Loo: Yeah, that’s what he said to us.
This proves that the police did follow up on at least one other lead!

You have a legal eagle's eye, Kapua: I hope Rivera's team is checking out this thread for tidbits.

 

[heartgoesout]

Kapua, I wish you could take all these awesome notes that are huge tidbits to the prosecution. I've followed since day one and you're giving me AH HA! moments that are so critical to spell out for the jury.

 

[Kapua]

Kapua, I wish you could take all these awesome notes that are huge tidbits to the prosecution. I've followed since day one and you're giving me AH HA! moments that are so critical to spell out for the jury.

The defense team has had 2 years to review these tapes and this is their jobs, so hopefully, they are on it. They just need to focus and not get sloppy. There are so many contradictions and statements that make no sense at all... I haven't even scratched the surface. I just hope the men and women of the jury picked up some of that. There are 12 of them, so they can put their heads together. I'm sure the dog owners, pregnant women, and mothers are all thinking "Charli/Nala never got out of the car to go shishi?" I was just listening to the part where Officer Loo testifies that he saw SC with a device that looked like a cell phone when he greeted him, and SC tells him in the interview that he forgot his cell phone. Busted! Even though Loo backpedals a bit and says it was a "handheld device", I think that point was made.

 

[Mamamerced]

I took note of the cell phone, also, but assumed SC left it in his truck when he went in for the interview. If he's guilty (snicker) he'd know the risk of taking it into Loo's office.

 

[PeterTosh]

Today's Maui News has a good write up.

"Murder suspect Steven Capobianco acknowledged telling searchers looking for his pregnant ex-girlfriend that he had already checked a secluded East Maui bay where pieces of jawbone, clothing and clumps of red hair were later found.

In a recorded interview, which was played Tuesday for jurors in Capobianco's 2nd Circuit Court murder trial, police detectives asked Capobianco about helping family members search for Carly "Charli" Scott on Feb. 11, 2014, the day after her mother reported Scott missing.

Then-Detective William Gannon questioned Capobianco about searching along Hana Highway with one of Scott's sisters as it was getting dark.
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Defendant Steven Capobianco, who is facing second-degree murder charges in the death of Carly “Charli” Scott, appears Tuesday in his trial in 2nd Circuit Court.

"Coming up by Paraquats, you said, 'This area's all good. I checked it already,' '' Gannon said, asking Capobianco if he gave searchers the sense that they didn't need to go there.

"I guess so, yeah," Capobianco replied.

 

[heartgoesout]

Kapua, defense team or States Attorney?