HODGE-PODGE - LISK-related

[DQN]

I have a question, after this corrupt police cheif is now known to have been at parties. He may be in on it. As well as that dr Hackett. They are all in on it and what does twa800 flightt have to do with any of it? I thought i heard something on the show about it

Apparently Peter Hackett and James Burke first met during the TWA crash recovery. Then they became friends.

 

[deedee21]

A man was arrested in NJ. LE said hes a serial killer. Hes charged with three murders. They dont know how many victims yet.

 

[maddalena1]

Good to hear😚

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[marble]

A man was arrested in NJ. LE said hes a serial killer. Hes charged with three murders. They dont know how many victims yet.

Do you mean Khalil Wheeler-Weaver who was arrested some days ago, or someone else? http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2017/03/what_makes_a_serial_killer.html

Wheeler-Weaver is only 20, so he would have been too young to be responsible for any of the killings after around 2014 and even that's stretching it- a 16 year old most likely wouldn't be able to carry out the logistics required unless the murders were very close to where he lived.

Is this a different arrest? Do you have a link?
Thanks!

 

[Kellyd]

Do you mean Khalil Wheeler-Weaver who was arrested some days ago, or someone else? http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2017/03/what_makes_a_serial_killer.html

Wheeler-Weaver is only 20, so he would have been too young to be responsible for any of the killings after around 2014 and even that's stretching it- a 16 year old most likely wouldn't be able to carry out the logistics required unless the murders were very close to where he lived.

Is this a different arrest? Do you have a link?
Thanks!

Thanks marble, I was just going to ask the same thing. ;-)

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[deedee21]

Thanks marble, I was just going to ask the same thing. ;-)

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Yes, thats him. Today is the first time I saw him on the news.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Not really sure where to post this. But IMo it says a lot about the state of affairs on LI, as a whole.

https://www.longislandpress.com/2017/03/13/long-island-local-government-open-records-report-card/

Long Island Gets a ‘C’ in First-Ever Local Government Open Records Report Card

 

[DaisyChains]

http://pix11.com/2016/11/24/arrest-made-in-death-of-woman-found-behind-baldwin-building/

What ever became of this nut? Procured victim off of craigslist and then hammered her in the head to death b/c of a "payment dispute".

 

[Data67]

one theory I have is that maybe these girls were problems for someone. For example re: Shannon G. at one point, as we all know, AD broke SG's jaw, and in Lost Girls the author Kolker says she would try to not pay drivers sometimes. So MP maybe had a beef with her too. In Lost Girls many of the victims seemed like they were hustlers who would rob, cheat etc. anyone they could. I am not blaming them, but saying maybe they ticked off the same person or people.
I've also wondered, if someone in the sex industry in LI wanted someone dead, could it be they were sold off to a group of men that did that after they'd had their fun?
my gut says that somehow it was all of them, all the JB's, CPH, AD and MP etc.
I think that the people in Suffolk County who live that lifestyle of drugs and escorts and sex parties most likely know each other well and also know what to say to outside LE, and how to work the system, particularly since I believe old chief jb was involved..
well, thats as crackpot as you get...hope the truth is revealed one day.

 

[Data67]

sometimes I've thought LISK just happened to be there that night, visiting his trophies, when the shannon thing happened..what a stroke of luck that would have been for him that he just happened upon her..seems very very unlikely but possible.

 

[maddalena1]

I think he was there that night for sure but not visiting his trophies. Instead, he was trying to add another to his trophy garden but Shannan would not go easy. Shannan had/has the heart of a warrior.

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[DQN]

Check this out on Joe Giacalone's show http://joegiacalone.net/namus-advice-for-families-of-missing-persons/

[FONT=&quot]At the moment, funding for the DNA collection has run out. This effectively eliminated the free program for family members to have a DNA exemplar uploaded into the database. As you are aware, DNA is most often the identifying marker. Not only did this funding stop the free DNA program, but it also stopped the anthropological services outside of Texas.[/FONT]

 

[Vapor]

http://nypost.com/2017/04/02/inside-the-drug-and-sex-ring-in-the-middle-of-times-square/

 

[Vapor]

When i saw that brief video on the post piece it shows a guy with dreads offering drugs or sex.. wonder if its the same hoodlum with dreads who robbed maureen before she vanished.

 

[PictureSnatcher]

That is literally right where Melissa used to hang out you, see Lace at the end

 

[Vapor]

That is literally right where Melissa used to hang out you, see Lace at the end

Yea.. kolker wrote alot about melissa and her time spent right in that area. Even mentioning lace a few times. Someone knows something in that area and it definitely wouldnt surprise me if these girls were killed to set an example.. especially if they were still servicing the same clients after deciding to cut off their handlers. Did megan or amber ever work in the times square/Port authority area? Anyone recall?

 

[DQN]

Yea.. kolker wrote alot about melissa and her time spent right in that area. Even mentioning lace a few times. Someone knows something in that area and it definitely wouldnt surprise me if these girls were killed to set an example.. especially if they were still servicing the same clients after deciding to cut off their handlers. Did megan or amber ever work in the times square/Port authority area? Anyone recall?

The hoodlums are a dime a dozen over over they look for runaways coming in from Port Authority.

 

[DeDee]

The New Bedford killings happened the exact same time span when a Burke associate was in New Bedford. The exact same 6 months. There's more, but I don't want to compromise anything.

Stricoff had an interesting past few days. Hopefully that will be addressed.

I am not one who believes in coincidences.

They are clues. ~ Telluride Town Marshall and author, James Kolar

There are not that many killers to acct for the LISK murdered victims. Correct? In my common sense brain, it is difficult to gather together a nefarious group of men,doctors, LEO, political figures, and discover they murder their dates. On purpose. Then, dismember them. And secretly bury them along a stretch of highway known to them. How many participants, or likely suspects, are we talking about?

In my eyes, there is no valid evidentiary reason to omit SG from the list of LISK victims. Correct?
You're assuming that SK moved on to Bedford. The female residents need to be warned.

 

[PositiveLight]

Ok this may be totally off the wall. Follow me though and see if you can add to a possible theory I'm working on.
It hit me when I rewatched the People Investigates program today on ID.
I noticed the sign for Gilgo Beach and it had a reference to Babylon.

I just wonder if any others have been curious if this killer/killers are religious crazies.
When searching about Babylon I found this bible verse interesting:
"Genesis 11:9- Therefore was the name of it called Babel;
because Jehovah did there [a]confound the language of all the earth:
and from thence did Jehovah scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."
the word "scatter" caught my attention the most for obvious reasons.
There are many towns/cities etc. in NY alone that have biblical names.

I just get this deep feeling that the killer/killers feel the need to rid "the world" of prostitutes. They have a DEEP need to do this.
Some of the victims were known to be talked out of carrying their phones and personal items when they disappeared.
For street wise workers, this would be hard to accomplish. They know better. Yet, the killer did in fact pull it off. How?
Is it possible that this killer/killers were familiar with their victims? Perhaps someone pretending to be a person of strong faith?
Someone they would feel safe with. Maybe a priest or minister? Or at least pretending to be?
I'm currently looking into other cities that have possible similar cases with biblical names.
I'm not as well versed in the bible as others are. But isn't there a link between the bible and burlap? But it is called something else?
I really think there is more than one killer at work but they work together with a common goal. Each has their own ritualistic methods.
If this is the case, a male prostitute wouldn't be out of their range either.
I'm trying to figure out the psyche of the offenders. I just feel there is more to it than just being easy targets.
There is some insane cult groups out there as we all know. Especially religious cults.
Summer appears to be their time in NY.
Where do they go during other times of the year?
They don't just stop killing.
I may be wayyyyyy off but it struck me as odd when I saw the sign more clearly.
I do think the girls and guy had previously met this person/persons before and felt safe in their presence.

The West Mesa murders for example could be a link to another area the killer/s traveled to. Again most prostitutes.
West Mesa is in Valencia County, Albuquerque, NM. Also in this county is Belen- named after Bethlehem.

Daytona Beach Serial Killings of prostitutes- New Smyrna Beach- Smyrna

All different methods of killing. So not so sure about this route of thinking but it's super curious to me.

Is it possible that the change in method is to throw off putting together the different series of murders?

Could this killer/s be a type of "cleaner of sin?"
JMO and something that is bugging me at the moment.
What other groups of victims are out there similar to this?

I truly think this offender is familiar with their victims before they are with them the final time. They trust him.
:thinking:

 

[CaseCracker1]

A POI, the Dr, moved to Ft Myers, FL from Long Island. He moved to long Island in 1995, 1996 first victim there. Now, working girls are disappearing here.