Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #5 ***ARRESTS***

[SteveS]

So it may have been the mattress they cut away that was rolled up instead of carpet.

Not likely. What was seen has the appearance of a rolled up carpet or rug, and a mattress wouldn't fit that appearance.

It's possible that it maybe could have been some sort of a thick tarp that they used to encase some something-or-other, and then rolled things up inside the tarp. In fact, the object has a lumpy appearance as if one or more items are enclosed. But on the outside, it sure looks like a carpet/rug. It sure doesn't look like a mattress to me.

Anyone that wants can see the object and decide. It's in the video at the top of this page multiple times. http://www.wsmv.com/story/26581181/investigators-search-house-of-suspect-in-holly-bobo-case

Sounds like the home has hardwood floors instead of carpet.

"Hardwood floors" and "large area rugs" are not mutually exclusive, and in fact are a fairly common floor treatment combo. They could have rolled up and taken a large oriental or persian wool rug, for example.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Case Archive: "Justice for Holly"

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...ly Bobo -TN-/Justice for Holly?sort=6&page=1


There is some more about the search in Feb, and everything before that... in the main Case Archive:
(it was getting to be too large, so "justice" was added for the news after the arrests)

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/library/Holly Bobo -TN-?sort=6&page=1


Both archive sections are organized with latest-first.

 

[tlcya]

Investigators search house of suspect in Holly Bobo case for 3rd time

Investigators would not say what they were looking for this time around, but family members say authorities took shell casings and a piece of the mattress in the master bedroom and tore up a large part of the wood floor. They say the home is now unlivable.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/26581181/investigators-search-house-of-suspect-in-holly-bobo-case

So it may have been the mattress they cut away that was rolled up instead of carpet. Sounds like the home has hardwood floors instead of carpet.

Or carpet over hardwood floors with the carpet hiding evidence that had seeped into the wood flooring, hence carpeting was used to cover it. But whatever they are looking for and whatever they found, I worry about what a defense attorney is going to do with the fact that it remained undiscovered or unimportant enough to seize until a third search was performed of the property. Especially in light of the apparent thoroughness of the last round of searches there and how extensive a time LE had possession of the property in which to conduct those searches.

 

[MizStery]

Notice roll of carpet being removed by LE during search of ZA's home on Adams lane yesterday; <39 seconds into video>


TBI: Brother of Zach Adams arrested in connection to Holly Bobo case
http://www.wsmv.com/story/26569627/tbi-brother-of-zach-adams-arrested-in-connection-to-bobo-case

BBM: Wow ... a roll of carpet !

I wonder WHAT they found ? Blood evidence, hair, fibers , dna ?

:seeya: Thanks, Foxfire, for this update !

Does it seem peculiar to anyone else that the carpet was not removed initially? I would assume investigators would routinely remove carpet in the execution of a top bottom search of a suspect's home.Wouldn't they want to know if there was any incriminating evidence underneath? Especially a murder suspect under arrest in a high profile murder investigation? MOO

Or carpet over hardwood floors with the carpet hiding evidence that had seeped into the wood flooring, hence carpeting was used to cover it. But whatever they are looking for and whatever they found, I worry about what a defense attorney is going to do with the fact that it remained undiscovered or unimportant enough to seize until a third search was performed of the property. Especially in light of the apparent thoroughness of the last round of searches there and how extensive a time LE had possession of the property in which to conduct those searches.

:thud:

 

[OldSteve]

Does it seem peculiar to anyone else that the carpet was not removed initially? I would assume investigators would routinely remove carpet in the execution of a top bottom search of a suspect's home.Wouldn't they want to know if there was any incriminating evidence underneath? Especially a murder suspect under arrest in a high profile murder investigation? MOO

Yes, it does sound odd - but could be the search warrant back then did not include carpet, and the warrant only allowed certain things to be looked for.... now after finding Holly they were able to get a new warrant with less or no restrictions... just my guess...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Or carpet over hardwood floors with the carpet hiding evidence that had seeped into the wood flooring, hence carpeting was used to cover it. But whatever they are looking for and whatever they found, I worry about what a defense attorney is going to do with the fact that it remained undiscovered or unimportant enough to seize until a third search was performed of the property. Especially in light of the apparent thoroughness of the last round of searches there and how extensive a time LE had possession of the property in which to conduct those searches.

I looked closely at the long object again in the video that is wrapped up and imo it is planks of hardwood. It looks to be like several long hardwood planks. Maybe up to ten or more. So I think it is sections of the hardwood plank inside of the home and most likely from the bedroom where they took part of the mattress. Imo, that is why the grandfather said hardwood was taken and why he didn't mention carpet or an area rug.

It will be interesting to see where the shell casings were located. Maybe they had rolled under the bed and Adams didn't realize it. I have a feeling when Adams was living in the home it was a pig sty anyway. I cant see some strung out meth head being clean and tidy.

So imo, the main crime scene is going to be located in Zach's bedroom. Since the lady testified saying that Holly was tied up and crying in the video, I wonder if she will be able to recognize Zach's bedroom if shown a photo during the trial? Also I wonder if they first took the headboard to his bed in the last SW and it showed scuff marks from Holly struggling trying to free herself?

We don't know what the SW allowed them to take last time. SWs have to be somewhat specific based on information they have at the time.

No doubt the defense is going to try anything they can. They are in an uphill battle already but I don't think it will go anywhere. All the lead detective has to do is testify that additional specific information became known to them and that is why they went back looking for the particular items that were taken in the latest SW. I am sure the house has been closed up since Adams has been in jail.

They will not be able to refute any of the evidence taken if any of it comes back connected to Holly or Holly's DNA.

Forensic evidence has no biases. It doesn't take sides. It is what it is and if it pertains to Holly then there is no way for them to refute it.

As DA Stowe has already said 'the evidence is voluminous' and IMO this SW will result in even more solid evidence against Zach Adams.

I have always felt the TBI had compiled a huge amount of evidence against the accused even before Holly's remains were found.

So I don't have any doubts that they have a vast amount of evidence to prove guilt and probably beyond all doubt even though BARD is only required. These two are going to be convicted and they will get the death penalty. JMO

DA Stowe exudes confidence in this case. He knows he's got 'em (ZA&JA) and Holly and the Bobo family will receive justice.

While it will not surprise me, I imagine it will be shocking to some just how much evidence they truly have in this case.

Yes, they are playing the case close to their vest, but then I have rarely seen any case where all the evidence was known or even part of it before trial.

Once Dylan testifies as to what all was done to Holly before she was murdered, I think the jury will wish the death penalty could be carried out immediately... instead of years.

Just my opinion though.

 

[Ruby]

Case Archive: "Justice for Holly"

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...ly Bobo -TN-/Justice for Holly?sort=6&page=1


There is some more about the search in Feb, and everything before that... in the main Case Archive:
(it was getting to be too large, so "justice" was added for the news after the arrests)

http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/library/Holly Bobo -TN-?sort=6&page=1


Both archive sections are organized with latest-first.

Thank You AmandaReckonwith for all that you do with all the different cases here on Websleuths.

:applause:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Yes, it does sound odd - but could be the search warrant back then did not include carpet, and the warrant only allowed certain things to be looked for.... now after finding Holly they were able to get a new warrant with less or no restrictions... just my guess...

:seeya: Hi OS !

BBM: Exactly ... that is what I was thinking also -- that the 1st warrant maybe have listed only specific items, but now that Holly's remains have been found, they were able to get a warrant with no limitations.

Now this is JMO but the first search of ZA's house and property seemed to be more focused on the outside of the house -- the land -- not as much the inside ... Yes, they searched the inside ZA's house ... but IMO, it seemed like the focus was outside with the tents setup, remember the vehicle with the "bullet holes" ...

And is it possible that someone is "talking" so they are going in and really ripping up the house this time so they did not miss a thing ?

JMO and :moo:

 

[Lanesmommy]

&#8220;Tell my brother he is the one who started this (expletive) and if he don't shut his mouth, he will be in the hole beside her,&#8221; Zachary R. Adams.

Let&#8217;s examine this in light of the discovery of HB&#8217;s skull and possible other remains.

When this statement first surfaced, many, including me, immediately thought, &#8220;well.&#8221; I think so did LE and they dug up wells in their Adams&#8217; property search.

But, one cannot easily put another beside a body already in a well. Maybe on top, but not beside.

So I pulled up a topo map of the County Corner Road area. As I suspected, the land drops fairly sharply from the I-40/County Corner Road area in the northerly direction. And the ginseng guys spoke of the skull being found in a clearing at the base of a ravine. All of a sudden, EUREKA!

&#8220;The hole&#8221; is a term Zach would use to describe the land area at the base of the ravine. It is surrounded on three sides by steep up-slopes and when down &#8220;in it&#8221; I bet you do feel like you are in a hole.

If this is plausible, I think HB was put where she was found soon after she was killed. Not dumped in a well and then somehow retrieved and taken elsewhere. ZA and JA knew this area well, and knew that &#8220;the hole&#8221; would likely be a safe place to dispose.

I am attaching a topo map of the area. I have drawn an arrow where I think &#8220;the hole&#8221; is.

This is a hole that a brother's body could be placed beside Holly's.

View attachment 59371

Great post. Would the point of he arrow be directly north from the cell tower? I wasnt sure where the tower would be located in connection with the arrow... Any help appreciated thanks! Great find btw litig8ter!!

 

[Litig8ter]

Great post. Would the point of he arrow be directly north from the cell tower? I wasnt sure where the tower would be located in connection with the arrow... Any help appreciated thanks! Great find btw litig8ter!!

It is north northeast a few degrees from the cell tower, and right at 280 to 300 yards off of County Corner Road using the Ruler tool in Google Earth. The cell tower is on the high spot just below the "m" in Inman Ridge. Although I didn't measure for this, my eyeball guess is that the flat area of what I think is the "hole" is probably about a half-acre as referred to in MSM reports as the search area around the find.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Wow!

another arrest... ZA's brother, DA...

and another search of the inside of the Adams family home...

shell casings, piece of mattress, and large chunk of wood flooring...

:cop:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

http://www.wsmv.com/story/26569627/tbi-brother-of-zach-adams-arrested-in-connection-to-bobo-case

Quote: "The TBI said in a statement that Dylan Adams 'disposed of items he knew to be of evidentiary value to the case' on the day that Bobo went missing."

I am so curious (as I know all you WSers are) as to what items he knew to be of evidentiary value DA disposed of....

and... It is interesting that LE knows he disposed of them

on the day Holly went missing...

:waitasec:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Forgive me if this has been posted on this thread... But I found it on "Holly Bobo's Remains Found" thread...

http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/new...In-Holly-Bobo-Murder-275645241.html?lc=Tablet

Quote: "Officials said they found evidence that 26-year-old John Dylan Adams disposed of evidence on April 13, 2011, the day Bobo went missing from her family home in Darden. Investigators said John Adams knew the un identified items could be evidence in the Bobo case."

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Again... I am wondering just what this evidence DA disposed of could be....

And how LE knew it was disposed of on that day?

:detective:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Wow!

another arrest... ZA's brother, DA...

and another search of the inside of the Adams family home...

shell casings, piece of mattress, and large chunk of wood flooring...

:cop:

:seeya: Hi, IHNC !

Yes, another arrest in Holly's case, which now brings the total to 5, with 1 "immunity deal" still up in the air.

Unbelievable !

Oh, and the total number of searches at ZA's property is up to 3 !

lease: Justice for Holly !

 

[JudyBolton]

Forgive me if this has been posted on this thread... But I found it on "Holly Bobo's Remains Found" thread...

http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/new...In-Holly-Bobo-Murder-275645241.html?lc=Tablet

Quote: "Officials said they found evidence that 26-year-old John Dylan Adams disposed of evidence on April 13, 2011, the day Bobo went missing from her family home in Darden. Investigators said John Adams knew the un identified items could be evidence in the Bobo case."

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Again... I am wondering just what this evidence DA disposed of could be....

And how LE knew it was disposed of on that day?

:detective:

Just a guess but I think someone must be talking....

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Forgive me if this has been posted on this thread... But I found it on "Holly Bobo's Remains Found" thread...

http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/new...In-Holly-Bobo-Murder-275645241.html?lc=Tablet

Quote: "Officials said they found evidence that 26-year-old John Dylan Adams disposed of evidence on April 13, 2011, the day Bobo went missing from her family home in Darden. Investigators said John Adams knew the un identified items could be evidence in the Bobo case."

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Again... I am wondering just what this evidence DA disposed of could be....

And how LE knew it was disposed of on that day?

:detective:

BBM: Just taking "wild guesses" here :

Could it have been some type of clothing, jewelry, shoes ?

Could it have been something in her school bag as she was on her way to school ?

Could it have been something in her purse ?


TBI/LE has shared very little in this case ... and we probably won't know anything until trial ...

Frustrating, yes ... but IF it helps bring ALL of the perps to :jail: then worth the wait !

:moo:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Bringing this over from the Court Case Thread:


From WKRN:

Dylan Adams was booked into the Madison County jail in Jackson where he is being held without bond.

He is tentatively scheduled to appear in court in Decatur County at 9 a.m. on Monday.


Monday - September 22, 2014 - 9:00 am


Link: http://www.wkrn.com/story/26569499/z...olly-bobo-case


IF this changes and/or is postponed, will update !

TIA !

 

[OldSteve]

BBM: Just taking "wild guesses" here :

Could it have been some type of clothing, jewelry, shoes ?

Could it have been something in her school bag as she was on her way to school ?

Could it have been something in her purse ?


TBI/LE has shared very little in this case ... and we probably won't know anything until trial ...

Frustrating, yes ... but IF it helps bring ALL of the perps to :jail: then worth the wait !

:moo:

:seeya: Enjoy your posts dog.gone.cute....
as to BBM - I wonder if there will be a trial..... with all that's going on, my thinking is the DA will offer plea deals of some sort ...

 

[Litig8ter]

I wonder if there will be a trial..... with all that's going on, my thinking is the DA will offer plea deals of some sort ...

The new DA is not likely to plea those that were actually involved in any torture and the ultimate murder. I suspect he now has solid forensic evidence to back up what he is being told by Dylan. A trial would serve as a catharsis for the community, and would serve to validate him as well.

Only if his proof is shaky as to one or more of the defendants would he consider a plea, IMO.

And there almost certainly will be a seperate trial for each charged with something.

 

[MizStery]

• February 28, 2014: A search warrant was executed at Zachary Adams' home in Decatur County. Zach Adams has a long history of arrests.
• March 2, 2014: Search continues at Adams' house in connection with Bobo case.

March 5, 2014: The TBI announces during a news conference that a special session of the Decatur County Grand Jury indicted Zach Adams on felony first degree murder and especially aggravated kidnapping charges in Bobo's case.

• May 29, 2014: Half-brothers Jeffrey and Mark Pearcy are charged with tampering with evidence and accessory after the fact. TBI investigators believe they have knowledge of a video containing images of Bobo alive after her abduction. A judge also denies to issue a gag order in the Holly Bobo case.
• July 29,2014http://wkrn.com/story/26140416/man-charged-in-connection-to-holly-bobo-case-due-in-court-Tuesda
  A spokesperson for the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation says the agency has seized several phones including Pearcy's and is currently waiting for an access code from Apple to get access to his phone. They have not seen the video just yet but believe it's on one of the phones they confiscated.

:sigh:Given this was likely a brutal crime,I am frustrated that it took from Feb 28 until just recently (3rd search of his property)to examine the flooring/interior and bedding/contents of person of interest/suspect Zack's home?

OK,then there is the Pearsy's. It was reported on July 29 ,"TBI were only awaiting access codes on Pearcy's confiscated phones". We do not know what if any evidence were on the phones but even prior to that, there was 'talk' of a likely brutal crime scene.(I am being vague on purpose,it has been discussed ad nauseam )I do not think it is too much of a 'leap' using our deductive skills to have pursued a warrant back in that time frame for a top down search of Zack's home at the time of Holly's kidnapping.
Perhaps it is time I take a break. I am a detail person and that is why I am so frustrated.MOO