Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #5 ***ARRESTS***

[Jo in Calif]

:seeya: Hi Foxfire !

I was wondering the same thing about ZA's recent transfer ... I even went back and checked where ZA was, and which facility he was transferred to.

:waitasec: You need a map of Tennessee to keep track of who is in which jail ... lol !

And jumping off your post here :

- Finally, Holly's remains are finally found ...

- Then one week later, ZA is transferred to another facility ...

- And then a few days later, ZA's brother DA is arrested for destroying evidence ...

Coincidence ?

I just do not think so !

:moo:

He was not arrested for destroying evidence, he was arrested for this.

"disposed of items he knew to be of evidentiary value to the case" on the day that Bobo went missing.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

He was not arrested for destroying evidence, he was arrested for this.

"disposed of items he knew to be of evidentiary value to the case" on the day that Bobo went missing.

:facepalm: Oops ... I'll go back and fix my post.

I'm watching Project Runway and posting on WS at the same time.

:seeya: THANKS, Jo.


EDIT:

I went back and checked what was reported in media:


Jordan Buie @JordanBuie · 1h

Zach Adams' brother told tbi agent he tampered with evidence on the day Holly disappeared http://goo.gl/Gq7lom


Chris Conte @chrisconte · 2h

#BREAKING #HollyBobo news. Zach Adams brother John Dylan Adams just charged with destroying evidence back in 2011

 

[Saccas85]

Has anyone heard anything more about the TBI searching the Adams property again tonight?

 

[OldSteve]

It's a strange thing - the more people they throw in jail, the less confident I am about there really being sufficient evidence to convict someone for murdering Holly...
Okay, you are welcome to disagree, and you might be right - but it's just the feeling I get as things go on, and on, and on...

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From WKRN:

Zachary Adams' brother, Dylan Adams, arrested in Holly Bobo case


The TBI and the Decatur County District Attorney Matt Stowe were present at the Adams home Thursday evening as they continue their investigation.

In response to the new developments in the Holly Bobo case, the District Attorney Office released the following statement:

“On behalf of the District Attorney's Office, please know we are all fighting tirelessly to bring all of Holly's murderers to justice. Now is the time for us to act, not talk. We will provide additional information in conjunction with the TBI at the appropriate time.”


Link:

http://www.wkrn.com/story/26569499/zachary-adams-brother-arrested-in-holly-bobo-case

 

[dog.gone.cute]

From WKRN:

Zachary Adams' brother, Dylan Adams, arrested in Holly Bobo case


Pastor Franks spoke with them Thursday after the TBI arrested Dylan Adams.

"Today's development just proves how determined that law enforcement is to find everyone who is involved in this case," he said.

The pastor of Corinth Baptist Church in Darden is a pillar of strength for the Bobo family.

"Events like that don't just come together without divine intervention and we believe this is an answered prayer," he said.

Pastor Franks said now the focus has shifted to finding justice.

He added that a funeral for Bobo will be held sometime in the near future.


Link:

http://www.wkrn.com/story/26569499/zachary-adams-brother-arrested-in-holly-bobo-case

 

[Little Jedi]

Has anyone heard anything more about the TBI searching the Adams property again tonight?

Yeah !
Apparently they removed a large rolled-up carpet.

Not sure but I think a news clip was shown on 'Channel 4' ?

*RUMOUR - A 'local' saw who s/he believes was ZA (or possibility DA) there !!
Weren't close enough to be sure but said whoever was wearing 'navy blue uniform'

 

[Mr. Noatak]

There have been tips and searches with little or no information by MSN or LE. I will list just two that always made me wonder if indeed there was someone generating tips or leads to planted articles of evidence.MOO

On Easter 2011 a tip was called in that generated a search which produced something significant. There is no MSN link that identifies what the item(s) were.

2nd of particular interest to me was an article published on website WMCTC;unfortunately the link no longer works.

Sheriff: evidence found in Holly Bobo disappearance


Reinforcements have been called in to search for Holly Bobo. Investigators on horseback spent the weekend looking for the missing Mid-South nursing student.


The search happened over a three day period over the weekend with help from a sheriff in Alabama. His mounted unit was part of what neighbors said was a very large search.

The renewed search for Bobo, who's been missing since April, happened over the weekend in Decatur County, not too far from Holly Bobo's home in Darden.


People who work at Dottie's Convenience store say there were at least 100 people searching and many of them were on horseback.


"We was asking if they were here searching and they said they couldn't disclose that information and stuff and they wouldn't really tell us much," said Kayla Hatley, a clerk at the store.


However, Hatley said one person finally did confirm that the search was for Holly Bobo.


"One mounted unit came from DeKalb County, AL, and the sheriff wrote a news release saying that they discovered "significant articles of evidence."


The sheriff wouldn't say what those items were and neither would the TBI.



<snipped>
Link no longer works
http://www.wmctv.com/story/17031447/she ... appearance

:sigh: Maybe we are getting closer to answers. MOO

My opinions only, no facts here:

The things you are referring to are covered in my timeline at http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...amp-TiMeLiNe-only!-*NO-DISCUSSION*/page9page9 [posts 215-216]

In your latter example, it sounds like you are referring to this entry in my timeline:

"FEB 25 to 26 or ?FEB 27 to 28?, 2012

I have seen this story here and there, but cannot confirm the exact date or dates but since it was ‘over the weekend’, the 25th to 26th may be closest. ?There may have been a search for Holly Bobo in the area of Yellow Springs to Bible Hill ?. (These may be the names of local roads and/or unincorporated communities). (?Both the TBI and volunteers may have been involved in this search?). I have seen a mention of mounted deputies. (?It was claimed that evidence was found? I have seen a possibly-local poster who said ?a sales receipt was found?). (?A spokesman for the TBI states that no new evidence was found?). I am inclined to conclude that the TBI organized this search and nothing of consequence was discovered. Anyway, BEWARE of rumors that a body was found on Bible Hill Road during this search; in my opinion this is the specific search where this bizarre internet rumor surfaced (readers can easily research the claimed source of this odd rumor for themselves). However, I am personally still curious if ATV trails in the Bible Hill area were searched with bloodhounds or cadaver dogs."

In my personal judgment, nothing was found during this search.

Sleuth On!

 

[shefner]

I know sometimes things get testy here...we all have different ideas and theories. Sometimes I have several different theories in one day! But doesn't it make you feel good to see these developments? This is why we are here! We are all on the same team...Holly's team.

 

[Mr. Noatak]

My opinions only, no facts here:

Now, we have the revelation that the main suspect's younger brother may have been released from a long prison term (did this really happen?) after implicating his older brother in the Holly Bobo kidnapping. But wait! Now the younger brother is under re-arrest for illegal disposition of evidence in 2011. It sounds like the honeymoon is over between him and the authorities. The implication to me is that the younger brother is no longer standing by his earlier claims and is now fair game.

In a prominent criminal case mystery, it is NOT AT ALL unusual for uninvolved people seeking attention or power or benevolent legal considerations to claim responsibility to their friends or directly to authorities. Further complicating the issue is the somewhat generously-termed $250,000 reward in this case, which some locals may have wanted to take a shot at. It is critical that authorities do not allow themselves to be dragged into any he-said, they-said, she-said maze of "fantasmical" proportions.

Just counting here: main suspect, second suspect (the big guy), the un-indicted co-conspirator (the man who could not find the body), the two new brothers (the cell-phone video guys), the female material witness, and the main suspect's younger brother. This adds up to seven people who supposedly managed to elude (or not talk to) authorities for three or more years. Even the Mafia would give a firm nod of approval to such apparent long-term group loyalty and individual stoicism from people who are being paraded publicly as loose-cannons or worse.

This case is crying out to be simplified. My hunch is that the authorities are hoping that they can convince one of the arrested/charged individuals to plead guilty to something relevant, so they can then use them as a linchpin for the remaining criminal charges against the others.

This doesn't sound like Perry Mason, Columbo, or Sherlock Holmes, does it? This is far more fuzzy and unsatisfying.

But ask yourselves, who is the credible prosecution witness here; the one person who would be untouchable under cross-examination in a jury trial?

Sleuth On!

 

[Bali]

It's a strange thing - the more people they throw in jail, the less confident I am about there really being sufficient evidence to convict someone for murdering Holly...
Okay, you are welcome to disagree, and you might be right - but it's just the feeling I get as things go on, and on, and on...

You're not alone brother. Strangest effing case I've ever seen. I've never seen a case with real evidence played so close to the vest and I simply cannot imagine a criminal conspiracy with so many people. I mean, outside of an organized crime ring, which these guys are not a part of. I hope they've got a case, but I'm really not seeing it.

 

[Bali]

My opinions only, no facts here:

Now, we have the revelation that the main suspect's younger brother may have been released from a long prison term (did this really happen?) after implicating his older brother in the Holly Bobo kidnapping. But wait! Now the younger brother is under re-arrest for illegal disposition of evidence in 2011. It sounds like the honeymoon is over between him and the authorities. The implication to me is that the younger brother is no longer standing by his earlier claims and is now fair game.

In a prominent criminal case mystery, it is NOT AT ALL unusual for uninvolved people seeking attention or power or benevolent legal considerations to claim responsibility to their friends or directly to authorities. Further complicating the issue is the somewhat generously-termed $250,000 reward in this case, which some locals may have wanted to take a shot at. It is critical that authorities do not allow themselves to be dragged into any he-said, they-said, she-said maze of "fantasmical" proportions.

Just counting here: main suspect, second suspect (the big guy), the un-indicted co-conspirator (the man who could not find the body), the two new brothers (the cell-phone video guys), the female material witness, and the main suspect's younger brother. This adds up to seven people who supposedly managed to elude (or not talk to) authorities for three or more years. Even the Mafia would give a firm nod of approval to such apparent long-term group loyalty and individual stoicism from people who are being paraded publicly as loose-cannons or worse.

This case is crying out to be simplified. My hunch is that the authorities are hoping that they can convince one of the arrested/charged individuals to plead guilty to something relevant, so they can then use them as a linchpin for the remaining criminal charges against the others.

This doesn't sound like Perry Mason, Columbo, or Sherlock Holmes, does it? This is far more fuzzy and unsatisfying.

But ask yourselves, who is the credible prosecution witness here; the one person who would be untouchable under cross-examination in a jury trial?

Sleuth On!

^I think they're trying to bluff them into pleading guilty and testifying against each other. I'll believe there's physical evidence when I see it.

 

[MizStery]

My opinions only, no facts here:

The things you are referring to are covered in my timeline at http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...amp-TiMeLiNe-only!-*NO-DISCUSSION*/page9page9 [posts 215-216]

In your latter example, it sounds like you are referring to this entry in my timeline:

"FEB 25 to 26 or ?FEB 27 to 28?, 2012

I have seen this story here and there, but cannot confirm the exact date or dates but since it was &#8216;over the weekend&#8217;, the 25th to 26th may be closest. ?There may have been a search for Holly Bobo in the area of Yellow Springs to Bible Hill ?. (These may be the names of local roads and/or unincorporated communities). (?Both the TBI and volunteers may have been involved in this search?). I have seen a mention of mounted deputies. (?It was claimed that evidence was found? I have seen a possibly-local poster who said ?a sales receipt was found?). (?A spokesman for the TBI states that no new evidence was found?). I am inclined to conclude that the TBI organized this search and nothing of consequence was discovered. Anyway, BEWARE of rumors that a body was found on Bible Hill Road during this search; in my opinion this is the specific search where this bizarre internet rumor surfaced (readers can easily research the claimed source of this odd rumor for themselves). However, I am personally still curious if ATV trails in the Bible Hill area were searched with bloodhounds or cadaver dogs."

In my personal judgment, nothing was found during this search.

Sleuth On!

Thank-you Mr. Noatak. I was careful to use a MSN when discussing this topic.I will only add Websleuths poster shefner earlier in the thread asked an excellent question about the Prospect Cemetery (located near Bible Hill)and a possible vehicle sighting. Oh yes,I remember the discussions well. But,there were no further MSN links & our discussion was limited.

In addition,Prospect Cemetery is the point on the ping map of a 15 min stop claimed by the discredited private investigators hired by the Bobo's.

I always wondered if this search "over the weekend' (approximately Feb 25 )was generated by either a phone tip or planted evidence like the Easter phone tip. That was a massive professionally organized search of Yellow Springs to Bible Hill according to MSN. Oh well,I have a lot of questions & this is just one of many.

:sigh: I guess shefner and I have to wait until trial to get answers. MOO

 

[Foxfire]

Notice roll of carpet being removed by LE during search of ZA's home on Adams lane yesterday; <39 seconds into video>


TBI: Brother of Zach Adams arrested in connection to Holly Bobo case
http://www.wsmv.com/story/26569627/tbi-brother-of-zach-adams-arrested-in-connection-to-bobo-case

 

[sophiebelle]

So the mother says Dylan was in protective custody, she thought. So was this because of ZA's threats that "he was going to end up in a hole right beside her"? IF he was in protective custody, was it this or fear from the community? Both?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

WOW ...

This update just on WSMV:


The TBI is back at the Adams' family home and has a vehicle parked in the driveway along with several other unmarked cars. There is no word on what they're searching for.


Cindy Adams, mother of Dylan and Zachary Adams, spoke about the latest developments:

"To my knowledge, my son was released from jail on all criminal charges on Aug. 13 and was in protective custody of the TBI as a state witness. We have not been contacted by the authorities. ..."


More at Link:

http://www.wsmv.com/story/26569627/tbi-brother-of-zach-adams-arrested-in-connection-to-bobo-case

If they are back searching the Adams home and property they are out searching for what Dylan told them he disposed of, imo.

 

[Bali]

My opinions only, no facts here:

Now, we have the revelation that the main suspect's younger brother may have been released from a long prison term (did this really happen?) after implicating his older brother in the Holly Bobo kidnapping. But wait! Now the younger brother is under re-arrest for illegal disposition of evidence in 2011. It sounds like the honeymoon is over between him and the authorities. The implication to me is that the younger brother is no longer standing by his earlier claims and is now fair game.

In a prominent criminal case mystery, it is NOT AT ALL unusual for uninvolved people seeking attention or power or benevolent legal considerations to claim responsibility to their friends or directly to authorities. Further complicating the issue is the somewhat generously-termed $250,000 reward in this case, which some locals may have wanted to take a shot at. It is critical that authorities do not allow themselves to be dragged into any he-said, they-said, she-said maze of "fantasmical" proportions.

Just counting here: main suspect, second suspect (the big guy), the un-indicted co-conspirator (the man who could not find the body), the two new brothers (the cell-phone video guys), the female material witness, and the main suspect's younger brother. This adds up to seven people who supposedly managed to elude (or not talk to) authorities for three or more years. Even the Mafia would give a firm nod of approval to such apparent long-term group loyalty and individual stoicism from people who are being paraded publicly as loose-cannons or worse.

This case is crying out to be simplified. My hunch is that the authorities are hoping that they can convince one of the arrested/charged individuals to plead guilty to something relevant, so they can then use them as a linchpin for the remaining criminal charges against the others.

This doesn't sound like Perry Mason, Columbo, or Sherlock Holmes, does it? This is far more fuzzy and unsatisfying.

But ask yourselves, who is the credible prosecution witness here; the one person who would be untouchable under cross-examination in a jury trial?

Sleuth On!

I'm with you. The case just keeps getting stranger and more muddled. I have my doubts that such a big group (which allegedly includes even more people) could keep this quiet for so long. Particularly with the big reward offered.

 

[OldSteve]

^I think they're trying to bluff them into pleading guilty and testifying against each other. I'll believe there's physical evidence when I see it.

Yes! Imagine they all plead guilty to something and take plea deals and none of it goes before a jury! Would be most convenient.

 

[OldSteve]

I'm with you. The case just keeps getting stranger and more muddled. I have my doubts that such a big group (which allegedly includes even more people) could keep this quiet for so long. Particularly with the big reward offered.

Not only their keeping quite, but as often seen in cases, things get mentioned (boasting) to girlfriend(s) who if/when scorned go to LE...

 

[Dogface]

Just to play devils advocate, I don't think an addict is going to snitch out their dealer IMO.