IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #25

[tlcya]

I hope we haven't frightened him off...

:cry:

I suspect he is having a hard time ignoring our questions and yet wants to wait to be verified before answering. Either that or all our conversations about dinner got his belly rumbling.

 

[tlcya]

Well, his appearance here sure did liven up a slow day onthread and throw some whole new enticing possibilities our way.

Maybe we will finally, at long last, have some info from a horse's mouth in this case.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I feel like a donkey that can't quite reach the carrot....

 

[Marilynilpa]

otto, will you have time for one of your wonderful maps, one showing the route TG took?

Thanks!

 

[otto]

otto, will you have time for one of your wonderful maps, one showing the route TG took?

Thanks!

I'll give it a shot, but I'm not 100% clear on the route ... got it, except for the depot. Any idea where that is?

 

[threecrazykids]

I'll give it a shot, but I'm not 100% clear on the route.

I believe on a prior page he stated the route he took...maybe wait until verified to create it though so we're sure to get it right.

 

[Marilynilpa]

I believe on a prior page he stated the route he took...maybe wait until verified to create it though so we're sure to get it right.

He said east on Gilbert to trail then north to Laff then to McCoy then to Gilbert across the dike to the trail back to the depot.

ETA: As usual, otto is waaay ahead of me.

 

[Considering]

I'll give it a shot, but I'm not 100% clear on the route ... got it, except for the depot. Any idea where that is?

The depot is in Gilbertville.


Address: 6801 E Washburn Rd

 

[GrainneDhu]

My own :twocents:

witness TG is sincere in what he thinks he saw and there is nothing nefarious in that situation.

I agree.

I think TG really believes in what he reported. I'm just not 100% convinced that it was an accurate sighting but I am convinced he is not lying.

There's all sorts of research that shows that eyewitnesses can be wrong in many different ways but not realise they were wrong.

I cringe at some of the posts made here about TG and I can only imagine how he is being treated on sites with less stringent modification.

 

[Considering]

:waiting: For your viewing pleasure while you wait...

Gilbertville Depot - YouTube

 

[24Roses]

I agree.

I think TG really believes in what he reported. I'm just not 100% convinced that it was an accurate sighting but I am convinced he is not lying.

There's all sorts of research that shows that eyewitnesses can be wrong in many different ways but not realise they were wrong.

I cringe at some of the posts made here about TG and I can only imagine how he is being treated on sites with less stringent modification.

I'm not sure if you've been here earlier today, but <modsnip> is now posting on here. I just wanted to make sure you knew. I think he is waiting to be verified before he says too much. He's been logged off for awhile now.

 

[GrainneDhu]

How is it a private drive if there are other homes that live on it and share in the expenses?

And does it matter if it's private? Does that mean no one is allowed to drive down the road without permission of ALL of the homeowners on this "private" drive?

Not being snarky...just wondering how Cinder could have even gotten to the road if it was private.

Usually "private drive" means "it looks like a street but it doesn't go anywhere and it is maintained privately." So a private drive can have a whole bunch of homes off it. There's a whole development of something like 150 houses outside of Iowa City that are all on the same private drive.

 

[GrainneDhu]

I'm not sure if you've been here earlier today, but <modsnip> is now posting on here. I just wanted to make sure you knew. I think he is waiting to be verified before he says too much. He's been logged off for awhile now.

Yeah, I posted that before I'd read on and realised he has joined WS.

Which is fine with me; I've never written anything on the internet that I'd be embarrassed to say directly to someone's face.

 

[Marilynilpa]

I was starting to get very annoyed. It was not the first time he has been focused on.

The only difference between Mr G and any other witnesses (there are probably more) is we know Mr G's name, and somehow that made him a suspect to some.

Not quite sure how that logic works...but now he's (hopefully) here with us, it will stop and we will get work with some first hand facts!!!! not facebook carp.

From what I've gathered, most of us don't believe TG is responsible in any way for what happened to Lyric and Elizabeth.

I agree that he has been the subject of lots of discussion, but most of that discussion has dealt with the timing of his sighting and whether or not the bikes he saw were Lyric and Lizzie's bikes. While he may be offended at those of us who have questioned his recollection, he shouldn't assume that we are all thinking he did anything to Lyric and Lizzie.

I hope he can provide enough information to help me work out a timeline that makes sense.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Here is a Case Archive for the girls' case.

Figured I'd post it again since there are many guests who may not have seen this. The case archive is a safe site. Actually it is a photobucket, and I post articles, videos, and pictures from Day 1 in the case, and update as there is news.

I'm talking "news" as in "not crap people say about someone".

I get info from MSM (and social media and I filter as I see fit), and I also might post what people send me. In this case I have refused to post the facebook pics taken from the family fb pages before the murders.

If you have something you'd like posted, my email is in my siggy.

Here's the Case Archive:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...izabeth Collins - Lyric Cook-Morrissey -IA-/


ETA: sorry... my email is not in my siggy... it is aamandareckonwith@gmail.com

 

[carbuff]

From what I've gathered, most of us don't believe TG is responsible in any way for what happened to Lyric and Elizabeth.

I agree that he has been the subject of lots of discussion, but most of that discussion has dealt with the timing of his sighting and whether or not the bikes he saw were Lyric and Lizzie's bikes. While he may be offended at those of us who have questioned his recollection, he shouldn't assume that we are all thinking he did anything to Lyric and Lizzie.

I hope he can provide enough information to help me work out a timeline that makes sense.

I think some people -- and this is a generalization, not pointing at anybody -- don't realize how they sound in written form. Some things that would sound perfectly innocuous in a coffee shop conversation come across as confrontational or accusatory when they're disconnected from expressions, tone of voice, and all the other nuances of face to face conversation. And instead of a conversation, all of a sudden there's anger, suspicion, and accusation.

 

[Confusion]

I think some people -- and this is a generalization, not pointing at anybody -- don't realize how they sound in written form. Some things that would sound perfectly innocuous in a coffee shop conversation come across as confrontational or accusatory when they're disconnected from expressions, tone of voice, and all the other nuances of face to face conversation. And instead of a conversation, all of a sudden there's anger, suspicion, and accusation.

I'm beginning to suspect that I may be one of those people. :blushing:

 

[carbuff]

I'm beginning to suspect that I may be one of those people. :blushing:

Well, we all do it once in a while. Goodness knows I do it often enough...

 

[otto]

From what I've gathered, most of us don't believe TG is responsible in any way for what happened to Lyric and Elizabeth.

I agree that he has been the subject of lots of discussion, but most of that discussion has dealt with the timing of his sighting and whether or not the bikes he saw were Lyric and Lizzie's bikes. While he may be offended at those of us who have questioned his recollection, he shouldn't assume that we are all thinking he did anything to Lyric and Lizzie.

I hope he can provide enough information to help me work out a timeline that makes sense.

It looks like the children were cycling in the same areas at approximately the same times.

 

[JaimeInLA]

In case Mr. G comes back after my bedtime, I will leave my question here:

There was confusion as to whether he stopped at Casey's on River Forest Rd. I think this was even reported in the Courier. But I also heard it was the bathroom in the park. So, Mr. G., if you could please tell us where your bathroom stop was, I would very much appreciate it.

(Many of us wonder why the police have never included your sighting of the bikes in their official timeline. I wondered whether the man they wanted to speak to who had stopped at that Casey's could verify your stop there, and if they were actually trying to verify your timeline. Not because they suspect you of anything at all, but just so they could include your bike sighting in the official timeline.).

Thanks!!