IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #25

[iamnotagolem]

ullhair: :sigh: :treadmill: :needdrink:

 

[Marilynilpa]

ullhair: :sigh: :treadmill: :needdrink:

Ditto.

 

[NWLady]

He just got out of prison THIS WEEK!!! Yeah that was a good idea! Letting him out, I mean.

Our local news said he was just released January of this year from prison in Wisconsin. The body they found is his mother's but they have not yet released any further details.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Our local news said he was just released January of this year from prison in Wisconsin. The body they found is his mother's but they have not yet released any further details.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/iowa-convict-accused-kidnap-attempt-18135031#.UOe7I288CSo

^^^^ Here's the story.

ETA: No connection to this case, from what I can tell.

 

[Squeeze]

M. MORRISSEY: Yes. A week before this, Lyric and her other cousin, Tammy`s daughter, K (ph), who were in Green Briar, which is another division of Waterloo, and they went walking to the park. They were gone for an extended amount of time. We went looking for them at the park, and they weren`t there. So we called the police. They -- right when I called the police they came walking up to the house.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1207/17/ijvm.01.html


I am pretty sure that this http://goo.gl/maps/mVaRh is the Greenbrier neighborhood

Yes, that's where Aunt Tammy lives.

 

[carbuff]

But why did they choose that day, of all others, to make the Lake their destination?

Whether they asked for directions or not, their bikes were there so I imagine they were too, or at least very close by.

Why choose that particular day to break the rules?

Asking for directions implies that they'd never been there before...under their own steam, anyway.

:cow:

It could have been more or less random choice on their part -- bored and where else do you go in a town that small? and thinking they could be back in time -- and bad luck that there happened to be a child killer lurking by the lake that day. If you read accounts from that kind of killer, they often describe waiting in areas where they know there are children, just waiting for somebody to come along.

Do I think that's likely? Like every other theory, I can't see any way to rule it out based on the information we have.

 

[NWLady]

I always suspected someone possibly overheard something said or discussed that they were not supposed to hear or they heard something that was interpreted the wrong way and it was reported to LE. Thinking it may have been recorded.
NOT accusing Misty or Wylma...just maybe a comment they made about someone else or something relative to their disappearance in someone else's opinion.
JMO

More than likely related to comment/statement about "coercion".
One definition of coercion - use of force or intimidation to obtain compliance.

 

[iamnotagolem]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/iowa-convict-accused-kidnap-attempt-18135031#.UOe7I288CSo

^^^^ Here's the story.

ETA: No connection to this case, from what I can tell.

Thanks for the link, I was not sure who "he" was. In the article it said Authorities declined to say if they suspected foul play in the Death of his mother, who was 45. That makes me think that saying must be a typical technicality. Which answers my question I had earlier about lyric and Elizabeth's case.

Eta His alibi for the when the girls went missing seems pretty good.

 

[Squeeze]

Our local news said he was just released January of this year from prison in Wisconsin. The body they found is his mother's but they have not yet released any further details.

Yep, that would make it this week. I just heard it was his mother. How creepy is this story?

He was released Tuesday.

 

[georger]

Yes there is a link her and her partner tried to abduct a boy from Cedar Falls the father was with the boy and the woman went back into the vechicle Some where in La she is in Jail . back a few posts they gave a web connection regarding her . She graps kids and sells them to perps that have sex with them and nmaybe when there done they dump the kisds off in the state they are from the perps she was living with at the time of arrest were using these poor inocent angels in a sex inviorment .Pat

Is this what the FBI person was referring to as "out of State ?

 

[superbee]

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We have many nesting around us here in June. Just around freezing these days, saw a magnificent bald eagle yesterday sitting at the top of the old hanging tree along the highway to town.

 

[georger]

I've read every post on this thread, I have seen nothing like that. Someone asked about releasing the names of the 245 arrestees from Operation Sunflower. JamieinLA posted a link stating that they are releasing the names in the local area for the arrests. The woman with the tattoo was local to her area.

After she posted the link to the news article in her area someone else mentioned that there was an alleged abduction attempt in IA this past summer and wondered if there was a connection. The two people who allegedly tried to kidnap the little boy were never found.

The lady in the article, that has now been arrested, that Jamie posted was seen in a child *advertiser censored* picture from 11 years ago in the LA, California area.

I've read the news articles about the lady and have seen no connection to iowa. But I may have missed something.

Yours above is my understanding as well (said to clarify). However, it
does make me wonder about "out of State connection", the term used
early by the FBI. Were they checking the nationmal data bases on
abductions thinking there might be a connection to Evansdale via I380
etc, or something else ? The FBI's statement "out of State" has never
been clarified or used again ... that I know of.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Yours above is my understanding as well (said to clarify). However, it
does make me wonder about "out of State connection", the term used
early by the FBI. Were they checking the nationmal data bases on
abductions thinking there might be a connection to Evansdale via I380
etc, or something else ? The FBI's statement "out of State" has never
been clarified or used again ... that I know of.

Do you have a link to the article where LE said that? I'd like to read it and check out the date.

 

[Squeeze]

Besides which, if the person who took out the restraining order agrees to or invites contact by the person served by the restraining order, it is invalidated in Iowa. No one will get arrested for violating a restraining order if both parties agree to or invite contact.

I'm 99% sure that's not true. That would invite intimidation, coersion and witness tampering. The restraining order is granted by the court to protect the victim. There are arrests all the time in the police log of people who have violated no contact orders against each other and are both arrested.

http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/ha...cle_2f49b638-0fb9-11e2-bdd7-001a4bcf887a.html

But I'm sure that in Dan and Mistys extenuating circumstances, they made an exception.

 

[Tucarra]

Welcome.

I've been there since July.

ullhair:

Sapphire, gotta say your posts are insightful...candid, to say the least, and just generally crack me up

 

[georger]

I disagree you need to read her full story and the tatoo's the boy in cedar falls saw on her wrist .

We need a link to information, which connects these two events to the
same woman ........... do the tatoos match? wrist tatoo on one, some
tatoo on some part of anatomy on other? ........ otherwise this is all
guessing.

Some article/interview with boy at Cedar Rapids who saw and describes the tatoo ... with photo of wrist tatoo of California woman?

 

[NWLady]

Besides which, if the person who took out the restraining order agrees to or invites contact by the person served by the restraining order, it is invalidated in Iowa. No one will get arrested for violating a restraining order if both parties agree to or invite contact.

I have a family member (female) who was assaulted by her husband. She immediately had a no contact order (restraining order) placed against him. To make a long story short – he was charged with domestic assault. They seeked counseling to try and work thru their apparent issues; however, they had to have their attorneys request from the Judge clearance just so that they could attend counseling sessions together, because the Judge, at his discretion, (at the time the husband was found guilty of domestic assault) had extended the no contact order/restraining order for 5 years and no matter what her or her husband requested in regards to no contact order being dismissed, it was not allowed until Judge approved it , and he made it clear in the courtroom at the time the husband was found guilty that if they were seen in contact with each other that they would BOTH be in violation of the no contact order. (After 2 years and them both going to counseling, batterer's classes, etc, etc. the Judge then did finally release the no contact order).

 

[Mjskit]

It could have been more or less random choice on their part -- bored and where else do you go in a town that small? and thinking they could be back in time -- and bad luck that there happened to be a child killer lurking by the lake that day. If you read accounts from that kind of killer, they often describe waiting in areas where they know there are children, just waiting for somebody to come along.

Do I think that's likely? Like every other theory, I can't see any way to rule it out based on the information we have.

BBM Then the perp should have been hanging out at one of the other parks. It has been said that Myers Lake doesn't get a lot of visitors.

 

[georger]

You're right, it's Cedar Rapids. Thanks!

Yes! CR not Cedar Falls, Cape Town, or Katmandu !

 

[Marilynilpa]

Yes! CR not Cedar Falls, Cape Town, or Katmandu !

Are you sure it isn't Katmandu?:waitasec: