IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #26

[bessie]

In Memory of Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook​

"Our hearts and prayers go out to the families and friends of those precious little girls. The Black Hawk County Sheriff's Office pledges vigilance in our pursuit of those responsible and will extend every resource to concluding this case so that justice may prevail."
-Black Hawk County Sheriff Tony Thompson

Posted by the Black Hawk County Sheriff's Office - December 10, 2012

http://www.bhcso.org/

http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/ev...cle_18411a90-cd32-11e1-a656-0019bb2963f4.html

http://www.kwwl.com/story/19023342/evansdale-police-searching-for-two-missing-girls



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Media/Timeline thread: IA IA-Elizabeth Collins, 8,&Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 *Media/Maps/TmLne* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


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http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...case/-/9357080/16505396/-/th3cnp/-/index.html


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[imamaze]

Please continue here...

 

[SierraShelby]

when i rode around the bikes cant remember if they were a little east or west

 

[MNDad]

I think I asked before but don't remember seeing a response. If I missed it, I apologize for asking again. Could you tell by the way the bikes were dropped which way they most likely were riding prior to dropping them? Were the front tires pointing more east or west bound?

north or south

I take that to mean that they were truly perpendicular to the trail pointing to the shoulders of the trail. But were they slightly skewed west or east? I am asking because the girls route has never been determined and I am trying to figure out if they most likely entered the trail from the east end or west end.

I know if a kid jumps off a bike while it is still somewhat in motion and drop it as they come to a stop, they tend to still be facing in the general direction that they were headed and not 90 degrees to the side. If you were to guess, which way do you think the bikes were headed on the trail?

If they were staged they'd be pointing in exactly the way the perp wanted them to be pointing in. He's a planner.

Which is another reason I am trying to get a better picture of how the bikes were seen. I am not ruling out staging of the bikes, but getting a visual picture of how they were laying may aid in both determining which way the girls were riding (if they road them there) or which way the perp came from (if they were staged). I understand that if he/she/they are planners then it may not indicate that at all and the perp(s) could have come from the east and pointed them west, but I would still like to be provided a visual from the person that was there and saw them.

Brought this conversation forward in hopes of still getting a better visual of the directions the bikes may have been traveling the last time they were in motion.

 

[MNDad]

Brought this conversation forward in hopes of still getting a better visual of the directions the bikes may have been traveling the last time they were in motion.

I see this was answered while I was trying to figure out how to bring conversations from the previous thread forward. Thanks for the response SierraShelby.

 

[Arod]

If it is indeed two perps I strongly feel one of them will crack

 

[SapphireSteel]

Maybe one already has...

 

[chelsea6]

SapphireSteele... I agree these locals are probably calling the tip line with all kinds of crazy things. I was really believing it because I've heard it so often from them.

 

[carbuff]

Maybe one already has...

I was gonna say the same thing.

 

[SapphireSteel]

*sigh*

So many questions, so few answers.

I'm very alert to the two folks SS saw fishing though.

This is the first I've heard of them, apart from Tammy's "fisher boy" but that was much later, nearly 3pm.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Can anyone link any cases where a reward actually was given out to someone?

 

[SapphireSteel]

The reward is usually only released on successful prosectution.

Not sure about this case though.

 

[otto]

Did we come to any sort of conclusion about whether the use of the word "wrestle" means that Lyric is a competitive wrestler?

 

[SapphireSteel]

Did we come to any sort of conclusion about whether the use of the word "wrestle" means that Lyric is a competitive wrestler?

I think we came to the conclusion that we didn't come to a conclusion.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Can anyone link any cases where a reward actually was given out to someone?

It's probably like winning the lottery, you have the option to remain anonymous?

I dunno, claiming rewards always seems a bit like the crop circles to me - it obviously happens, but no one ever sees it.

 

[hollyblue]

Can anyone link any cases where a reward actually was given out to someone?

Not to sure it would be publicized. Just an announcement that it had been dispersed. Would you want your name out there and "some" people knowing you tipped LE off? Especially in a case like this? I know in Linda Reed's case, the woman to receive it come out because she was having a hard time collecting it.....and the amt was much lower than expected. TES put up monies towards it, but when Linda became wanted for the suspicion of embezzlement, TES cancelled their reward. Her boss put money up, but something was hinky with it also.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Can anyone link any cases where a reward actually was given out to someone?

In the Samantha Runnion case, the reward was split between her best friend who witnessed the abduction and the ex-girlfriend of Samantha's killer who called LE.

 

[tlcya]

alright, just subscribed to this newest thread,now going back to review what I missed while gone sick in the last thread.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Not to sure it would be publicized. Just an announcement that it had been dispersed. Would you want your name out there and "some" people knowing you tipped LE off? Especially in a case like this? I know in Linda Reed's case, the woman to receive it come out because she was having a hard time collecting it.....and the amt was much lower than expected. TES put up monies towards it, but when Linda became wanted for the suspicion of embezzlement, TES cancelled their reward. Her boss put money up, but something was hinky with it also.

I assumed that the recipient wouldn't be announced. It would be done discreetly and quietly. What my question was, is how often in a case like this, is that actually done? I ask because in every case that I've followed that has had a huge reward people repeatedly say that the huge reward will loosen lips, yet I havent seen that to be the case. But it isn't like I follow every single case, I was inquiring about cases where it did indeed happen.

 

[Jules71]

Hey everyone! I haven't been around a lot lately but still think about the girls all the time. I see we have a new and valuable local member here now - welcome SierraShelby! It looks like I may have missed some things - which direction were the bikes heading and is the time TG saw them still 12:20? Thanks!

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