IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #37

[SharonNeedles]

I think that initially LE questioned DJ and he told them his story on the Snapchat message and that he opened it “around 10 pm” and initial LE doesn’t understand how Snapchat works and assumed Mollie sent it just before 10, which would be around 9:45. I think it was just some info to get the ball rolling in the investigation.

I really got the impression that the 9:45 question came around later. Not even sure that question was in reference to the snap. I read that question as having reason to believe she might have been in a house at 9:45 - and with what we know now, that wouldn’t be DJ’s house.

 

[Alleykins]

What does that mean? Why is outrageous?

I agree. Crimes of passion escalate that fast. Not saying at all that's what happened here, but it would be a fitting answer the question “Who escalates to abduction, kidnapping and homicide that fast?” because it has and does happen.

 

[Lovecats]

Authorities have not revealed when, exactly, Tibbetts was killed.

Mortvedt tells PEOPLE that he can’t discuss whether or not she was held for any period of time after being taken.

Cops Wonder: If Mollie Tibbetts' Accused Killer Has No Record — Who Jumps to Murder That Fast?

The possibility of her being held for a period of time after she was taken would make this so much more horrible. She could have been held for days or more, who knows! Hopefully it all happened quickly and she wasn’t aware of most of it.

 

[Gardenista]

What does that mean? Why is outrageous?

See Chris Watts as an example

 

[SheriBerry]

They don't know what time she sent the snapchat message do they? They just know that DJ didn't open it until 10ish

 

[thecatmeows]

I've been laying low, staying quiet since the news of Mollie's body being located and CR's arrest. I had to leave the Mollie groups on FB I was following, because the discussions were upsetting. I don't like the political turn this case has taken, and people using Mollie's death to "prove their point." The focus should always be on Mollie, and her memory. I know there has been discussion of what will happen to the reward money; I hope it will go toward a scholarship fund for other aspiring "Mollies". My heart breaks for her family. </3 She was so close all this time. It makes me sad and sick. I didn't know her, but like many of you, I felt like I got to know her this last month. She reminds me so much of myself at her age.

I've been jumpy when out and about since the news came out. Some guys at the park asked me to come over and "help" them, and I pretended like I didn't hear them - I couldn't imagine them having good intentions. I don't carry pepper spray with me because I'm afraid I would use it too often on the wrong person (of course, better safe than sorry). I definitely always carry my phone on me and will not hesitate to dial 9-1-1 if someone is looking suspicious. I hate this world we live in, but I truly don't think the world is more unsafe now than it was 100 years ago. I think we're just more aware of the violence because of the internet and the way media reports now. Murderers have always existed.

I don't want to live my life in fear. I don't want to hold back on going on a run because I'm afraid I'll get attacked. I shouldn't have to live my life in fear.

 

[The Farm]

I really got the impression that the 9:45 question came around later. Not even sure that question was in reference to the snap. I read that question as having reason to believe she might have been in a house at 9:45 - and with what we know now, that wouldn’t be DJ’s house.

I have brain overload but didn't her phone's last ping happen at 8.28pm?

 

[Alleykins]

Have they established where the crime scene is? I'm not talking about where she was found, because she was put there and it doesn't sound like she was killed where she was found. Do they know where she was killed?

 

[ACG2x]

I agree. Crimes of passion escalate that fast. Not saying at all that's what happened here, but it would be a fitting answer the question “Who escalates to abduction, kidnapping and homicide that fast?” because it has and does happen.

Yeah I don't understand all of the confusion around how CR just "all of a sudden did it". This happens way more often than people realize. Just because someone doesn't have a criminal record doesn't mean they aren't a ticking time bomb. The combination of Mollie refusing his advances and very rightfully threatening to call the police was the trigger that made the bomb explode.

Also, in a case like this does motive really matter? He brutally murdered an innocent young woman who was doing nothing more than exercising in her hometown. That atrocity should circumvent any "reasons". He did it and should thus pay the price - end of story. I personally don't give a damn why he snapped, the point is he did.

 

[kpm]

The possibility of her being held for a period of time after she was taken would make this so much more horrible. She could have been held for days or more, who knows! Hopefully it all happened quickly and she wasn’t aware of most of it.

I hope it was quick but we may find differently, the statement from LE leads me to believe they think is a possibility.

 

[Kaylo0Ren]

How does someone with no previous record commit a crime so violent? No previous instances of him being violent or aggressive - family members have spoken up for him also stating no change in his behavior as well leading up to his arrest.

 

[NewYork625]

So a couple things I’m having problems with... if Mollie sent DJ a “goodnight” snap as I’m sure she did, she did that before she left for her run? Seems awfully early for a girl that stays up pretty late... And I can’t help but think the question about whether Mollie was in a house at 9:45 really happened. Is there reason to believe Mollie was still alive that long after she was abducted?

She was sending him lots of snaps to get him to the top of her friends list. He couldn’t remember what the banner said. She likely would have sent him other snaps during the evening if she could have.

 

[SharonNeedles]

I have brain overload but didn't her phone's last ping happen at 8.28pm?

I don’t think we really know anything about pings. We’ve assumed a lot, but I don’t think LE has ever clearly stated when and where her phone pinged.

 

[Gardenista]

How does someone with no previous record commit a crime so violent? No previous instances of him being violent or aggressive - family members have spoken up for him also stating no change in his behavior as well leading up to his arrest.

Very common. Peruse this forum for endless examples.

 

[The Farm]

How does someone with no previous record commit a crime so violent? No previous instances of him being violent or aggressive - family members have spoken up for him also stating no change in his behavior as well leading up to his arrest.

They are either lying or he kept it from them.

 

[SharonNeedles]

She was sending him lots of snaps to get him to the top of her friends list. He couldn’t remember what the banner said. She likely would have sent him other snaps during the evening if she could have.

Understood - but it makes no sense she’d say “goodnight” around 7ish.

 

[CheetosDust]

I really got the impression that the 9:45 question came around later. Not even sure that question was in reference to the snap. I read that question as having reason to believe she might have been in a house at 9:45 - and with what we know now, that wouldn’t be DJ’s house.

I thought it was kind of early on, but now you’re making me question that. I didn’t join this thread until beginning of August, but read as much of the first threads as I could. Anyways, if the snap *was* sent from somewhere else, not sure where that would be. I don’t think she went with CR willingly and he wouldn’t have let her keep her cellphone either. Interesting thoughts though.

 

[Alleykins]

Yeah I don't understand all of the confusion around how CR just "all of a sudden did it". This happens way more often than people realize. Just because someone doesn't have a criminal record doesn't mean they aren't a ticking time bomb. The combination of Mollie refusing his advances and very rightfully threatening to call the police was the trigger that made the bomb explode.

Also, in a case like this does motive really matter? He brutally murdered an innocent young woman who was doing nothing more than exercising in her hometown. That atrocity should circumvent any "reasons". He did it and should thus pay the price - end of story. I personally don't give a damn why he snapped, the point is he did.

I agree.

 

[Alleykins]

I get the feeling there may be so much more to this case than we may ever know.

 

[CheetosDust]

Understood - but it makes no sense she’d say “goodnight” around 7ish.

If she was headed out for a run followed by dinner and possibly to stay overnight at her mom’s it might.