IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #43

[rebel123]

You hit on a great point

One thing that screws cadaver dogs up is dead pigs, they will hit on those as human but not other dead animals.

I was reading today they have hit on bodies 40 feet under water or buried in the ground

Just amazing animals.

O/T - 4 Cadaver dogs were taken to try to locate the remains of Amelia Earhart in a remote island in the Phoenix Islands. She went missing with her co-pilot in July 1937.

 

[Tricia]

Hi Everyone,

Mollie's thread is closed for the night.

See you in the morning.
Tricia

 

[Harmony 2]

Good morning! Mollie's thread is open for posting.

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[kpm]

Good morning!

 

[kpm]

That is actually a very interesting article you attached. It reminded me of some various curious LE activities at WC’s property/House.

Paraphrasing, it says that LE were there for 2 hours, took photos of interior of home, and searched garage. Maybe it has been debunked in earlier threads, but I question whether they had evidence (Snapchat photo of Mollie in a house? or something else?) that Mollie could have been held in a house/garage and whether that could still apply with what we know now, with CR?

Obviously, timeline on arrest warrant points to simplest solution of everything happening in the 45 minutes, but that piece about taking pictures at WC’s, combined with mom’s statement of mollie being in a house at 9:45and then the Snapchat just had me thinking.

I’ve been waiting for the thread to open!


We know from DJ that they were texting at 7:00 that evening

We know she and her mom were texting around 7:30 that evening

When did she take the Snapchat pic and send it, right after they were texting?

Wouldn’t he notice it if they were just texting?

The time frame from LE is 7:45-8:28

So after texting she most likely took off running, so that leaves a small window that she may have sent the SC

 

[The Farm]

Good Morning.

What I never got was why is no one able to know where the SC was taken? Inside, outside? If I remember correctly it looked like there was a background of inside someplace?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks, and then it says rates are not calculated when the population is under 100,000, so it's confusing. They must have another method for smaller counties? Also I know in many places there are alot of domestic abuse related charges, that you don't normally hear about.

Morning Betsy. They do have another formula. That is why every county no matter how small or large are rated accordingly. If these violent crime rates for this particular county were incorrect the county officials would be screaming...rightly so.

Many who are wanting to purchase farms...purchase large acreage for hunting and any businesses looks at these statistics before deciding whether to purchase or not in any particular county.

My own county is a perfect example. We have approximately a population of 75K but due to having a much lower violent crime rate consistently every year we are one of the fastest growing ..sought after counties in our state. Not only for those wanting to move here to live but large companies and small businesses are deciding to come here at a rapid pace. We also gave a great public school system as well.

The overall national data would give imperfect flawed data if they did not use a formula that includes all counties.

Imo they have perfected a formula so that all counties under 100,000 in the nation are also included and rated..as it should be. Citizens in every county should be able to find the violent crime rate where they reside or are thinking they may want to move there.

Thank goodness it's easier than ever before to find this info for everyone.

Imo

 

[rebel123]

kpm

'I’ve been waiting for the thread to open!'
Me too; Admin waits for me to go though all the overnight posts; as I'm about to respond, you guessed they close the thread. Such is life.

 

[rebel123]

I’ve been waiting for the thread to open!


We know from DJ that they were texting at 7:00 that evening

We know she and her mom were texting around 7:30 that evening

When did she take the Snapchat pic and send it, right after they were texting?

Wouldn’t he notice it if they were just texting?

The time frame from LE is 7:45-8:28

So after texting she most likely took off running, so that leaves a small window that she may have sent the SC

I don't know how Snap Chat' works; but maybe it was taken earlier in the day; stored to send later. Especially if it had text or any graphics on it that required sometime. Mollie seems like someone who would send meaningful things; not ad-hoc things.

 

[kpm]

I don't know how Snap Chat' works; but maybe it was taken earlier in the day; stored to send later. Especially if it had text or any graphics on it that required sometime. Mollie seems like someone who would send meaningful things; not ad-hoc things.

I don’t know how it works either

My inclination is that after texting she probably sent a cute pic saying off to run now

It will be very interesting to find out when it was sent, LE probably knows by now

They had a time frame of 5-10 that day

 

[rebel123]

I don’t know how it works either

My inclination is that after texting she probably sent a cute pic saying off to run now

It will be very interesting to find out when it was sent, LE probably knows by now

They had a time frame of 5-10 that day

That sounds possible.

 

[Anthony D]

I don’t know how it works either

My inclination is that after texting she probably sent a cute pic saying off to run now

It will be very interesting to find out when it was sent, LE probably knows by now

They had a time frame of 5-10 that day

I've had snapchat notifications take hours to show up. What makes no sense though is that it says in the top corner ___ hours ago. So i dunno why they are unable to get the exact time it was sent.

 

[rebel123]

I've had snapchat notifications take hours to show up. What makes no sense though is that it says in the top corner ___ hours ago. So i dunno why they are unable to get the exact time it was sent.

Probably a network issue; there's only so much capacity. They probably do have the information - providing various companies have been co-operating.

 

[kpm]

I've had snapchat notifications take hours to show up. What makes no sense though is that it says in the top corner ___ hours ago. So i dunno why they are unable to get the exact time it was sent.

The time it was sent is important to me, although I think it was send prior to her jog, you never know

 

[The Farm]

I know nothing about Snapchat at all. My sister-in-law sent me a text last night at 6:45pm,,,,I did not get it until 8:30pm.

 

[MsBetsy]

Crime rates.... I would believe they seem very high. When every relative neighbour and townie was being sleuthed, it seemed like every single person had a violent or sex offender record. Almost all of people who being suspected did except her family. It was shockingly how many violent offenders there are in Brooklyn.

Someone mentioned that dating for a year only was a bad sign for CRs life skills etc (sorry vague description of the post).... I’m sorry that’s just ridiculous.

I only know a handful of people that age in high school that dated people seriously. Most of my friends didn’t have serious relationships until mid 20s and they are all are doing just fine lol

I'm not quite sure which post you are referring to when you describe it as "ridiculous ", but I'm assuming it was mine since I'm the only one who mentioned the length of his relationship. I would like to clarify. I never said this meant he must have poor " life skills", but since you brought it up, I actually think his life skills are quite impressive. He moved here as a teenager, found a job and successfully obtained the necessary paperwork to fool people and get away for years under this cover as a citizen. I'm sure he picked up plenty of skills along the way. What I did say was that he may have a problem forming and holding a relationship. As I mentioned in the post, he was described as staring at and saying nothing to a girl who said he later messaged her on Facebook in order to speak to her. I'm not sure that just staring and saying nothing is an effective way to get a date. You mentioned high school dating, which I did not but I think it is perfectly normal not to date at all in high school. And yes, many people do not have a serious relationship until they are in their twenties, that is true. I simply said he MAY have trouble connecting to people. So please don't misinterpret and incorrectly change someone's post to have a different meaning, then call it ridiculous and laugh at what you think it suggests! If what you said in your post was true it would appear the poster is pretty narrow minded. Jmo

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Can't be, even the look of the eyes is different, imo. And the difference in shade of skin.

Perhaps much younger. I had same question. But eye spacing and nose are similar or the same. I’ll research today. If it is in fact him he has experienced something that has aged him and changed from a fresh look to a haggard State appearing older than 24.

It’s possible with drug use and burning candle at both ends or drug/alcohol abuse.
Financial pressure from family.

 

[kpm]

I know nothing about Snapchat at all. My sister-in-law sent me a text last night at 6:45pm,,,,I did not get it until 8:30pm.

That happens a lot when I get texts from different networks and android to iPhone texts

 

[MsBetsy]

Morning Betsy. They do have another formula. That is why every county no matter how small or large are rated accordingly. If these violent crime rates for this particular county were incorrect the county officials would be screaming...rightly so.

Many who are wanting to purchase farms...purchase large acreage for hunting and any businesses looks at these statistics before deciding whether to purchase or not in any particular county.

My own county is a perfect example. We have approximately a population of 75K but due to having a much lower violent crime rate consistently every year we are one of the fastest growing ..sought after counties in our state. Not only for those wanting to move here to live but large companies and small businesses are deciding to come here at a rapid pace. We also gave a great public school system as well.

The overall national data would give imperfect flawed data if they did not use a formula that includes all counties.

Imo they have perfected a formula so that all counties under 100,000 in the nation are also included and rated..as it should be. Citizens in every county should be able to find the violent crime rate where they reside or are thinking they may want to move there.

Thank goodness it's easier than ever before to find this info for everyone.

Imo

Thank you! Good to know.

 

[rebel123]

I've read that Snapchat messages can be recovered; providing that they had been saved by the person receiving them.