Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #45

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Honestly? I think the head trauma was caused at the initial scene, and the rest at the field. There is no way he could do it ALL there without risking someone driving by or seeing it and having her blood all over him; which would provide witnesses, if he had returned home immediately afterward... or gone anywhere.
 
Even in that quote, there's some doubt; did he run 'behind her or beside her'? Those are two different things; they pose different threats.

I took it to mean he was running beside her when she asked him to leave her alone, took out her phone and said she was calling police, then she went running ahead and he chased her. IMO that suggests she attempted to flee due to fear of him. If so, was his self -proclaimed anger over her threat to call LE or did he blow up because she shunned his advances and so she became something akin to hunted prey? Because if it’s true he admitted to chasing her, that’s a big mark toward murder, deliberate and intentional. He obviously didn’t block out that part.

What’s typed in the affidavit may only be a brief glimpse of his complete statement.
 
Followfacts, Missy Bevers died of "multiple puncture wounds found on her head and chest" that "are consistent with tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building.""

And the tool he was carrying was a hammer. Weird to have puncture wounds from a hammer.

Missy Bevers Died From Multiple Puncture Wounds: Police

Are puncture wounds sharp force injuries? Is a Hammer blunt force? Even if one end punctures ?
 
Followfacts, Missy Bevers died of "multiple puncture wounds found on her head and chest" that "are consistent with tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building.""

And the tool he was carrying was a hammer. Weird to have puncture wounds from a hammer.

Missy Bevers Died From Multiple Puncture Wounds: Police
Sharp force injuries could be caused by a lot of things other than a knife. Some less common might be a pen,a fork, radio antenna(?), broken glass, screwdriver, crowbar and various other tools. They really haven't told us anything about COD other than it wasn't a rope or gun that killed her, and a few other things, I guess. MOO
 
Followfacts, Missy Bevers died of "multiple puncture wounds found on her head and chest" that "are consistent with tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building.""

And the tool he was carrying was a hammer. Weird to have puncture wounds from a hammer.

Missy Bevers Died From Multiple Puncture Wounds: Police

In the non-MT case you describe, the killer likely used the claw side of a claw hammer. This would likely cause distinct double, beveled rectangular puncture wounds extending into the calvarium, puncturing the meninges and extending into the brain. Leaving a distinct, wide wound channel like a puncture, but also like a chopping would, but in an interrupted "dotted or dashed line" form, two dashes at a time. A true sharp force trauma injury that is a combination of a puncture and chopping injury.

Other speciality hammers (Like a Welder's chipping hammer or a geologist' s chipping hammer, both of which have a blade like end with no gap in the middle), would likely create a more classic chopping wound, but with a possible deep penetrating aspect like a wide broad puncture wound, depending on the force used.

The hammer side of a hammer would cause a flat round, blunt force possibly depressed injury to the skull and meninges. A rounded ball peen hammer will create a more rounded, pit like fracture, possibly driving bone shards into and through the meninges and into the substance of the brain. I feel that the ball peen hammer is the more deadly of the two.

JMMO
 
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A defendant is typically called upon to enter a plea at the arraignment, which is the person's first appearance in court. The defendant can choose from the plea of guilty, not guilty, not guilty by reason of insanity, and nolo contendere (nocontest).
I wonder if he will plea not guilty by reason of insanity or mental disturbance cause of black outs.
 
He likely used the claw side of a claw hammer. This would likely cause distinct double, beveled rectangular puncture wounds extending into the calvarium, puncturing the meninges and extending into the brain. Leaving a distinct, wide wound channel like a puncture, but also like a chopping would, but in an interrupted "dotted or dashed line" form, two dashes at a time. A true sharp force trauma injury that is a combination of a puncture and chopping injury.
Other speciality hammers (Like a Welder's chipping hammer or a geologist' s chipping hammer, both of which have a blade like end with no gap in the middle), would likely create a more classic chopping wound, but with a possible deep penetrating aspect like a wide broad puncture wound, depending on the force used.

The hammer side of a hammer would cause a flat round, blunt force possibly depressed injury to the skull and meninges. A rounded ball peen hammer will create a more rounded, pit like fracture, possibly driving bone shards into and through the meninges and into the substance of the brain. I feel that the ball peen hammer is the more deadly of the two.

JMMO

It was not a claw hammer, it was a pry bar.
 
Are puncture wounds sharp force injuries? Is a Hammer blunt force? Even if one end punctures ?

Yeah, you're right. Read my note above. CR could have used the claw end of a claw or roofing hammer, or a Welder's chipping hammer to the head and upper body. A true sharp force trauma combination wound with both penetrating and chopping characteristics, depending on the force used. With wounds to the head and upper body, this would explain the head bleeding that CR saw when he opened the trunk. Pulling her running top over her head would minimize blood on his clothes when carrying her body, as active bleeding stops once the heart stops beating.
 
A defendant is typically called upon to enter a plea at the arraignment, which is the person's first appearance in court. The defendant can choose from the plea of guilty, not guilty, not guilty by reason of insanity, and nolo contendere (nocontest).
I wonder if he will plea not guilty by reason of insanity or mental disturbance cause of black outs.
He could also plead guilty with mitigating circumstances. The circumstances he could use would be loss of control when he's upset to the point of blacking out, fear of being deported when his family is depending on him for support, not understanding the different cultures because of spending most time with people from his home country (whether true or not), and I'm sure a couple of good attorneys could come up with other/better ones. It wouldn't be a defense, but might persuade the judge to give him a lighter sentence. MOO
 
It was not a claw hammer, it was a pry bar.

If he hit her with the claw end of the hook, same wound as if with big, thick claw hammer, using downward, pulling strokes. Same difference, a funky sharp force penetrating/chopping wound.

Use the round end of the hook, and you have a broad groved blunt force wound channel.

Use the sharp flat pry bar end like a thrusting spear, another penetrating/chopping blunt force trauma wound, again same difference.
 
Sorry - don't know if this has been posted yet - I went to the last page...

Man charged with murder in Mollie Tibbetts case to be arraigned Wednesday

Published 5:24 PM EDT Sept 14, 2018

Cristhian Bahena Rivera will be arraigned Wednesday (9/19) in Poweshiek County District court in connection to the death of Mollie Tibbetts.
The arraignment will take place at 9:30 a.m. at the Poweshiek County
Courthouse in Montezuma, court documents show.
 

Wow, I keep thinking of Paul Drake, working for Perry Mason, driving down to Mexico, to find a runaway divorcee.....

If there is any hope of a diminished capacity defence, a PI going to Mexico would be key. This to find medical and school records, and witness accounts that relate a history of Intermittent Explosive Disorder with an inability to recall his actions while acting his rage out. Also finding witnesses who can support a pattern of behavior, both here and in Mexico, and be deposed and appear as witnesses. Also any germane U.S. medical records and corroborating witnesses.

Also, any evidence of childhood, adolescent gang or violence related trauma (even if just witnessed) that could support a PTSD narrative/diagnosis including "black/block" outs, memory loss or active fugue states.

Just as many have been saying on this thread for weeks!

Thanks Warwrick 7, great, informative read.
 
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Hey all. Long day not in a good way. Any new developments? I see the arraignment for 9/19. TIA.
 
Hey all. Long day not in a good way. Any new developments? I see the arraignment for 9/19. TIA.

Yeah, read the article in the 9/13/18 Des Moines Register about CR benefiting from a diminished capacity defence based on his "blocking out".

It reads exactly like the last 3 weeks of WS discussion on this thread, only with more verified experts!
 
Sorry - don't know if this has been posted yet - I went to the last page...

Man charged with murder in Mollie Tibbetts case to be arraigned Wednesday

Published 5:24 PM EDT Sept 14, 2018

Cristhian Bahena Rivera will be arraigned Wednesday (9/19) in Poweshiek County District court in connection to the death of Mollie Tibbetts.
The arraignment will take place at 9:30 a.m. at the Poweshiek County
Courthouse in Montezuma, court documents show.
Exactly what occurs at the arraignment?
 
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