ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 52

[Strong1]

I want to know if BK was still carrying the knife when we was approaching DM.

I would think he had to be considering it wasn't found at the scene.

 

[sds71]

@EmmaEpperly


Slight delay here for the hearing- should begin momentarily once everyone is seated. Members of the Goncalves family are in attendance in the courtroom.

 

[Ilex]

Do we think that BK saw doordash deliver to the house? I’ll have to pull up the affidavit to check his movement again. IF he saw the delivery, still decided to enter, that’s bold.

I wonder if he was already in the house when everyone got back home

 

[Fascinated1]

Im trying to get myself in DM’s head.
You are home earlier than your roommates after a night of drinking. You hear sounds, whispers, dog barking, the third time you open your door you see someone with their face covered, he just walks past you to leave… You are frightened by his presence but your immediate thought isn’t, he’s just killed my 4 roommates, your immediate thought is perhaps, college kids fooling around, partying etc. I mean it’s INSANE in hindsight but she didn’t say she saw him covered in blood and she didn’t see any bodies… i don’t know.

But xana was found outside her bedroom….and she was on the same floor. I know not to judge and I’m sure she was terrified and there is no written indication she saw xana.

 

[Zella]

She also may have been under the influence and not everything was quite registering and then passed out?! That's the only thing that would make sense to me.

I wonder if she was doubting her own perception of reality and wondered if it was a figment of her imagination or a dream. MOO

I wonder who received the door dash order? It sounds like X may have gone out to get the order, came back to her room and found E stabbed with BK in the room. BK told her "it's okay, I'm going to help you" and then killed her.

I don't think so. She got the order at 4 am and was still on TikTok as of 4:12 am. The dog barking and whimpering is heard 5 minutes later (4:17).

 

[PIUK]

It doesn’t add up with what we were told in the beginning. That the surviving room Mates slept through it (clearly at least one of them didn’t) and that the next day at 12pm they received a 911 call reporting a unconscious person.

Why wouldn’t she ring the police? I don’t understand it at all. Wouldn’t she call kaylee or maddie to tell them she’s just seen a random stranger in a mask in their house? What is going on

I wonder if that’s why they mention there being multiple interviews with the roommates and ‘originally stated’… MOO

 

[IceCreamSundae]

I'm guessing he'll claim the sheath had been stolen from him, or he lost it, prior to the killings. "The sheath may have been there, with my DNA still on it, but I was not there."

He’ll also have to explain away the car on video driving past the house numerous times that night, the cell phone pings, an eye witness who might remember his eyes and bushy eyebrows and testify that it was him, etc. etc. etc. He’s not getting off imo.

 

[TheGardener]

This kind of killing is more indicative of a spree killing than a serial killing. Interestingly this kind of explosive killing comes more toward the END of a killer's history. I'm sure this guy has left a trail of killings going back many years. This is just the beginning of this man's resume.

 

[Aquarian]

I have so many thoughts and questions

He saw the roommate and didn’t attack her??

So roommate DID hear noises - wow

Roommate didn’t call 911 for so long after this happened — curious about this (though no blaming of course— I’m sure she was terrified)

so KG was awake? Was X awake??

This is overwhelming. Didn’t expect this

Did he really see her you think? Or was in some kind of murder fog? Idk

 

[Elley Mae]

Left everything about Eathan out, was he the target?

 

[ilovewings]

But nothing to tell us "why."

I think we will learn more later: there may be no "why"-- this could have been random- or not-- this is just the beginning of the case - there is much to learn as time goes by----

 

[laust23]

I don't know, by the way it reads in the affidavit and BCK driving around that early morning, it kinda sounds like he was trolling the area for a place, ANY PLACE, to break into and commit murder. Maybe this is what LE meant by the house being targeted?

Or getting the courage up to go to 1122... Since his cellphone records indicate he had been there 12 other times previously....

 

[Tillyjames]

Did she just go back to bed? Unreal.

How could you sleep after that? Even being scared she could text someone or alert someone of danger

 

[TheBorez]

He might get offered a Chris Watts type deal. Plead guilty and get life w/o parole and forfeit your ability to ever appeal or go to trial and LE will seek death.

I don’t think they’ll allow a plea deal. This is too much evidence, the families, at least KG’s want the death penalty.

 

[LaineyJ]

It doesn’t say that DM identified him though, if LE showed her a pic. Unless I missed that? It does say he was wearing a mask.

 

[MntnHiker]

Wow I’m shook reading this.

I’m curious where he initially saw/became obsessed with someone in that house. I think now that LE saying this was targeted might be because they had the footage of his car driving by multiple times that morning, his phone near their house 12 times and from day one, had info from DM that he walked right past her and didn’t kill her!

While I am of course absolutely thrilled her life was saved, I am so confused as to why a murderer who just killed four people would leave a victim who witnessed them? This doesn’t make sense.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

But nothing to tell us "why."

Baffling.

His phone pinging in that location twelve times before the night of the murders makes me think he was fixated on one of the group but it still doesn’t explain the why.

 

[PIUK]

But xana was found outside her bedroom….and she was on the same floor. I know not to judge and I’m sure she was terrified and there is no written indication she saw xana.

I think that’s possibly poorly worded and means through the next door in the bedroom.

 

[Banff]

No can judge the house mate. It is well known the fight/flight/freeze response. By the time it sunk in she would have been terrified and likely panicked and froze. She will live with this for the rest of her life, she doesn't need criticising. It wasn't her fault.

Her experience is eerily reminiscent to one of the Ted Bundy survivors in the Chi Omega Tallahassee sorority house, Nita Neary, who likewise saw Bundy walk out of the house after the killings. The police sketch from her description looked a lot like Bundy and was used in evidence at this trial.

 

[justme11]

This is from page 5. Was this his shoe print? Does he own Vans? Did he not wear shoe covers?

EBM