ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 67

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Move on from the incel discussion folks. It is strictly speculation not based on any known fact and other members and guests don't come here to read the same discussion/debate over and over again.

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Luckily for us, Mike Baker/ NYTimes is providing this article as a freebie today.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615782930776981506
 
Just before the last thread closed, a poster mentioned that Walmart sells a black, Tyvek-type outfit, made by Dickies, which may explain the Walmart receipt and 1 Dickies tag, referenced in the above listed items removed from BK's apartment. I feel the need to follow-up on that comment.

Dickies does make a 1-piece coverall suit in black, and I believe that is sold at Walmart, but it is not like a Tyvek suit in any way. It is not tight-fitting and disposable, and does not cover the head at all. It is basically what one thinks of when you picture an auto mechanic, basically a one-piece, zip up jumpsuit. BK may well have worn something like this, to make himself less visible in the darkness, but it would have done nothing to prevent him from leaving forensic evidence all over the house. I almost hope that he was wearing something like that, as he may have been less likely to throw it away than if it had been a Tyvek suit. JMO
 
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I read the affidavit, and have been reading these threads (or rather, trying to keep up!).
Something that still isn't clear to me is what happened the next morning and who came to the house first? The reason I am asking is about the Van's like shoe print.
If nobody but LE came in to the house that morning, the bloody shoe print should be the killer's. If other people came in before LE then it would be a lot less useful.
I tried to search this site for this but maybe I am doing it wrong. There is so much to read in all these threads, sorry if my question has been answered before! If there's already somewhere that discussed this, a link would be appreciated!
 
Swansee said:
I read the affidavit, and have been reading these threads (or rather, trying to keep up!).
Something that still isn't clear to me is what happened the next morning and who came to the house first? The reason I am asking is about the Van's like shoe print.
If nobody but LE came in to the house that morning, the bloody shoe print should be the killer's. If other people came in before LE then it would be a lot less useful.
I tried to search this site for this but maybe I am doing it wrong. There is so much to read in all these threads, sorry if my question has been answered before! If there's already somewhere that discussed this, a link would be appreciated!
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In the search warrant #4 they were looking for shoes so I think they believe it was the killer's print. I wonder if they have size of said show print? JMO

 
SteveP said:
Just before the last thread closed, a poster mentioned that Walmart sells a Tyvek-type outfit made by Dickies, which may explain the Walmart receipt and 1 Dickies tag, referenced in the above listed items removed from BK's apartment. I feel the need to follow-up on that comment.

Dickies does make a 1-piece coverall suit in black, and I believe that is sold at Walmart, but it is not like a Tyvek suit in any way. It is not tight-fitting and disposable, and does not cover the head at all. It is basically what one thinks of when you picture an auto mechanic, basically a one-piece, zip up jumpsuit. BK may well have worn something like this, to make himself less visible in the darkness, but it would have done nothing to prevent him from leaving forensic evidence all over the house. I almost hope that he was wearing something like that, as he may have been less likely to throw it away than if it had been a Tyvek suit. JMO
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Dickies makes tops and bottoms and coveralls. Only one tag in the return service list so maybe a coverall? JMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/1615769677598445568
 
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